TOS Ep. 2

The hosts discuss whether they would rather fight 100 duck-sized horses or one horse-sized duck. They debate the speed and strength of each option and the possibility of taming the animals. They also talk about their favorite dinosaurs and the idea that dinosaurs may have been smaller than previously believed. They then discuss their favorite pets, with dogs being the preferred choice. They mention their own pets and their quirks. This is Touch It Stupid, I'm Luke. And I'm Riley. Welcome. Hello. Today we're going to be starting with the question, would you rather fight 100 duck-sized horses or one horse-sized duck? Hmm, you said a hundred duck-sized horses. Would the horses, like the horses, there's a lot of horses. And I'm assuming, do they move at like duck speed? They move at horse speed proportional to how big they are. So what does that mean? So if a horse goes like 60 miles an hour regularly, then it's like a tenth of its size, so it goes like six. Oh, I can't run that. I think I, hmm, but like if you could tame the, if you could tame the duck-sized horse. Yeah, this hypothetical is you have to fight it. Oh, but like what if I fight it and I earn its respect? It's like, you know, like you, you fight the horse and you win, and like it's, you show, you prove it to be the strong, you prove the horse to be the stronger person or stronger creature and it bows down to you. And then you have a giant duck that you can ride everywhere. Or it eats you. Or, or it eats you, yeah. But which one would you be able to beat in a fight? Which one would you rather? Okay, so abiding by the laws of it's the strength of said animal but proportion to the size. I am not fighting the duck-sized horse. That is just, that is just a dinosaur at that point. Yeah. You'd be fighting a dinosaur. Uh, and given the fact that the horses are only running like six miles an hour, I can walk that speed. Like a light walk. If you were walking on a treadmill? I could just kick. Yeah. Six miles an hour is at least like a medium jog. Yeah, like a medium jog I can go, I can do a medium jog. But I feel like if, because one, one kick to a, to a, like a duck-sized horse would not take it down, I don't think. What do you think? No. No? No. Okay, so are we allowed to, like. Well, no, duck-sized horse, maybe. I thought you said the horse-sized duck and I'm like, no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Duck-sized horse, yeah, you might be able to do that in one kick. In one kick? Yeah, you might. Now the question is, is like, how, do they, do they utilize pack tactics or are they all like running like straight at me? I think they're probably just running at you. And in this hypothetical, am I allowed to, uh, like, like, uh, uh, scrounge for weapons? Weaponry? Like scavenge? Yeah, I guess so. You'd probably start like in the middle of the street or something. That'd be the funniest news article. Florida man fights a herd of horses? A herd, a herd of duck-sized horses. And then they're like, we're live from Miami, Florida and this man is being chased by a hundred duck-sized horses and you hear like the little, like gallops. But he has a spoon. He has a sharpened spoon and he's going to stab people. Not, wait, no, not people, horses. I mean, it's Florida man. Florida man might stab someone with a spoon. Yeah, I think I'd also prefer the hundred horse-sized or the duck-sized horses. I'd, I'd prefer a hundred small horses over a giant duck. Yeah, cause a giant duck is like basically a dinosaur. Yeah. Cause like, aren't, aren't like the modern bird like the, the descendants of dinosaurs? I think it was chickens. Chickens that have like the most DNA from dinosaurs or something. Yeah. I think. Maybe. But what's your favorite dinosaur? My favorite, ooh, I've had a lot of favorite dinosaurs over the years. Uh, my first ever favorite, my first favorite dinosaur was the, uh, Velociraptor. Specifically the one from Jurassic Park. Cause they are very different in real life than the movie. Uh, my most recent favorite dinosaur, I can't remember the name, but it's basically just like a 40 foot long alligator or crocodile. I can't remember what it's called, but it's just a really big crocodile. And it would kill, it would hunt like full size dinosaurs in the water. Or maybe the Titanoboa. Yeah, I think Titanoboa is like a huge snake. Yeah. Like the, I wonder how actually, like how big that thing is. I think it was like 20 feet tall. I'm curious. Yeah, you can go ahead and check that. I'll check it. I think my favorite is probably the ones that have the really long necks. Uh, Stegosaurus? Is that a Stega? I don't recall. But it's the one that's fully herbivorous. Yeah, the ones that get the really goofy long necks and the little heads. The giraffe dinosaur. Yeah, okay. The giraffe dinosaur, yes. Yeah. Uh, what were we looking at? How long was the Titanoboa? 42 feet long. Okay. That's a big snake. Pretty big. That's actually scary. It's a snake. I'd be terrified of that thing. It'd be a cool snake. How did we ever survive? Well, we didn't. Well, like, how did we live to thrive like this? Meteor. Well, there were dangerous things after the meteor. Yeah, but not that. Not a 40 foot snake. Okay, yeah, true. Um, what we found out in like a few hundred years is like, oh no, there's actually a thing with bones. As they age, they grow bigger. So all of these dinosaurs and things that we thought were huge were actually just like the size of a lizard. Like, oh, after a certain point, due to like the minerals in the earth back in prehistoric times, it actually expands the bones and makes them look far bigger than they were. That'd be so just weird. It's like, oh yeah, we scaled these back down to normal size. Like, dude, the T-Rex was no bigger than like a Gila monster. It was like a salamander. Instead of that ginormous roar, it's just. Yeah, like a cat hiss. Or that lizard that has like the, that flares out the, uh, looks like an umbrella almost. Yeah. I don't know which one, I don't know the name of that. It's like green and red. Yeah. Um, maybe the funniest thing, like, oh yeah, we've been like teaching this for like hundreds of years. It's like, oh yeah, dinosaurs, yeah, they were a thing. They were huge. Or were they? It's just, yeah, oh yeah, they were like kind of probably the top of the food chain for the longest time. Oh, actually no, they were the size of like a lobster. The, uh, the Mosasaurus, the one that like lived in like, that was huge. It's actually like no bigger than like a fish, like a bluegill. Yeah. That'd be, that'd be, ooh, I don't know what to think if I were to like go on the news one day and just like, oh yeah, it confirmed dinosaurs weren't as big as we all thought. They were actually midget, really, really tiny little dudes. They were all miniature. Yeah, they were all mini, little mini boys. Like, like, they were like the size of a, like a little dinosaur toy that you get at like a Dollar Tree. I'd buy a, a pet dinosaur if they were that size. Oh yeah. I, I still wouldn't probably, I mean, regardless of if it's like the size of a salamander or the size of a building, it's still predatorial, so it's going to try to eat it. Titanoboa is just, oh yeah, the bones enlarged. And it's just a regular snake. Yeah, it's just like a, it's just like a garden snake. Yeah, the bones absorbed some of the minerals and expanded, you know, growing like, like a tree. Yeah. It just got really big. It turns out Titanoboa was really just roots. It just wasn't even real. Nope. Nope, that's real. All fake. But. No, actually, they're not bone. They're all just 100% stone. We just saw that a few of them fit together in a certain way, and we're just like, this is good fiction. I mean, you're not wrong. I mean, fossils are just bones, but they kind of got, it's weird, because fossils are not like what you think they were. They're not legitimate bones. There's actually no trace of bone in a fossil. It's actually. It's stone. Yeah, it's just. In the shape of it. Yeah, no, some, like dinosaurs get trapped in like mudslides or like giant like collapses of dust. Yeah. I think maybe tar. Yeah. And it would leave behind the imprint of what the bones were after they rotted and decayed and decomposed and they were just the bone and it just preserved it for that long. Yeah. Which is really cool, which is also, I don't know how we're able to extract DNA from stuff like that. So what's your favorite kind of pet? My favorite pet? We mentioned that a little bit. What dinosaur would you want to have as a pet? But what would be, what's your favorite pet in general? In general? Dogs. No. I like dogs. That's a good choice. It's a very basic answer, but it's like, they're just the best pets. Yeah, I'd probably say dogs as well. Also, I also really like cats too. Cats are sweet. Though they can be very annoying. I have a cat. Yeah. She's very annoying, especially when it's night time and you go downstairs to get a drink of water and she proceeds to attack your ankles for whatever reason and then bolts off into the shadows to never be seen for the next three to four hours. That sounds like a you problem. That is not a me problem. That any cat owner can attest to their cat at like two in the morning, ruthlessly attacking you just because they're hyper at two in the morning. Maybe, but I know a few people that have cats that are just chill 24-7. I wish I had a cat that was chill 24-7. My cat's the definition of like if bipolar was in a cat. It can be, she can be super chill at one point and then 30 seconds later she's sprinting around and swatting at my feet, wanting to eat me. So my dogs, one of them is old enough to where he actually has some kind of like a dementia and the other one is, he's younger but he has like anxiety. So we just have dogs that just have like anxiety and dementia and you're saying your cat's like bipolar. Yep. We just picked some, our choice in animals, we just picked all of the ones that had problems. All the ones that are really weird. Yeah. I feel like Cody when he was younger was pretty chill. Yeah, he had trauma because he was abused when he was younger, before we got him, but. He seemed to chill then. Oh yeah. Got used to his new environment. Mm-hmm. Now he's at the age where death is not dangerous. And he's just like, ah, it's coming eventually. Yeah, he'll like start trying to jump off my parents' bed and it's like, you know, three and a half feet in the air. It's like a tall bed and he'll just start trying to jump and they have to go and get him and let him down because he used to be able to jump all the way up and down. And he's just like, ah, if I die, I die. He's like, he's like 16 now. He's the definition of an old man that is just like waiting. He's just waiting to die. He's like, he's just kind of sleeping a lot. He's like, well, if it happens, it happens at this point. I heard a comedian say once, like, you don't want to drive in the car with someone that's old enough to where they're not scared of death. You don't want them behind the wheel. Ever. No, not at all. Cause then they'll just randomly start speeding up and forget you're in the car. And you're just like, you're singing like, oh my God, we're gonna die. And he's like, yep, I don't care. No, we're all right. I've gone faster. I've gone 120 on the freeway. It's fine. I know what I'm doing. I've gone like 180 once. It's fine. I've done 180 in a school zone. It's fine. Yeah. Stop signs are really more just like kind of a suggestion. Yeah, it's a suggestion more than anything. Like what are the cops going to do? Pull you over? Not if you go faster. If you go at a certain speed, a red light looks like it's green. Really, all you gotta do is you just gotta get a car that has a higher speed than the cop cars and you're good. Yes, and then you become a wanted fugitive. Well, if you get caught. You're still wanted if you don't get caught or not. At least you're wanted. Wow. Grandpa, you need to take your meds, Grandpa. Yeah, you need to take your medication, Pop. Here, take your pills. You'll feel better. Okay. Whatever you say, honey. He just snaps back. She's like, Janice, what happened? I don't know. You started speeding up. You haven't been yourself in 20 years. This has been the first time in 20 years I've taken my pills. I told you you should take your medicine. You were right, Janice. You were right. I feel like I'm 10 years younger. I'm slowly progressing like Herbert the Pervert from Family Guy. Oh, yeah. Ah, Crash. Are you just turning into Family Guy characters? Yeah, I don't like to devolve. The peak of human comedy. No. No. I like it when funny Family Guy dude falls over in Family Guy funny way. You seem like the type to enjoy Family Guy moments. No. No. No. Maybe at least in the background of whatever you're actually listening to. No. I turn on like two and a half hour long YouTube videos and I just watch and listen to it in the background. Oh, Family Guy. No. I'm not that ADHD. I don't need the Family Guy funny moments. Family Guy? The Family Guy. The Family Guy. Everyone talks about Family Guy. No one talks about American Dad or Bob's Burgers. Yeah. American Dad was very Family Guy-esque. It's just not as popular, I think. Yeah, I think so. My impression is it just wasn't quite as good either, but I don't know. Have you ever watched much of either of those ones? Yeah, I don't know, but I heard Bob's Burgers was alright. It got a movie, so. Yeah, I heard about that. They also got a video game. So, an interesting question. Did you ever play, when you were a kid, what kind of games did you play on the computer growing up? A lot of Flash games and a lot of cool M.A.S.H. games. Did you ever go on the Nickelodeon website? Oh, yeah. Do you remember any of the games you played from there? Jeez. I don't know. There was like this SpongeBob platformer. Okay. I can't remember what it was called, though. You just slap things with your spatula. Kind of like one of them side-scroller beat-em-ups, SpongeBob. Okay. I don't know if I played. I feel like I played some of those as well. I mostly played one. It was called Fin and Bones, and it was an Adventure Time, like, fighting game. Really? Yeah. Talked a bit with a co-worker a while back. Apparently, he played it as well growing up. Turns out that you guys both fought each other at one point? No, it's not a multiplayer. Oh, really? It's a single-player? It's a story one, yeah. Oh. Did you ever play, like, Webcams or Club Penguin or anything like that? I wasn't able to convince my parents to give me a Club Penguin login. I was like, Mom, please! No, you don't need to be on the Internet. I'm like, man. You missed out on Club Penguin. I missed out on Club Penguin. I was there. I saw the iceberg tip over twice. Really? Yeah. What happened when the iceberg tipped over? There was, like, a dance party on the other side, and you also got, like, a unique helmet, I think. Oh. Club Penguin was fun. I heard the game was kind of grindy. Uh, not really, no. It was mostly just, like, you go to random places, and they had, like, different games. Like, they had a DDR game. They had a snowball fight. It was mostly just talking with people on there. Oh. It wasn't, like, an MMO or anything. It was just a social one. Got it. The only thing I remember really from Webcams was, like, an MMO. I never played Webcams either. Webcams was literally just a bunch of online games, and that was it. Really? Like, you could have a house, like you could in Club Penguin, but it was literally just a bunch of games, and that was it. Hmm. It was like an arcade, and you'd go, and you'd make money, and you could spend money on, like, cosmetics and stuff. Oh. Yeah. I missed out on that kind of stuff, because my parents were like, no. Well, Club Penguin's gone, but maybe sometime you can go back and you can play Webcams. What if I make a login? Yeah, you'll have to, we'll, okay, if we ever do a stream, and we actually do, like, a video capture of, like, the computer or of a game system, we'll do Webcams, but you have to convince your parents to make a login for you. You have to convince them to do it for you. It says I need a parent. It does. When you make an account, it says, you need a parent or guardian to finish this part. Oh. You need to go to your mom with your laptop or computer, and just be like, hey, can you do this? I want to play a game. Oh. And you keep, like, a little lapel mic on, so you'll have to record the audio of you asking. She's going to say something like, why? Just do it yourself. And be like, I need, it says I need a parent or guardian. Just fully commit to the bit, and just be like, I can't, it says I have to have a parent do it. Yeah. Can you do this for me? I really, really want to play this game. No, seriously, like, can you do it right now? And if she says no, then go to the exact same question to your dad. Okay. I will, I, okay, that actually sounds funny enough to where I would do it. Just like, yeah, we can record, put a little mic on that's, like, fairly subtle, and just record while you're doing it. And just be like, that'd be a funny reaction, but they're just like, huh? And you just be like, what are you, you're old enough to do this on your own. But it says I need a parent. But it says I need a parent or guardian. Please. Help me. Um. Yeah. That would be, that would be a funny idea. I know at some point, I have a, I got a game capture card. So at some point, maybe later on, we could probably try doing, like, an actual stream of some sort. But we need to get, we need to upgrade some equipment first, but. Yeah. At some point, we probably could do that. I'd love to do that. We have a lot of old retro games, game systems. Not super retro, but. We have the really bad Sora Online game. Yeah, we have SAO for the PS4. God. That was so bad. Like, we were expecting it to be bad, and it blew us away with how bad it was. It wasn't even bad in a funny way. It was just bad in a, like, genuinely awful way. Yeah, it was not even funny. It was just like, what, why, this isn't even fun. Just like the actual show. Yeah. Like, this is so laughably bad. No, it's just so bad that I can't even laugh. Yeah, it's deemed on, like, the third season. I think it is. Association? Yeah. So, which is, like, such a bad series by that point. Earlier on in SAO, I thought it was alright. That, and the first person mode being atrocious. Yeah. Dude, oh my lord. Yeah, it seemed like it was almost trying to do, like, Genshin-like art style, but it was doing it really bad, and then suddenly there was a first person mode, and it was just like. I don't, like, this, it's so funny that the company that created that game, Bandai Namco, are the same people that make the Street Fighter series. Oh, yeah. And they also make the Phoenix Wright games. Like, how can you make, how can this company make both really good and really bad movies? Or, not movies, games. I don't know. It's so weird. It was probably, like, not, it was probably, like, oh, their main team works on the really good ones, and they're like, oh, yeah, we got, like, a, we got a company wanting us to make an anime video game. We'll put, like, the newbies on it. The people that don't, that aren't, like, the best programmers will just be like, yeah, just hand it over to them. That'll work. I, uh. So, you got any fun questions? Um. If you could pick, like, any hobby to do and get paid to do it, and if it required resources, like, the resources were provided to you, what would you do? Hmm. Like, assuming you didn't have to, like, pay rent for a house or anything like that. You could just solely focus. Just do one thing. Yeah. One thing. Um. Well, the problem is, so, with the hobby, any time you make it, like, a job, like, you have to actually do it consistently, it's not really a hobby anymore. Mm-hmm. I guess, for me, maybe I'd do, like, woodwork or, like, building furniture, maybe. Mm. Even furniture, even that would get boring after a while, but it'd be interesting enough because, similar to drawing, you could keep trying new things that you haven't done before. Right. I don't know. You know, I would say, generally, if you could just do, like, super general, not specifically drawing, you just said making art, and you could do, like, tons of different methods of it, like, you could do sculpting, you could do drawing, painting. Mm-hmm. That one would be one where it's like, oh, yeah, you have to do it consistently, but it also depends on, like, what is your opinion of art, like, is music considered art, too? Mm-hmm. I'd try to do one that's, like, super open. I mean, they do call, like, people who sing artists. Yeah, so could you do singing, making music with, like, instruments, and then also still drawing, sculpting, building? Like, a super all-encompassing one wouldn't be too bad. Yeah. But if you did something like, oh, I want to play video games, like, oh, hey, you know, a game I really like, I want to get paid to do that, at a point, you're going to be, like, I don't like this game anymore. I've done everything there is to do. And you're not going to want to do it all the time, and then suddenly, when you have free time, you're not going to want to be, like, you know, because, like, having something you're into, like, a video game or a show you like, maybe it's YouTube or whatever, that's nice for, like, oh, yeah, I went to my job, I worked for a few hours, and then I just relaxed for a little bit. I find, like, oh, I booted up an old world of Minecraft. Like, something that, you know, you might find relaxing. Or, like, oh, I played some Stardew Valley. I watched, maybe, I watched some Ghibli films or something like that. Yeah. And if you said, like, oh, I get paid to watch anime, suddenly watching anime would be a task. Yeah. Because you'd start getting to where it's, like, well, gotta rate more anime. Yay! Yeah, and it's like, yeah, it'd be nice to be able to do something fun that you really want, but at the same time, you'd just get tired of your hobby. Yeah. Um, I'm trying to think if there's anything else I'd want to do. Yeah, like, doing, like, carpentry or, like, just general building, like, metal work, woodwork. That kind of stuff is, like, either that or just doing, like, you know, being an artist just generally was good, but. Yeah. Um, sleeping. You get paid to sleep ten hours a day. Perfect. Oh, my God. That'd be a dream. I'd suck at that job. Horrible at that job. Like, oh, yeah. You get paid, um, for every hour you sleep, you get paid a hundred dollars, so you sleep eight hours, you get eight hundred bucks a day, and then you have the whole day to do what you want. Dang. That'd be a good deal. That'd be a dream. Yeah, sometimes literally. Okay, bro. Um. Uh-oh. Yeah, that'd be a good one. Yeah, that would be a really good option, but what would you choose? I don't know about doing it for a full career, but there's always one that I thought of. If you could get paid, like, I think the hypothetical or, like, the situation is, you get paid every day for every mile you, every consecutive mile you run slash walk. Mm-hmm. And you get paid, like, I think it was like a hundred dollars per mile. Right. So, that's a good one because it's incentivizing you to do exercise every day. Mm-hmm. And it also can be, like, a really high amount of money. You wouldn't need to do anything. You wouldn't need to search for work ever. Yeah. And if you wanted to, you could even pick up, like, you know, that's basically just doing some simple exercise. Or, uh. And if you need money in a pinch, you just run that treadmill. Yeah, you just say, like, okay, I'm gonna go five miles today. Five hundred. That's not bad. Um, the spin on it I like is, um, and this brings me to something I'll mention in a second. I got bored at work and did some math. Um, math. I like the idea of whenever you do exercise, you get paid a set amount of money for every pound of weight that you move. So, if you're lifting weights or you're, like, on an exercise machine. So, say, like, for every minute that you're, like, physically moving, we'll say ten pounds. Every minute you get, like, uh. Ten bucks? Like five bucks for every ten pounds. So, if you got to lifting weights, that incentivizes you to just, you know, basically be healthy on a consistent basis. But also, if you ever increase and you do more, then you get paid more, too. Yeah. And it's like, oh, yeah. It encourages you to, you know, do a good amount of exercise, you get paid money, and then you still have free time to do what other things you'd want. Yeah. And then you'd be tired at the end of the day because you did some exercise, so you'd probably sleep better, too. That'd be a good one, doing exercise. Yeah. But, yeah, when I was at work once, I was thinking about that hypothetical, and I was like, wait a minute. I was thinking, like, what's the definition of lifting weight? Anything that requires a weight, and you lift it. Well, you could say that, but at the same time, your legs carry your whole body weight all the time, each step. Uh-huh. And I got curious thinking about, wait a minute, how much weight have, like, so I'm 20, how much weight has my legs carried throughout my lifetime? So, I did, like, some just rough calculations with, like, oh, I've always been on quite the heavier side, so for age 20, the average weight that I've had in my lifetime is probably about 175, like, averaging it out. So for 20 years of that, and I estimated, like, oh, I probably walk, like, kind of low-balling it, but on average, probably about 800 steps a day throughout my entire life. You put it at, like, for both, for each individual leg, half a billion pounds. That's how much weight my legs have individually. So both of my legs combined, it carried 1.05 billion pounds of weight in my lifetime. So, I think the term of, like, lifting weights, or, like, lifting weight is, like... Added onto your body, but... Added onto your body weight. But at the same time, if it's like, oh, I'm gonna go on a run with a 50-pound backpack, then you'd say, I was lifting 50 pounds, right? I think lifting is the action of picking up something, and not necessarily carrying it, because that's a different exercise in and of itself, is carrying something. That's true, but carrying something, your legs are still having to lift it. No, because your legs are supporting it, not lifting it. Yeah, but the muscles in your legs still have to hold all of that additional weight the same way that your arms do. If you were to squat down and pick up, like, a 50-pound weight, and you just kept your arms slack, would you still say you're lifting it up? No, because you're not in the action of motion. Okay. Okay, then, yeah. In that case, it'd be different. Then it wouldn't include legs. Because, like, doing a weighted squat is a lift. Yeah, I feel like doing a deadlift is obviously a lift. It's in the name. Yeah, but if you did a weighted squat, and you just, like, your arms were just slack for it, and you just did a squat, I would still say, I would still say, yeah, I went lifting. Yeah, because you're moving your legs. Your legs are in motion when carrying a heavy body. Yeah, every time you take a step, your legs are bending and contracting. I'm not saying you're just standing still. I'm saying, like, you're walking. When you're walking, your legs are individually having to bend and lift all of your body weight. Hmm. And if you're considering that to be the same thing, then, yeah, 1.05 billion pounds at age 20, that means in your whole lifetime, if you lived to, like, 80 or something, you could be in, like, the, like, 4 to 5 billion range. That's just the amount of weight you carry just from your legs, not including anything else, like, from your arms or any exercise you do, anything like that. Mm-hmm. I thought I was very bored at work and did all of those in my head, and I was just like, huh, okay, 800 steps a day, 365 days a year, 20 years, 175 average weight, so that times every step, and just multiplying them all together. Interesting. Uh-huh. That's a lot of weight. I'm, yeah, I'm, well, okay, that is more for me. I know that I have not, especially when I was younger, did not, I went, like, for, like, a 4 or 5 year period, I did not walk much, and even 800, which isn't actually very much at all, like, you probably walk, like, if you walk to the other side of your house and back, that's, like, 50 steps. That's, like, you know, throughout the day, you walk to the bathroom 3 or 4 times, that's already, like, 100, 200 steps. You go, you walk to the bathroom, you walk to the fridge, and you, like, cook a meal for yourself, that's still, like, 300 or 400 steps just from that, not even, like, intentionally walking, like, if you were to pace in your room for 20 minutes, then that's, like, an extra, like, 200, 300. Um, I know at work right now, I'm walking probably more, like, 3 to 4,000. Yeah. So, it's, like, I did, I was kind of rough with my estimates and just, like, kind of a little bit favorable, just kind of lenient, and I was, like, yeah, probably about 800 on average throughout my whole life, and then about 175 is what I've weighed throughout my life for 20 years on average. Right. Yeah. A billion pounds. You're, like, if you're 20 and have, like, if you're a similar age, similar weight, similar amount of walking, or it balances out to be about the same, your legs have individually carried half a billion pounds of weight, which if you've ever done exercise, like, you've tried curling, like, 30 pounds of weight when you haven't curled before, it sucks. Yeah, like, 30 pounds is rough when you first start. Half a billion. That's why your legs, that's why legs are so... That's why your legs are the strongest muscle in your body. Yeah. Or the strongest limb in your body, I guess. Yeah. Like, the, like, muscles are probably still the strongest, but... Which is why a deadlift is so much easier, like, you can do some, a lot more on a deadlift than you do a bench press. Yeah. Yeah. A decent bench press. That's why we walk on our legs, not our hands. Some people do. Yeah, some people do. People without legs, they do it all the time. Yeah, but admittedly, the legs are also fairly heavy, so you weigh a lot less if you don't have legs. Yeah, you're, like, half your weight. Mm-hmm. Yeah, if you're, like, suddenly two-thirds or a half of your weight, then it's easier to carry yourself and your arms, and then, of course... So, even if, even if someone without legs, like, if they're running on their hands, like, that takes a lot of arm strength. Yeah, it does. Have you seen some of those people that can do that? Like, some of the legless people that are just like... Yeah, they can run pretty quick. Oh, even with that, like, they're not anywhere near as fast as, like, using legs, but they can go pretty fast. Yeah, they can move. Yeah. They can scuttle. Yeah. Like, I don't know why, this sounds terrible, but, like, I would be so scared if someone like that were to approach me, like, just running at me like that. I'd be so scared. Yeah, so, I've been watching some YouTube videos and tutorials and just, like, discussion recently on specifically drawing horror. Right. And a common topic that I've heard a lot about is specifically trying to go for kind of that uncanny valley, where it's the idea of drawing something that looks like it could be normal, but there's just, like, some things that are off. There's, like, little things off about it, yeah. That makes it, like, unsettling. Right. I think that, like, if someone, like, if you saw someone on the street that had, like, a different orientation of limbs than anything you've seen in person, that would throw you off in a similar sense, I think. Yeah. That's probably why. Oh, that's just making you uneasy thinking about it. Like, if you ran into someone on the street and it was, like, their head was slanted at a, like, to the side, and they had an arm, like, one of their arms, instead of on their side of their chest, was on their back, and you just saw their silhouette, it'd be like, yeah, it'd throw you off. It'd be like, you'd need to take, like, a second to process what you're looking at, because you're like, oh, that's not what I'm used to seeing. So, that's my understanding of, like, specifically trying to draw stuff that's creepy, with, like, yeah, it's drawing stuff that looks like it's almost normal, but there's things, like, either that you can't quite figure out, or things that you're unsure about, stuff like that. I also saw something where it was, like, there's a distinct difference between bad horror and good horror. Bad horror jumps at you and you can't kill it. Good horror is something that you easily kill, but the thing is that it always comes back. Well, that's a good one. The way I, one of the things I've heard explained is, most of the time with horror, the part that's scary isn't actually as much the actual, like, oh, I'm being attacked, or, oh, something jumped out at me. Most of the time, it's the lead-up to it. The anticipation, right? Yeah, it's the anticipation not knowing when something's going to happen, not knowing what it is. If you get, if you were, like, walking in the street and suddenly the alien from Alien Isolation, or from the Alien movies, if it started running at you and attacked you, it's like, you'd see it and you'd at least recognize what it is, roughly. You'd see what kind of body it has, you'd see, like, how you're getting attacked. But if you were in a spaceship from the, from that franchise, and you were searching around, you're just hearing noise, you're hearing drool dripping from the air vents, and you're hearing giant footsteps and clanking sounds, you have no idea what's out there. And you don't know when it's going to come at you. Yeah, you don't know if it's going to attack you, you don't know what it's doing, you don't know what it looks like, what it's capable of. That fear of the unknown is a lot bigger than a fear of something that's just fairly big and strong. I would really like to see a horror movie with no jump scares in it. There's definitely some. Yeah, jump scares, they got more popular, I think, recently, especially with, like, back when Five Nights at Freddy's was coming out, that game franchise getting really big. Right. Yeah, there's definitely some that are not a ton jump scare. Going back to Alien Isolation, it can be jump scare, but it's not intentionally. It's more of, like... It just kind of happens. Yeah, it happens just kind of randomly, but it's more of, you have to think about how you survive in the game, and if the alien starts approaching you, you're kind of, like, scrambling to think, what do I do, what do I do? Whereas, like, FNAF, going back to Five Nights at Freddy's... Oh, closed door. It's just, if you're about to get jump scared, there's nothing you can do, you're done. That, I don't think is a good... I don't quite like that trope very much, of the, oh, you just get jump scared, and then a couple seconds later, you're just back, you're fine. Right. But if you, like, read a story, or you watch a movie, and there's something that's, like, they describe horror in a way where it leaves you questioning, like, what is this supposed to be, what is it supposed to be able to do? And you're not sure? I'd say, like, the best feeling is, if you're watching a horror movie, you want to walk out of it with the feeling of, if you were to walk down, like, even your own house, if you were to walk down, like, at night, you go walk to the bathroom and the lights are off. If you watch something that's, like, actually scary, you should feel a little bit unsettling. Like, you should be a little bit, like, concerned, like, oh, is there something behind me that I can't see? Joke's on you, I'm always feeling like that. Yeah. That just means you're always scared. No, I'm always over-paranoid. Yeah. But, yeah, if you watch, if you watch a movie and it makes you especially paranoid of just, like, things in the dark, things you can't see, and that's, like, yeah, it kind of did what it, you know, not every horror movie shoots for that, but if that is what it's going for, then it did a good job. If you watch, if you walk out of a horror movie and you're like, oh, that was funny, I got spooked a couple times from a loud noise and a picture jumping on screen, then it's like, okay. Yeah. It's like, okay, whatever. It wasn't really scary, but if you was, like, if you read a book that's talking about, like, um, one of the ones that I know of, like, is psychological horror, or in the sense that, like, oh, something is happening, like your mind is changing. Yeah. Then that kind of stuff, if it's done really well, makes you question, like, oh, is there something wrong with me? Is something changing? Is, you know, like, oh, what if, what if the way I think about stuff isn't actually how stuff is? Right. Makes you kind of question just very general things. I love psychological horror. Mm-hmm. It's, like, it's the superior version of horror, in my opinion. Yeah. I quite like it, too. What's a really good psychological horror movie? I honestly never really watched many horror movies. I find them boring, honestly, when I was a kid. Yeah. Most of the horror stuff I watched, I, anything that I was exposed to, I just did not get scared by. Mm-hmm. And it sounded kind of boring, so. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not a really good person for horror movies and games. The most I ever got for any games was just feeling just a little uncomfortable, not, like, in a fun way, like, just in a, I'm not really interested in playing this game anymore. It's just not interesting. Right. But, uh. I've looked up a few of them. Yeah? Yeah. Oh. Um, yeah, one of the ones you, um, you were looking up, Silence of the Lambs, I actually have it on DVD. Really? But I haven't watched it. I've had it for a while. We should watch it. Yeah, I got it from my uncle. He was getting rid of some old movies and stuff. I got some music discs, and one of them was Silence of the Lambs. I'm like, okay, I've heard of, I've heard of this, so maybe it's a decent one. Um, I also picked up a good movie called A Beautiful Mind, which is about Sigmund Freud, who had, uh, schizophrenia, I believe it was. Yeah. Yeah, so, that's also a good, a good movie. I actually watched that one in my psychology class. That's the only time I've seen it, but I quite liked it, too. Jacob's Ladder. I don't know if I've seen that one, or if I've heard of it, even. After returning home from the Vietnam War, veteran Jacob Singer struggles to maintain his sanity, plagued by hallucinations and flashbacks. Singer rapidly falls apart as the world and people around him morph and twist into disturbing images. Uh, his girlfriend, uh, Jessie, and his wife, Sarah, or ex-wife, Sarah, tried to help, but to little avail. Uh, even Singer's chiropractor friend, Louis, fails to reach him as he descends into madness. Oh. Okay. Came out in 1990. Mm-hmm. Yeah, maybe sometime we'll watch a good horror movie together. Yes. We could watch Silence of the Lambs. We could, at some point. At one point, yeah. Since I have it. Yep. Um, yeah. It's, uh... Remind me, what was the question we started with today? Um... It was the horses and the duck one. Yeah, the hundred horses, uh, one hundred duck-sized horses, or one horse-sized duck. So you said a hundred duck-sized horses? Yeah. I agree with that one. Yeah, I feel like you could outrun them, you could jump on, like, a table or something, and you could just take them out, like, one at a time. Whereas a stick... The horse-sized duck is like, nah, it's over. It's like, it's probably faster than you by a lot. Oh, yeah. Um... Ducks can do a lot... Your only chance is getting into, like, a space that's too small for it to fit in. And then slowly poking it to death. Yeah, but even with that, like, it's kind of iffy that you'd be able to find a weapon and a space to do that really well. Like, what I just realized that's even scarier is that you got to, like, multiply a duck's wingspan by ten, so it could also fly? It should be able to fly, yeah. Well, maybe. I think it would. Because it's got the strength multiplied by ten, so it could still fly. Probably, yeah. And it's also got the stab... It's got a stable enough bone structure, because it's, again, it's... The strength is also multiplied by ten. Everything about it. Yeah, it'd be a lot bigger and stronger. Um, yeah, thinking back to, like, you've seen videos of, like, chicks following people. Mm-hmm. And, like, they can keep up with a person, like, actually doing, like, a decent run. Yeah. And they're, like, tiny. Like, they're smaller than your foot, and they can keep up with most people just doing, like, a jogging speed. Right. So, it's, like, imagine one of those huge. It'd be, like... I think it'd probably be as fast as a car. Yeah. And it'd be able to fly, too. Yeah, no, you'd probably be done. And, of course, the beak on, like, a duck or a goose is, like, usually not super thick, the, like, bone or whatever the material that makes the beak up is. But if it was huge, it'd be, like, it'd be, like, an inch thick, just the material. The, like, feathers? The beak. Oh, the beak? Yeah, the beak, and the claws would be significantly bigger. Yeah, they'd be, like, velociraptor claws. Yeah, legitimately, it'd be, like, as dangerous as the claws, like, from Alien. Oh, wow, yeah, you're right. Yeah. Then, also, if you want to be horrified, look up what the tongue, like, the tongue of a duck looks like up close. They got teeth on their tongues. Yeah, they do. Can't say it's similar. Yeah, it's a similar function, but it's a lot bigger on a duck, and it's only on the sides. So, when you get bit by a duck, you get, like, you get chomped out by the beak, and you get scratched up by the claw, like, the teeth tongues, the tongue teeth. You know, I think there was a type of gecko that actually has, like, several rows of teeth. They have, like, ten rows of teeth or something. Ew. Yeah. Ew. You ever heard of a sheep's head? Uh, no. The fish? It's got human teeth. Oh, I've seen pictures, I think. They look, they look like the nerd emoji. Uh, maybe. The one with the buck teeth? But, yeah, yeah, I've seen the teeth, and it just looks like a normal fish, otherwise. Um, but, yeah, I would say hundred small horses, not a giant duck. Really? Yeah. Logical. It's better, I think. Yeah. Um. He looks like he'd be a nerd. The fish? He'd probably ask about homework. Anyway, uh, is this where we're gonna wrap it up? Yeah, I think it's a good spot to end it. Alright, well, I see ya later.