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This podcast episode is a preview of a podcast about Doctor Who. The hosts discuss their experiences with the show and their favorite doctors. They mention watching the premiere and planning to rewatch it. They also talk about their initial impressions of the show and how their feelings have changed over time. They mention specific episodes and characters they liked or didn't like. They also briefly mention other pop culture topics they enjoy discussing on their podcast. This is a podcast. I'm Mitch O'Regan and you've already heard Teresa Stoddard. I didn't know we were recording. Do you want to leave that in? Do we want to leave it in? I don't know. Do they want to see what crazy shenanigans we get up to? Hey. Life's short. Unless you're a time lord. Crazy shenanigans of all time and space. Obviously, I'd be the best companion. Except for I'm not really good at that whole running thing. So, clearly there's got to be some sort of time lord technology that could give me the equivalent of a Segway without having one. So I could just kind of zoom off. I think what they'll do is just plot. Because that is usually the number one way we figure out things. It's just like the magic of plot. Sure, she ran. Don't show it on screen, though. If you haven't figured it out by now, or from the title of the podcast, or if this is your first episode, welcome. We are a podcast, which is a passion project of both myself and Teresa on all of the pop culture that we like to consume. Like Hoobers. It's just like Hoobers. From television, to movies, to books. And this particular episode is kind of a special one for me because I would say of all things that I would be able to spend like a good hour and a half to two hours on, let's say, like maybe a podcast medium discussing, I would say this might be one of the ones I am most qualified for. Considering about all the hours I've spent watching, thinking about, creating in my head. Meeting Capaldi. Yeah, meeting three of the four, five modern doctors. Who have you met? I've met David Tennant. What? You've never known that? No, I would be name dropping Tennant all day. He's just such a beautiful person. Matt Smith. And also Capaldi. Matt Smith is clearly from House of Dragons. Check out our House of Dragons pod coming out sometime in 2024. Today. Did you see that tweet where Mr. Game of Thrones himself was like, why do you guys want it to come? You're going to cry. Yeah. Railroad. It's RR. I like putting random. I thought he was George Pirate Martin. R. Oh, no. The Pirate Planet, by the way, one of the few episodes of Doctor Who that still hasn't been uncovered. I know you're listening, Moppet, Russell T Davies at all. All right. So what if we got a call that was like, actually, we need you to help storyboard Doctor Who. There are many different Doctor Who podcasts out there. Okay, but you never know the reach we'll get. True. But yeah, there are a lot of good ones. Maybe I'll give him a shout at the end. But today we are going to be all things Doctor Who. You're going to actually get to enjoy us. Are we releasing both of them today or one of them today, one of them another day? Both of them today. Okay. So this is our preview podcast. So we will be talking about the premiere. We've actually already seen the premiere, but we're going to try to watch it again. Try to watch it again? We're going to watch it again because I want to watch it one more time. I've seen. Okay, so let's talk about our experience with Doctor Who. And I'll start with you for Who. Okay, so I had a friend who was really into Doctor Who. And I tried a few times, just couldn't really do it. I think it's back to, like, I was young, Chris Egleston wasn't. How young were you? I don't know, like. Do you remember what year this place is you went? Oh, it is pre-Chuck. Wow, okay. So someone tried to get you on early. Yeah, so I would say 2000. Okay, it was. So the new Who came out in 2005. Okay, so it was post-Joe. Okay. Pre-Chuck. Or maybe coinciding with the early days, which would make me 21. Wow, that is really young. So I was not a fully formed human yet. You do that at 24 to 25 years old. I'm 35, I don't know if I'm still a fully formed human. I hated Rose because society's like eight pretty girls. Egleston was just meh, who's this old man on the screen, not into it. And, like, I already knew by that time that David Tennant, Doctor Tennant, was a doctor. And I was like, where the fuck is he at? And, like, so I didn't quite understand the lore. I didn't know, like, quite how they would change over. I didn't know about regeneration. I saw a few. I was bored. I did see that Argue My Mummy, which is why it comes in at one of my choices today. That one caught my attention because, like, there was gas masks thrown at people's faces. That kind of causes you to pause. You're a big fan of Bonnie Hart. I wouldn't say a big fan, but it just fascinates me. So you're, or maybe not a big fan, but you're a fan. So I don't, like, love it in the way that some horror folks love it. I'd say it at least captures your interest. I think it's very much, like, that dark part of me that writes stuff like that is kind of, like, seeing that from somebody else. And also, like, when you think of Doctor Who, you think more science fiction than horror, I would say. And, you know, there are quite some scary monsters, but it still is that science fiction umbrella instead of, like, we're watching Silent Hill, the video game. Oh, okay. Let's do it to me. Let's do it to me. So do you remember, was Doctor Who on Netflix? Was it on BBC? It was Netflix. Okay. And I was just slogging through. It had taken me a couple times, but, like, that time I was finally, like, I'm going to do it. Like, I'm going to do it. I need to be there for the memes. That was when memes were starting to get popular. Well, Tumblr culture, too. I didn't, like, actively participate in Tumblr, but I had friends who did. I did the same thing, but, like... I was more, like, watching things and, like, seeing what people make on DeviantArt and stuff like that. Oh, okay. And I was also really enjoying FML and... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. What was the other one? Text Them Last Night. Yeah, and there was, like, another one, I think. Well, it wasn't, like, Fuck My Life, but, God, those were great. This is, like, probably 2008 to 2012, Lance, the four-year stretch where, like, you stumbled upon. It was, yeah. It was, like, I would say that I... It was 2000, probably. Ten is when it really was when I started. 2010, when Tenant was the tenth chapter. Yeah. Yeah. So I couldn't have any of the other nonsense. Then I saw Tenant and was like, okay, if he's in this, I'll watch. Like, I like this guy's energy. I still hated Rose. When she got left on the beach, I was like, good, I don't care. Also, like, I think even back then, I found a doctor-companion relationship in that manner very, like, icky. Yeah. Which strikes me as strange, because at that time, I was, like, pro-Jason Bateman and Juno, like, problematic. Also for other podcasts. Yeah. The, let's say, canceled podcasts. No, no. It's more like a warning, because that's what we were taught as young girls, that, like, oh, you're not like the other girls. You're so mature for your age, which is... So doctor who? No, don't cut me off. This is important. I will not be cut off by a man. But a grown man does not think that a 16-year-old child is mature for their age. They know that they don't have the life experience to realize that, hey, the reason you're not with anybody your own age is because you're a creep. You're a predator. I could do this. I could do a whole podcast on this. Maybe I'll have my third podcast to include this. But, yeah. So I made it my new thing to add doctor who to my Lexicon, and never really looked back. So you didn't like it, but then liked it, and then watched it all on Netflix. Do you remember, did you fall off at some point? Did you watch it all the way through? I think I mostly watched it all the way through. Did you know anything about doctor who before starting? Yeah. What did you know? None of the specifics, but I knew they traveled through time and space. I knew they had a police box as artists. So I'd say I knew, like, the basics. But I wasn't quite sure how the regeneration worked, how that, like... Were you aware that multiple actors... Yes. Okay. I wasn't quite sure how that fit together, like... All right. And then you watched it, and you were kind of, were able to obviously piece it together. Yeah. And the thing about me is, like, I'll be honest, I don't love every Tenet episode. There's some slog. Oh, yeah. There's bad episodes in every single one of Doctor Who. And I do remember it took me three or four times to watch Rapaldi's intro episode. Oh, yeah. I remember that. I remember when we met, that was one of the things you told me about. Because I was like, okay, this is a really old guy. I'm not a big fan of his intro episode. I think maybe it's one of the weakest. Is there, like, a dinosaur? There is definitely a dinosaur. It's just so hokey, like... But now, and that was a really interesting part of this that I didn't really expect, is viewing it now at 33, re-watching these episodes, I've got different things out of them. I feel differently about almost everybody in the series. Now I like Rose. She was, like, hilarious. And she had lots of, like, sassy quips, which I guess read back to me at that point as, like, quote-unquote, bitchy, because that was just how I was, like, raised by society. And then now, this time through, I was like, I hope you can get it. Like, um, okay. My feelings haven't changed on Tenet. He's great. Matt Smith, though, he used to be my second or third doctor back and forth, you know. I would maybe put him near the bottom of my list now because he's just kind of annoying. He's too exuberant, like a very caffeinated puppy or something. We'll rank doctors later on. They'll be part of our personal feelings, not obviously, like, anything official. It's official forever. That is true. This is the official Doctor Who preview episode. Am I going to learn anything? Anything. So, you didn't really know much going in. You knew that it was a different actress than a doctor. Okay. Now I'm going to try. And I also knew, like, that Old Who existed and that New Who was a thing that came back. And, like, I was like, well, maybe I'll like that. You knew this before you watched the episodes? Yeah. Okay. All right. So, I'm going to try. You're like, I have always known I was born with Doctor Who in my eyeballs. Actually, no. I'm hoping maybe I will surprise you and maybe the audience. I started getting into Doctor Who around the time, after the 50th anniversary. Around the 50th anniversary, which took place November 23rd, 2013, because we just had the 60th anniversary. So, I got into it before you. You got into it way before me. Wow. I told you that might surprise you. So, here's my award-winning breakdown of Doctor Who. And then I'll explain my background around it. No. I want your background first. Okay. Well, it helps enforce. You want me to explain my background first? Yeah. I'll explain Doctor Who. So, I had a few internet friends who liked Doctor Who. It was way after college that I got into it. And it was something that was on Netflix, but it was already, by that time, about seven or eight seasons deep. People were like, if you watch it, you will love it. If you watch it, you will love it. That's similar to what I got. And so, when people tell me that, my first instinct is, I don't want to watch it. Except for me. Then, we usually experience things together. I think I IMDB'd it, or I looked it up, or I saw that there are different faces of the Doctor, but I thought it transpired the way, kind of, the way James Bond does. Or they just chose a new one after a certain time. They just chose a new one after a certain time, and that there's no real. And what really shook me, and something I really want to iterate, Doctor Who is a show that is about one thing and one thing only, and that is change. Doctor Who is a show that is about what happens in different stages of a person's life, and the different things that you go through, depending on what you did beforehand. Going in, I obviously did not know any of this. I did not know that they were companions. I did not realize. I knew that there was time travel that was a part of it. I knew that there were several actors at the time. I thought there were only three different actors in all of Doctor Who, because I thought Doctor Who started in 2005. Matter of fact, it wasn't until, I think, one of the Christmas specials, in which they showed multiple different actors that portrayed the Doctor, that I even knew that there was Doctor Who before the year 2005. So I think I actually started Doctor Who probably in 2014, 2015. It was when I first started watching it. That's the funny thing about you. What about me? It kind of reminds me of how you went from, I don't watch Avenger movies, to like, you know all of it now. And like, I didn't watch Doctor Who until 2015, but now Doctor Who is mine and you've received Doctor Who message for every gift, occasion, from everybody in the whole world. Because they're like, oh man, you like Doctor Who. Yeah. And I do, and I still feel like I go through, I think that's part of like the hyper focus of like ADHD. Yeah, because it like, it becomes your personality. Slightly, I guess so. But anyway, enough with the cycle of Netflix, that's just my experience with it. So I watched it all like rapid succession, and then my mom was interested, and I re-watched them all with her. I remember... Is Jackalson her favorite? No. Or Capaldi? Tenet. Tenet? She loves Tenet. Good choice. I've heard her text her and tell her that the new episode just aired. Yeah. I'm very happy. So, you know, I re-watched it twice before seeing anything live. So I feel like a lot of, I think I re-watched now maybe some of the episodes we just saw, maybe it's my fifth or sixth time watching it. Wow. I never really got around to re-watch unless I forced somebody to watch Vincent and the Doctor. Yeah. Because if I'm trying to get somebody in, it's either that one. 11th Hour is a really great show. Yeah. I've done Blink before. Also not a bad one. Because all I want to do in life is to make people watch what I watch and be like, see, look. Look how much you love it now. Look how important I am to you. So after I, so then I started with, I remember the very first episode I watched live, this was back when I had cable. Wow, really digging yourself there. Yeah. Was Kill the Moon, which is perhaps one of the worst episodes of Doctor Whoever, where basically the moon, there's a whole abortion conversation involving the moon. Well, when I think about abortion, I think about the moon. And I think that it is, I think it's funny that that was my first live one. So Gopaldi was my first live, like, week-to-week waiting episode by episode. I also had no idea the concept that like, oh, sometimes Doctor Who doesn't air in a year. Or, oh, there are only about 10 episodes. This was back when like most shows had like 20 to 22 episodes. And then so like whenever there would be a big hiatus, I would look through certain methods to find ways to watch classic Who episodes, because I had learned that there were other Doctors beforehands. There were eight Doctors. I think I'll never watch those just for the fact that they can't give me all the episodes and that pisses me off. That some don't exist anymore. That's so sad. Well, from the third Doctor on, hurt week, all the way through, every episode exists. It's only the first and second. And it's because BBC is the cheap bastards, and they like re-recorded their old film stuff over, because they didn't want to buy more reels. There's also talk that there was like apparently a fire at one point, and that's where they had the backup reels. But I think it's 100% because they didn't want to use more reels, so they just recorded over stuff. So most of the stuff that we see that is the classic episodes from the first and second Doctor is because they found them in different stations that had recorded them. There's a station in Canada that had recorded them and all that. So that's really my whole experience with Doctor Who. You know, went back, watched a lot of classic. I have not finished the whole run of classic Doctors, just because, you know, like life gets in the way sometimes of doing them. Life finds a way. But I will probably touch on them just lightly on this episode. But the major focus will be new Doctor Who. Doctor Who is, for those who've never seen an episode, I don't know what you're doing. You can watch them all. All the old episodes are on Max. So you can watch from Eccleston's Doctor all the way through Jody Whitaker's Doctor. And so the reason why we're saying different actors is because it's a show where this character that is an alien who presents as a humanoid has a time machine and also named a TARDIS, which stands for Time and Relativity Dimensions in Space, which the very, very first companion, which is the Doctor's granddaughter, Susan Forman, states in the first episode. It is supposed to be a Camille. Obviously, the biggest reason is because the BBC had no money and they had no money to do different props. But the whole idea was it was supposed to blend into whatever atmosphere. And in 1963, a police box was common. So it was something that people would find. But then when you walk in, it's a gigantic spaceship because it's bigger on the inside. I'm looking right now in our room and I see we have a cup that is covered that is a TARDIS. We have some nice TARDIS wall hangings that are really bookend. We have a decoration Doctor Who pipe, a sonic screwdriver, David Tennant's head for coffee, salt and pepper shakers. You have the same cup as me. Very hard to drink out of a square cup. Come on. So, yeah, we've got a book over there that I found at the Dollar Tree. It was a really good one. Hooniverse over there. Like, examinate Doctor Who quiz book and don't forget. Don't forget the mad list. Honestly, he was circling so mad every time he received them and like part of me weren't bad. It's just like, it's just one of those things. Like we have Doctor Who towel. We have, I've got maybe two or three blankets. Yes, we've got the Doctor Who. Sorry, night mashup and they'll go to start. Here's our tour. I'm just saying like Doctor Who has a very strong hold on us. Yes, and is one of the things early on that we really bonded over. That's true. So again, it's just like I said, it's a show. This man, there's a doctor. We never find out his name, although that's sometimes a part of a plot. Sexy, right? That is as hard as the thing. I was just being so, so he, he ever since. So 1963 or she, the doctor, they are always traveling with a companion. And it has changed several times, depending a lot of it's on the actors, actresses availability. Most of them human companions, although in certain cases they have non-human companions. I'm looking at canine. For example, they have common enemies. They have the dollars, the Cybermen, the orange, June. Tell me what you told them about the. Well, when we get to the specific episode, I'll bring them. I'll mention that. Yeah, let me get this. Oh, my God. Just mention it. I just, I want to explain with Dr. Who's about. Oh, my God. I think they got it. Doctor. For those of you wondering, this is not a fast paced medical drama, either. It is. Not a PhD, not an MD. I would say he's a PhD, though, and she's a PhD. 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