BCM Ep 12

The podcast hosts discuss their preferences for chicken wings, specifically whether they prefer drumsticks or flats and whether they like ranch or blue cheese dressing. They share their own experiences and favorite combinations of wing flavors and sauces. They also briefly mention their opinions on other condiments like ketchup and relish, as well as their thoughts on cucumbers and pickles. They end the conversation by discussing the feeling of being "in the zone" in different sports. Welcome back, everybody, to the Broken Clipboard with Nolan and Ashby. We've got some special guests on today with Randy Bandolo and Mitch Malott again. Brunk cannot join us today. He is Dean Ralph Brunk. We also have some other guests that are potentially coming on. We will see that if it happens. So we're going to jump right into it. Ashby, you got a thing to kick off the podcast today? Yeah, so when you guys go and get wings at a sports bar or whatever, are you guys a fan of drums or flats? And do you prefer ranch or blue cheese? What's a drum or a flat? I don't know what the hell the difference is. Wow. Well, we can start there. A drum is the meat or the heart, Nolan. Oh, a drumstick. What is a flat? Oh, it's like a flat of fly, then. Well, the flat's the piece that has two bones in it that you can pull out and eat as a whole. OK. OK. No one ever pulls out. Yeah, I'm a little fan of those. Um, for that, I guess I didn't know that's what they were called. OK. Well, in all honesty, back to the original question, I don't usually get wings when I go out to sports bars. But if I do, I'm probably eating them straight up, maybe with ranch. That's about it. I think the only correct answer here is boneless with ranch. Yes. So chicken nuggets? Yeah, nuggets, boy. Nuggets. I'm a drumstick guy. If I go to Buffalo, I get a honey barbecue teriyaki dirty mix. So I get a sauce that's mixed together with a little bit of ranch and carrots. How'd you come to find that? Did you do other dirty mixes and then set it on this one? So 2017, I got a full story for you. Goes to years. A lot of time in the lab. Yeah, so 2017, Southern Oregon University's offensive line, every single, I believe it was Tuesday nights, because it was like half off wings or $0.50 wings or whatever on Tuesdays back then. The entire offensive line, we do O-line dinners. My junior year, when we went to the semis, every single Tuesday night, we went to Buffalo. So we had about 20 offensive lines. And they had our table set, kind of like one in the week that we do. Oh, yeah. And so we would make, so Tuesday's practice was hard. Wednesday's practice was full pass hard. So we would make however many games we won. That's how many beers one of the freshmen had to drink on Tuesday nights. It got pretty tough when we started. We were like 8-0, 9-0. They were having some pretty tough Wednesday morning practice. Wednesday's practice? What'd you say? Was it like a morning practice? Oh, yeah, 6-8, like 7 AM, full pass. Yeah, and we would make one of our freshmen. They ended up starting to split it, because once we got to like 6-7-8, they were getting pretty tossed. But yeah, we spent a lot of time in the lab figuring out different mixes, and dry rubs on fries. And spent a lot of time in the lab there in 2017. What's an offensive lineman down in a sitting like that? Are you doing 16 wings, 12 wings, 20 wings? Yeah, you're doing probably 16, a large fry, and then as much ranch as physically possible. And then I would never dip into the desserts at Buffalo, but you'd get those. Some guys would dip into the cheesecake bites and whatnot. And then you're just racking up points as well. So every fourth catch was damn near free. Nice. So it was a good way to do it. But we did that all 2017. Yeah, every Tuesday night's Buffalo Wild Wings team, like, O-line dinner. Oh, sick. So yeah, that's how I came up with that concoction. Yeah, that's a pretty good. What was the concoction again? It was honey barbecue and teriyaki dirty mix, is what you tell them. So they fucking mix the sauces together. I gotcha. And then the real order would have been extra crispy, extra wet. You get those fuckers fried up, get a little extra sauce, and let's fuck. But we don't go that deep anymore. Ashby's got to have some stories about just downing wings. Right, Ashby? Well, I'm a big food guy. So I went to Burger Bob's here in town. And I got three orders of Parmesan garlic wings and finished about two and a half boxes. I think there's 12 bone-in wings in a box. So I got close to 30. But my go-to is I'm a big flats guy. And then the ranch or blue cheese, it kind of depends on my mood. But more often than not, it's ranch. Do you have the party trick down with the flats where you break the one in and then it flies right off? Yeah, you twist it real quick. And then you pull out the two bones in one sitting. And then you dip it and down the gullet. So you basically turn it into a boneless wing? I mean, it's quick and easy. Yeah, I like the drums. I like to get an extra little bit of work on it, you know? 1,000%? Little candy can action. All right, what has the best ranch in what restaurant? I'm going to bow out of this conversation. I got put on ranch about a year ago. I told myself when I was a kid I didn't like ranch. I didn't eat it. I didn't eat it until last year. So I still don't know. I would say the McDonald's ranch is pretty fire. I would say, when I'm cooking ranch, I'm like, I mean, I don't eat it on ranch, but the ranch is like, I don't like, McDonald's ranch is pretty good. Never had it. I don't like the buttermilk ranch. Not a fan of that stuff. Personally, for me, it's the homemade ranches at small pizza shops. So in town here, we have Rosa's Pizza, and they make their own ranch, and it's outstanding. And then back in Billings, Pie Guys has some really good ranch. Yeah, not a big ranch guy. Like, I don't know. I'm kind of a fan on this one. Like, I don't really eat ranch, so I probably shouldn't have a ton of opinion. The first thing that pops in my mind is McDonald's ranch. Like, are you guys big fondant guys, like, just regardless on what it is, or? I'm not really. If I'm getting, like, a glizzy on the golf course, it's just mustard. Just mustard. Yeah, I'm not a big ketchup guy. Yeah, I don't like ketchup. See, I'm the exact opposite. I'm the exact opposite. I do ketchup on it, no mustard. Yeah, see? I'm a big relish. I'm not into that fancy relish shit. Oh, you're not a big relish guy, either? No, that's too fancy. Too fancy. I got turned on to pickles, though, in my ear recently. Shout out. To, like, oh, pickles in your beer? Yeah. Really? Have you ever done that? I never did that until whenever that was that we did it the first time, five years ago. That's a game-changer. I had no idea that that was even a thing until, like, we had a barbecue over here. And Dan was like, you got pickle slices? I was like, no. Yeah. Yeah. You ever done that, put pickle in your beer, Ashby? I'm not a pickle guy. Like, I personally, I probably haven't had or tried a pickle in, like, 10 years. I just never really, never really liked them. So no, I have not. Hey, Nolan, remember those pickles in Nashville? What pickles? The one where you guys blacked out? I do. I must say, I don't really remember the pickles in Nashville. Are you talking, like, at that barbecue place that we went? No, I'm talking about the other place, after. Still doesn't ring a bell. I was living on fumes by that point. Yeah. What a, here's a hot take. So I absolutely hate cucumbers, but I can eat pickles. OK. The flavor and texture, which is, like, pretty similar to a pickle, I cannot eat a cucumber. OK. I like grapes and raisins, a little bit. Yeah. Do you like grapes? I love grapes. You like raisins? I hate raisins. Yeah. I don't know if anybody really likes raisins. Do you remember, what were those little boxes in the raisins called back in the day? The Raisinettes, right? Is that what it is, the little red box? Yeah. Oh, the, like, the chocolate-covered raisins are Raisinettes. No, I'm talking about the, just the original box. You get, like, this little square, it looked like a Tic Tac container. And it was raisins. And you got those, you threw them away. I used to throw them at my friends. Yeah. I can honestly say I didn't throw them at my friends, but I know what you're talking about. I, I, maybe I'm the minority here in this conversation. I actually like cucumbers and don't like pickles. That's a weird. I know. You talking about this box? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Mitch? What's that? I'm saying, are you talking about this box? I wish I could see it. Oh. It's the Sun Made Californian Raisins, the red box with the gal on the front? Yes. Did she have purple hair? Black hair, but. I feel like it was purple. Maybe that was fancy, I don't know. Bougie. Bougie item. I got a question for the group. I think one of the greatest feelings in all of, like, athletic accomplishment is, like, getting on fire, like shooting threes. Yeah. Like, you slap four in a row and you know that fifth one's going in. What's the, what's the, what's the other sport equivalent of that? Like, is there, is there an O-line equivalent of that? You just get, like, three straight great punches. You're like, damn, I'm in the zone right now. Three straight plays with pancakes, I'm kind of in the fucking zone right now. Give us the fucking team. I mean, I would say, I would say, like, probably run blocking, maybe. Like, you and, you and the guy next to you or something, you get, like, three fucking combos in a row and you're just, like, beating the shit out of the guy. But you're never, like, knocking him in the zone right now. You know what I mean? Nah. I would say. You know, in hoops, where it's like, you look at your aim and you're like, man, this guy's on fire right now. I can't miss. Yeah. Baseball, maybe a pitcher. Just, like, just. Just throw, like, nine strikes in a row. You know what I mean? Just, like, three Ks. Yeah. I've been close. I've never truly experienced, I've been close to experiencing it in golf. Yeah. You're big off the tee, then you put it to within 10 feet on your approach, and then you hit it in your birdie putt. But then you go to the next tee box and you shank it straight right. Yeah. And you're out of it. You just, I'm gonna not lie to the people. I've never experienced it in golf. I suck at golf. Nobody's actually good at golf, you know? But you can be really, really, really bad at golf. That's fair. Yeah, you might have broke a world record for anything else. So fucking hard. I don't think in, like, I'm trying to think of football, like, I mean, quarterback, maybe, I guess. Like the two-minute drill? Yeah. Like, you're just dotting them up, you're seeing it, you're feeling it, or whatever. But it's never really, like, just you, you know what I mean? Like, a basketball, you fucking hit the shot. Yeah. But, like, football, like, even a receiver, like, I mean, I could see a receiver doing it just because they're receivers, or a DB. I don't know. Maybe an edge rusher, you know, you get a sack, and then, you know, you get a hurry the next play. Maybe you're feeling yourself, maybe, a little bit. Yeah, and then you try to fucking spin back and the guard's like... Yeah, it's big, yeah, it's big. Yeah. But, yeah. That's a hard one. I'd say... I can imagine. I could see table tennis, ping pong. I was gonna ask normal tennis, but you can see ping pong. Where you're just... Fucking eight serves in a row, just hammering them. Yeah. Fucking hammering them. Yeah. Or bowling. Any, like, individual sports. Bowling, bowling is the one. Yeah, bowling's the one. I was in Arizona over Christmas, and the guy bowled three straight, like, 280 pluses. Yeah. So, what do you mean? Do you mean 13 strikes? He went 12 for 13? Yeah, yeah. Like, bowling's weird, though. I haven't seen... Oh, no, there's some videos of, like, I think it's Norm Duke, where he's, like, firing up the crowd. I feel like, for the most part, bowling is such, like, a routine thing that if you're 10 straight strikes, like, you go sit down where you normally did, you wipe your hand the same way, you put your foot the same way, like... Yeah. It's not like a fadeaway three-pointer where all of a sudden you're jacked up and... Yeah. I think you're thinking of Pete Webber. Yeah, there you go, that's the one. Who do you think you are? I am. Yeah, that'd be the one. Yeah. After the big bowling guy. That's a good question. Yeah. As far as, like, lacrosse and hockey go, there was a couple times, like, as a defenseman in lacrosse, like, you go down, pick off a pass, and then next time they come down, you throw a stick check and grab the ground ball and clear it, and you start, like, okay, I'm going through a stretch right now where you're feeling it, I think. And as far as hockey, as a goalie, like, making two or three big saves, and then ice the puck, and then next shot that you see, you make a big windmill save, and, like, there's no bigger, like, fuck you, I'm in the zone, than making a windmill save and then staring the guy down. That's pretty... You get pretty hyped and pretty energetic after that. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that Ryder definitely did not have a windmill save in his save package. Yeah, right now. You know, you know. I think, I was just thinking about it, I think, like, maybe it was, like, a coach banned Oaks football. I remember, I think it was Westbrook, and, like, when it, like, 21, when we had Ryder's dog and all them, like, I could have, we could have drew a play in the sand. Oh, yeah, another game you're talking about. And so, like, that, like, we were just, we were just on, like, we were throwing fucking trick passes, we were fucking throwing screens, we were throwing anything. We played you guys the next week, and you scared shitless. Yeah, yeah. It was, I remember, I remember that one, it was, like, you just felt like we were, like, there's no way we're able to win. Yeah. What's the real-life equivalent of that? Is there anything you can do in life? Is it, all right, I'm a bartender, and I fucking hit that shot glass part of the road? That shot glass part of it? Like, is there a real-life, like, all right, I'm an accountant, and I just fucking ace three straight questions? I don't think so. I don't know. I think, like, this is gonna be really bad coming from me, but, like, like, you're having a good day, like, oh, I just found my 20 bucks on the street. Okay, you're walking, and then you're, you know, like, a couple hours later, like, boom, like, oh, this person just paid for my meal. And then, and then, and then this is where my days usually get fucked up, is I either don't, or I'm feeling myself a little bit, and then I'm just like, ah, screw it, I ain't gonna take a shot at this girl. Yeah. Or, or if I do, or if I do take a shot, I'm gonna say, fuck you. Yeah. Could you, could we experiment here with Nolan's love life? Yeah. And shoot three straight three-pointers and see if we catch fire? Yes. I'm in. It's just, that feeling, I know you've never experienced it, Nolan, of hitting multiple three-pointers in a row, but... I've hit a bunch of three-pointers in a row. I'm not playing 2K, I'm talking real life. Well, I'm talking real life. It's the greatest feeling ever, that you can't, you can't, you can't replicate it. Hey, Nolan, just, just curious, are we gonna go ahead and throw down the bet that you made with another one of our friends last night? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, we're not making that bet. It's not fucking happening. I'm not doing it. I think we should. Okay, so let me lay out the bet So, there's someone that we all know, and it's not me, that has the hots for this certain female and you won't shit or get off the pot and just ask, which is funny coming from me, I told him, he told me, he's like, next time I see her, I'm gonna ask her out. I said, and if you don't, he's like, I was like, well, you wanna make a bet on that? And he's like, yeah, sure, I'm like, so if you don't do it, then you have to go get a Brazilian wax. Like, deal. He had no idea what a Brazilian wax was and told me, okay, we shook on it, and then, like, do you even know what a Brazilian wax is? No, I have no idea. So the next time you take a swing, you'll go get a Brazilian wax? Fuck no. Why can't you talk the talk and not walk the walk? I don't know. I'm just saying, if you're gonna go ahead and give him that ultimatum, I think you should be able to take that ultimatum as well. Yeah. You have two Snapchats on the hook right now. I do. Go land one of them. Have you tried any jokes lately? Instead of pickup lines? Any pickup lines? Wait. Any dad jokes? Use, like, a dad joke. I have all sorts of dad jokes. No, right now. I'm actually talking to one of the two that we got on the line. Oh, quit freaking talking to them. No, I'm working on it. You are. I'm working on it. I got one for you. Yeah, let's hear it. What has five toes but isn't your foot? My foot? Yeah, yeah. You like that one? Yeah. That dad joke right there. Roses are gray, violets are gray, I'm a dog wolf. That's not a good one. See, Nolan, I think we pull a little Adam Sandler like grown-ups moment for you and you gotta tell them a joke, make them laugh, and then say they have a nice smile, and then when they start giggling again, you have to ask them out on a date that night before they say no. Um, I agree. Wow. Well, when it comes to logic, that's your chance. You open the window and now you gotta jump out it. Jump out the window? Yeah, good things happen when you jump out windows. It's just like target practice, right? Target practice. It's also situationship. Situationship. Oh, boy. You know, anything right now to get that dog to hunt, you know what I mean? Right now? What about your phone? We're doing nothing more important. I have no females to snap on my phone. You just said you have multiple of them that you're working on. None that I'm willing to send right now. I'm still working on it. Stop. Are you afraid of the two letters that make one of the scariest words ever? H-I? No, N-O. Oh. Unless you're dyslexic, that means yes. Last I checked, you weren't dyslexic. I'm not dyslexic. You just have that dog in you. No, the only one that's on this podcast that's got the dog in him is Bando. But... No, maybe you could maybe you could spin it in a whole different direction. What do you mean? Use the best friend thing and just, like, pretend you're gay. I don't think it's a pretending. I think that's already assumed. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. And then just play that game until you get over to the sleepover. You know what I mean? And then, you know, at that point, they're like, oh, this is my gay friend Nolan. Exactly. They start showing you outfits and fucking stuff like that, and you just gotta battle with it. They just pull you into the changing room with, like, hey, does this look good on me? And you're like, yeah. And then you just battle it until a point where you spin it into a positive, like, they knock the gay out of you. I think, uh, going back to Adam Sandler, I think there's an Adam Sandler movie that's like... No, there is. A hundred percent. It's now pronounced Chuck and Larry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. That's it. That's what you need to do. You and Bronx get married. And then play that card for a while. You know, just as a good rule of thumb, if you need a life lesson, there's a chance that Adam Sandler has a movie for it. Yeah. You know, I don't think if me and Bronx had a relationship, I don't think it would last. I think he would be a dick when he's drunk. Yeah. Or run over. Who's the pitcher? Who's the catcher? Between you and Bronx? Neither. We're just talking Chuck and Larry shit. Somebody's gotta do it. Is there something we're gonna have to edit out? No, I think we'll keep it in. Yeah, we'll see how it goes. I'm just saying, like, after last week's views, you know, this could really pump up the numbers. You don't know that. I don't have a job. How many views did we get last week? It was like, oh, let me look. I'll look. I'll fill it up right now. I want it for over, under eight. Over. I know that. I think it was 25. Woo! 28. In the last seven days, we had 27. We're fucking hot. Got some hot mics going right now. Gotta put the music on right. Alright. We appreciate everyone that listened, by the way. Alright, I'm switching. I got a new segment. You ready? It's back to the college football game. Did you guys hear an update? Every player that wants to be in the game gets $600 and a free copy of the game. I want to confirm that. I saw the email from NCAA. It's real. We're dropping it here first, so if y'all heard that, it's confirmed. Yeah, it's confirmed. We got no coaches, though. Sorry, Mitch. And no Delaware. No coaches and no Delaware. Why no Delaware? They're SDS, right? No, they're transitioning to the FBS this year, but when NCAA made the game, they had 135 of the 136 schools because Delaware just announced that they're moving up. They might add SDS schools, if they said. I think just from what I've heard, it honestly sounded like the FBS schools are going to be an add-on kind of thing because at first, at launch, it's not going to be FBS, but it sounds like there might be. I hope they come out with FBS and I'm going to be Portland State and we're going to win a bunch of matties. You ain't going to win shit with Portland State. Just kidding. Unless we have to fight the 50-hour a day, fucking Nolan Barfolk. That's not 50-hour a day, it's 52 days of Nolan Barfolk. Well, to be fair, it sounds like Robert Griffin III is going to give you a run for your money. He said he's going to do a 50-year dynasty and not a 30. I'm going to take a week off this summer. I'm just going to sit in my house and play my N-Civ away. Just can't take a week off. I'm going to stay up sick. Hey, Nolan, just remember your boss is sitting right next to you. You know it's no joke, dude. That's my lifetime boss. I'm going to request a week off. I would just like to throw out to the audience that after the conversation last week with Nolan being over a thousand hours on his Madden, we stayed after the podcast and played a game and I whacked his ass. No, you didn't. This dude can't play defense. Did I win? You did win. The only time he stopped me was it was one from like the six yard line and I threw a pick and that would have won the game if I scored there. It was 24-20. You were taking a lead with 50 seconds left. That would have won the game. I'm going to throw this out there, Nolan. There was a guy that told me once, it's not how but how many. Last time I checked, I think you told me that. Probably would. To be fair, when's the last time you won a game against somebody? Not Luke. Probably like probably like two or three months. No, probably like two or three months ago when I played Ashby last time and I beat him like 80-15 or something like that. I haven't played Madden since 2023, which was the last time that we talked in at least five years. You're saying it's been probably four months since you beat somebody in Madden. Probably. That's not true. I beat Luke the other day but it doesn't count. I've beaten Brock. He's a photographer and a plumber. But I have beaten Ashby. If we want to get into it, the last real win I probably had was against Ashby or someone in our Madden league that we had. I'll give him that. What's this Madden league thing? In Madden, you can do your franchise mode. You can do a connected franchise where everybody has their own team and then you play through a season and you'll end up playing each other. It's just a connected franchise online. To make it even more interesting, you do a fantasy draft style. If you play Nolan and you don't do a fantasy draft, then he's going to pick the Bengals and he's going to put up 90 points every game. Or I'll line up in a trio and I'm going to run inside zone. How many times have we played? Six? Four, I think. Four or five. We've played four times. How many have you won? Zero. They've all been within three points except for the first game. I'm showing better. The first game he's beaten me by three touchdowns. Now it's trending that they're closer games. Never mind. I won't say that. We're still in the conference. I was going to say, there are certain teams that if they score more than three points, holy shit, that team is doing so much better. I can't say which team that was. We can all know what team it is in our heads. We'll play one in the background. I can't see it from here. B.S. If either of you ever played Vando and Madden, he doesn't want to stop the run, so run the ball on his ass. I'll tell you right now, I won't because one, I didn't like last year's Madden and I hate this year's Madden. It's getting worse and worse every year. Two, it's just not enjoyable for me right now. I'm kind of used to the game. I think what makes it more enjoyable is always winning. It helps. In all fairness, the only person I ever lose to is Vando, so I do a lot of winning. I would agree with what Vando said. Mitch, you ever play Madden? Are you shitty too? I would say I'm average. I'd probably beat you. I'd probably beat Nolan and lose to Vando. That's so bullshit. You wouldn't beat me. You sure? I'm pretty sure about that, buddy. You're so confident for never winning. I've never played you. I've played him, but I've played you. You talk shit, but anybody you play, you lose to. That's not true. I talk shit to Ashby. He's really bad. I'm sorry, Ashby. You didn't even catch a stray there. Speaking of strays, Vando, why'd you throw a stray at me in your position meeting the other day? I throw strays at everybody at any moment. You just happened to catch this one because you weren't in the room to defend yourselves. God. I shit on Nolan's love life in my position meeting. Nice. And then you shit on it in front of a recruit. Oh, yeah. I did do that to him. Watch us get him. Was it a running back? Yeah. I'll go with that. All good. We'll see. Yeah. Well, I got a question for you guys. It's starting to get around that time of year. Anybody doing any March Madness brackets? I don't know if I'm allowed to. Good. Way to cover your butt there. You got to plead the fifth on any sports bad conversations. I would love... I can't wait to watch it. I can't wait to watch March Madness. Mitch. What? Why can't you do one? I don't know. I just don't know what the rules are in NCAA to do that. I'll have to ask my draft player personnel. I guess I forget that coaching you guys have some things that you can't do. Sure. Shouldn't. But I was definitely that kid. Back in the day, dude, I used to love March Madness fan though. I would get a poster board when I was middle school, high school, even high school. I'm not going to lie. I would get a poster board. I would fucking draw it with a ruler. A fucking full bracket. It was my official bracket that I'd have on the fucking kitchen wall or in the living room. I'd have the app on my phone every class I'm watching the games. I love March Madness. When you're picking your bracket, are you gut instincts? Are you a stats guy? Stats guy. I look at the top scoring offenses, top 10. One of those people win the national championship every year. There's four or five different statistical categories that have proven to have a winner over the last couple years. I make two or three of those, but then you have your full upset bracket. I'd probably make six brackets. I'm a Duke college basketball fan. Reason behind it, Kyle Singler, Medford, Oregon. Went to Duke. Those Kyle Singler teams were fun to watch. Listen to this. Back in the day, South Medford, Kyle Singler, Kevin Love. They played two in a row, I think, state championships. Each one won. Then Duke and UCLA. Those have always been two teams I love just because those guys played from Oregon. The Kyle Singler brothers, they would have this tournament that we'd always play in when we were younger at Kids Unlimited. This big gym in Medford, they opened. They'd have Manny Ball and this Kyle Singler tournament. Every year, he'd come back to host this big-ass tournament. It was pretty sick. There's one Duke bracket every year. I always pick Duke for that. Are you still this way? Yeah. I don't do the big bracket anymore, but maybe I will this year. I'm by myself. I definitely watch. I try to watch as many games as possible. What was it? Florida Gulf Coast, Dunk City. All of those teams. Chicago Loyola. UMBC? Yup. Was UMBC the year that Loyola went all the way? They went to the Final Four, I think, right? No, UMBC is the team that beat Virginia in the 16th season. They were the first team ever. I couldn't remember if that was the same year that that happened, but the year that Loyola went to the Final Four, me and Ashley actually went to that Final Four in San Antonio. It was pretty lit. Villanova won it that year. Was that the buzzer beater? No. That was the year, though, that Villanova broke the record for most threes in the game. It was Villanova-Michigan for the National Championship, and Villanova just forced them. See, I like watching the Always Bet Error pick the Texas Tech. The 12-5s, man. The 12-5s are 4-13s. The other one that's really always an interesting one is your 10-7s and your 9-8s. I love March Madness. I was super big into it in high school. Maybe early college. Now I just get busy that time of year. We're practicing on those weekends. We're in the middle of spring ball. It's become a little bit harder. But I'll make sure I always still fill out a bracket. When you guys are at home, do you guys throw up three or four games picture in picture? Watch the games, too? Or not so much? Like how Abando was saying, most of the time that they play Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Most of the times that those games are playing, at least for Carroll, we have practice Friday night, usually. Friday evening. We miss the Friday games. Saturday, we practice, so you kind of miss some of those games. I don't think you watch as many as you'd think. I was definitely the kid who had my TV have one game, my freaking laptop had one game, and my phone had one game. Back in the day. I'm kind of like the dad that sits on the couch and just flips through channels. Oh, this game's going on. I'll watch for a couple minutes. Then I'll flip to the other game. That's what I do. Do you think the NCAA playoffs 12 team will be similar? Or will it still not have the impact of March Madness? It won't have the same impact, I don't think. What makes March Madness so crazy? Is it the fact that you're playing two games in three nights? Is it purely the brackets? And people just... That was the first of sports betting where people just, alright, well cool, I can potentially win something, so I'm going to do this. I can get the perfect bracket. Yeah. And it's the field. What is it? 60-14, is that a start? Yeah. It's such a massive tournament. You know what I mean? I think it would be the same if you wouldn't be able to do it. If you had a fucking 60-14 football bracket to go win the whole thing, that would be so intense. I think it kind of overlapped what you were talking about at one of your position meetings this year. Bando is like conference championships are cool, those championships are cool, but when you get into the playoff, anything can happen. I think that's a cool thing. You're putting 64-68 depending on if you count the play-in games. You're putting that many different teams from different areas. Some get looked over, some don't. Because of where they're at, you put them in there, anything can happen. Here's a follow-up question. In sports, should the best team win the championship? No. March Madden is certainly not set up that way. In the NBA, it's probably set up that way. 7-game series, the better team should win. Yeah. Just one game. NFL is always going to be one game. Baseball is a series too, right? Yeah. Baseball, hockey... Yeah, I think that's a good point. I think the best team should win the championship. Describe best. Best players, best coaching, best... You know what I mean? Best overall team with everything should win. That's my opinion. Do you give an opportunity like March Madden for upsets? Yeah, I don't really have. You can't. It's more of a dramatic upset in a one-game series, obviously, than it is a 7-game series. Yeah. I think the one thing with a one-game versus a series style tournament is you just got to get hot in a one-game one. The hottest team usually wins once in one. That's the thing with that. Versus you can out, essentially, you might lose a couple in a series, but usually the best team ends up winning. See, I'm kind of on the same page with Olin. Single-game series, you know, teams get hot at the right time, and then some teams that have been hot all year fall off the face of the earth. But then in 7 games, I would almost argue that that's more of a momentum thing. Like, yeah, you split series, you go home and home or whatever, do 2 games and 2 games, and 1-1-1. But in a 7-game series, momentum carries over. Like, you can look at any series where even if it is 7 games, whoever wins the 5th or 6th game is usually trying to carry that momentum into the game 7 to try and pull off, whether it's an upset or pull off a large victory to keep going for next series. For sure. But every NFL-style game or any 1-game series, isn't every game like game 7? Yeah, but I'd also argue in that 1 game, unless you play that team in the regular season, you're seeing that team for the first time and you're making it your all. Are you generally a hot team or did you come off playing on your heels? Or are you cold? It's kind of, I would say 1 game series isn't necessarily as streaky or momentum-based. Yeah, no, I agree with that. I think it's much pressure in, like, game 7 is 1 game. Yeah. I just like the I'm a big fan of the 1 game tournament thing because the games just mean so much more. You kind of get lost in the monotony of more than 1 game. That's weird. Thank you. Do you even know what that means? Sweet. Yeah. That's kind of where I stand with it. I thoroughly enjoy I don't know. You definitely probably can't do a 7 game series for football, but for basketball, I think it's legit in basketball. Yeah. I think I'm excited for the 12 game playoffs. I think that'll be sweet. Speaking of the 12 game playoffs, did you guys see that in the new NCAA game, kind of going back to this, that they made it so that you can playoff realignment. You can make it smaller or bigger in squad with your tournament or with your playoff. I don't know the exact details. I just saw that the other day, though. As soon as I get the game, I'm only playing with you and Elvie. Me, too. Nobody else. Do you get the book yet? It's on... It should get here this week. So, I got a question for you guys based on the game. Now that we're seeing college football make a return through EA, should EA make the March Madness as a game, too? It used to be in 05, 06 they had the college basketball version, too. Bring that back. 2010, we had Blake Griffin on the cover. I played the shit out of 08 or 07 Kevin Love on the cover. That was 2009. Yeah. That was the only one I played and I fucking played the shit out of that one. Wasn't Durant on one, too? Yeah, Durant was on 08 when he was at Texas and then Greg Oden was on 08, wasn't he? No. What's up? I played the one with Greg Oden on the cover. Oh, Greg Oden was... I don't think 09 was fucking UCLA, was it? Yeah. Wasn't there the... Oh, what's his name from Gonzaga? Adam Morrison? Yeah. Wasn't he on the cover of one? He was 07. Nolan, can you name every Madden cover? For the most part. Starting one year ago. Hold on, hold on. Let me settle this real quick. So, 10 was Griffin. I was 2K8. Okay. I didn't realize this. I played the 2K version. I didn't know they did both. So that's what Greg Oden was on. 2K8. Yeah, I was Morrison in 07. Kevin Love was on 08. Kevin Love was on 09. Do you know who was on 04? 04? Yeah, Mello was on 04. That must be a classic one. Alright, let me pull up the Madden covers. I got them up, so... Perfect. So, I'm going to go backwards. I'm going to go backwards. So, we'll see. Can I just go ahead and do them? Try and go in order. So, this year it was Josh Allen. Last year was Lamar. So that would have been... 21 was... You skipped 23. You skipped 23 and 22, because Lamar is 21. This is not going well. 24 was Josh Allen, correct? Yeah, it says on it. 23 was what? Was it Patty? No, it was John Madden himself. Because he passed away. Oh, yeah. So, 20... Oh, yeah. So, 24 was Allen. 23 was Madden. 22 was... Brady and Mahomes. And then 21 was Lamar. 20 was... Oh, shoot. 20 would have been... So, the problem here is I bought the legendary versions for the last couple, so... Yeah. What was the Seahawks? Was that 19? That was 15. 15. Yeah. 14 was actually Madden 25, and that was Adrian Peterson. Oh, Barry Sanders. Or Adrian Peterson, look it up. Adrian Peterson was on the legendary edition that year, and it was Barry Sanders and the regular 25. Oh, sorry, I'm the regular guy. Can't afford the guy 23. Again, Nolan's jumping around. He missed a huge gap from... I am jumping around now. 13 was Calvin Johnson. 12 was Peyton Hillis. Drew Brees. 10 was... Give me a hint. Two of them. Larry Fitzgerald and Troy Polamalu. 9 was Wett Farve. 8 was Vince Young. Let him in the boat. Yeah, that was a pretty good game. 7 was Sean Alexander. 6 was Donovan McNabb with the Eagles. 5 was Ray Lewis. 4 was Mike Vick. 3 was Marshall Falk with the Rams. No, no, wait. 3 was Dante Cole. No, no, no. Marshall Falk, 3. 2002 was Cole Pepper. And 1, I don't know. Eddie George. Alright, that was pretty fucking good. The ones that Nolan missed were... 15 was Richard Shurm. 16 was Odell. 17 was Brady. Nope. Strong, strong, strong. 18 was Brady. 19 would have been Antonio Brown. Yep. And then 20 would have been I think Brady again. No. That's pretty good. Well done there, pal. Yeah. It looks like our guest appearance has arrived. What's up, Dev? What's up? Can you hear me? Yeah, I can hear you. Can you see my screen? What's up, Nolan? You better be careful. That's territory you got there. We already determined earlier in the podcast that apparently I was blocked out for a good portion of Nashville. I thought it was about three quarters, no doubt. So why don't you go ahead and introduce yourself for all the listeners out there. How we doing? My name's Devin Gage. Currently coaching at Georgetown College. Thank you for coming on. Big special teams guy. The whole. Right here and there. You know, I dabble a little bit, but happy to be on, fellas. Thank you for coming on. Absolutely. Sorry, we don't have our other special teams guy here. He was kind of being a bitch this morning. Not again. Where's he at? Yeah, Brunk didn't make it. He had a long night, I guess. I was at a 32-year-old ladies' birthday party. I was at a seizure in the dance floor, dude. I'm too old for that stuff. All right. Run us through it. What's your go-to dance move? Go-to dance move? It's got to be the sprinkler. That's where I'm at. I'm a big whip guy. Hit the whip. A little nae nae after. A little nae nae. Honorable mention, like shopping cart lawn mower. Nice. No doubt. No doubt. The bus driver is always a good one, too. Open the door for the kids, waving my arm in the bus. Big worm guy. Bust out the worm, Noah. Oh, boy. Oh, no! Oh, no! That was crazy. For the listeners, that loud banging noise was, in fact, him doing the worm. That was him landing on his chest. It was more my beer belly. Did you guys see that? We see the top part, yeah. Oh, I got you here. The worm be done and executed. No one since about middle school. I thought that was impressive. You got to work on the start. The finish was great. I had a really shitty start. You got to roll it back. We were trying to figure out how to turn this camera on. I was trying to join the chat. What are you boys up to on Swine Saturday? Being hung over and trying not to do stupid shit again. What's up? Can you show Deb your helmet? Oh, yeah. Deb, you're going to love this. Where'd you get that thing from? He stole it. Put it on. I wouldn't say stole more than commandeered. Put that bad boy on. I'm not going to lie. I don't know how much that's worth. That may not be worth the plastic it's made of. A little snug, but... You should be playing for UNLV right now. A little snug. Did you guys commandeer that when you played them? In northern fashion, they left it in the locker room. I then walked into the locker room. I saw it, and I was instantly like, I'm going to snag that. Since we're probably past the statute of limitations on that crime, I'm going to throw out here that I'm not supposed to sit in this, too. He let me store it in his office, and he said if they don't call for it a week, you can have it. They didn't call. Do you have an item from every team? No one in the conference? I don't think I have one from every team. Definitely have a football team called Idaho. I may or may not have a footballer, too. I was really tempted when you guys were at southern the last year, that there were a bunch of seven of your footballs sitting on the ground with nobody around. I was really tempted to take one. I can tell you that, right? But I didn't do it. I'm a nice guy. Yeah, I can tell you, too. So. Can I pass on this thing? Yeah. Okay, cool. You're a shit weasel. Probably the worst GA I've ever been a part of. I got one of them working for me right now. Thank you. Well, Nolan, I think it's time. I think it's hit the hour where you got to give Dev an update on your love life. Can't wait. You know, it's been there hasn't been many shooting of the cannon. So there hasn't been much target practice done. Mainly because I refused to pull the trigger on the cannon. I wish I could control the trigger like that. There's been multiple opportunities. He just hasn't fulfilled any of them. I thought I'd leave the cannon tied up. What's up with your cannon metaphor? You big pirate? Big pirate guy? Not pirate guy per se. He's not getting the booty. You know, I don't know. It kind of just came to me a little bit. I like to talk to myself like, you know, I have a cannon too. Even though it could be average. But seriously, whatever we've been striking love here, you've had a couple hits, which told me. You know, it's been... Yeah. I like looking on strike. Yeah, we talked about earlier him trying the gay card. And just pretending he gets invited to the sleepover. I mean, that's a bull. Bull right there. The struggle with that is digging yourself too deep to when you get invited to the sleepover. And you can actually maybe touch something. Yeah, that's true. Well, I also told him, you know, Adam Sandler has made a lot of movies, a lot of life lessons to be learned. Because Adam Sandler made Chuck and Larry. What was it? I can't pronounce it. Was it Jessica Biel there? She's a smoke show. I don't know. That's a big movie commentator. Big movie guy. I do love my movies. What's the last movie you watched, though? Last night. Don't judge me. Don't judge me for the movie I watched last night. No, no, no. I watched Magic Mike. The third one. I had to. It was on Netflix. I was like, you know what? Pull the trigger. Recommend? Actually, it's not as much stripping as the first two. It was average. I mean, it was okay. I watched. But it was late at night and I had my macaroni and cheese. I did come back from this birthday party and I figured I've seen the first one. I figured what the hell. Might as well. See if I can get any tips or tricks. Yeah, I definitely can't move like him. So, I don't know. Well, we just saw Nolan. Nolan had some music in the background. A little rain from the ceiling. I think Nolan's right there with him. Hey Mitch, I got a question for you. I'm looking at your SOU bio and it says as a sophomore you were named the Gridiron Classic Goals Offensive Player of the Game. Oh yeah, maybe. How? It was the entire offense line. Oh, so you were one-fifth of the player of the game. I was one-fifth. It was in our bowl game at Fiskies. We rushed for like 360 yards or something crazy in a small monsoon in the mud. We won an offensive player of the game. That's kind of sweet. Yeah, that was pretty sweet. It also says I lettered in swimming, which is accurate. Three times. Big swimmer? Big swimmer. He's a long snapper in Oregon? Yep. Chris Rubio. He couldn't cover though. I transitioned to short snapping. Makes sense. Yeah. Have you guys seen the video of this? Which video of this? Hitting the water bottle off of the turbo post. Yeah. I don't know if I ever brought that one out. I found it. Yeah. That was the full story behind that. This kid named Tanner Carew. He was the long snapper in Oregon. And posted a video. Remember when all those videos came out where they were snapping? They were hitting a water bottle? Yeah. Yeah. So he posted that. So I posted that one as a flex back at him. And we were doing a little back and forth game. Snapper flexes. Snapper flex. And that snapper reminded him that you play at Oregon. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was awesome. Only snapper ball so far. Hey, Deb, I got your SOU profile pulled up here. We're going to go trivia. How many career tackles you had? 356. Oh, fuck. 343. That's a fucking lot. How many career TFLs? 96. No. Tackles for losses, brother. Maniac. Maniac. I want to say it's like only... I had a good year. I had like around... almost double digits. I'm going to go like 17. You're 12 and a half sophomore year. You're 28 and a half total. Okay. How many first dabs? Not many, boys. That's a pretty typical pass rusher here. A lot of those stacks probably should have an asterisk. Actually, the very first sack of my career was against the Saints at home. Did a little B-gap pressure and the quarterback didn't see me. He stepped up and, boy, he got a sack. That was my redshirt freshman year. Big nerves that game. Big nerves. That was a big one. Shout out to Dev. If it wouldn't have been for injury, Dev would have been the leading tackler or so in Oregon. Yeah, no doubt. The little guy broke his ankle. College of Idaho ran an old counter and got stuck in the wash. After the whistle, too. Stuck in the wash. The foul just came. He just rolled up on the ankle. Not ideal. To answer your question, I'm thinking I had eight and a half. Ten and a half. Wow, that's more than I thought. Guys, we get humble. Well, no. You should know this. How many career picks? Career picks? Yeah. Three. Three is a good guess. I know I had one. Yeah, I'm one of you. I had one. I got caught back. Armando Gager roughing it. Took seven steps and just annihilated the quarterback. The quarterback threw a ball. That was a good time. I think I dropped a big one to seal the game. We didn't lose, but I remember that one. The linebacker coaches, I felt them staring at me from that box all the way up there. See if I had a corner. I always had good games. Three is a good guess, Mitch. I'm going to say four, though. Website had you at one. One sophomore year. That's highway robbery. There you go. There you go. Talk to somebody else. I had to think those two. I know that. Last question. Career high for tackles in a game? That was 19. I know that one. That was easy. One of my linebackers that I coach now, if they get over 19, I'll take them out for a steak dinner. That's my thing for them. The closest was Drew Shuler, actually. He got 16 against Carroll. First time made a big roster change to the LB spot. Drew was good at that. He was good at that. That's a little cheating. Do you remember the game 2018 at Carroll? Oh, Jesus. Did we shut him out? No one was there. That was my freshman year. Do you want to know that was also the end of Southern Oregon football? I don't know. That game almost started a riot among football players. Let's reminisce about the Southern Oregon Carroll rivals over the last five years. I guess we're going to go to 10, brother. The last five have been doggy doo-doo. I was coaching there. It's been a good battle. Was that 2021 we went to OT? 19 and 21. We've actually had some good battles. Neither of those went to OT. Those were the comebacks. You had the comebacks in 19 and 21. The OT was the second time we played in 21. It was just the big route. It was Tony Collins to the end zone where the cannons at. By the way, that cannon sucks. I hate that cannon. I hate it. That was my recruiting speech every week. He talked about how as a opposing coach and player, the cannon sucks. It's like one of those things where you watch you guys score. I don't need to hear a cannon just to reaffirm of what I saw. I know they scored. It just pisses you off. Or when you're on the bench making adjustments, you hear the fucking cannon go off and you're like, boys, you're up again. When I was in my first time, I almost pissed down my leg because I didn't know you guys had a cannon before all of a sudden this cannon fires off. Off the field. Just skiing down my leg. What is that? Does anyone else in the league have something like that? No, you guys are the only ones. I got a funny story about that too. I don't think so. I don't think. What do you think? I would say Western has the train horn. Yeah, Western has the train horn. Carroll's got the, or not Carroll, CFI has the the train, rally train that comes by in the middle of the playing the games and shit. Random at times, but CFI has the motorcycle that comes out on the field. CFI's got that. Northern has the horse. That's pretty cool actually. Yeah, that's pretty cool. I don't think we, I wouldn't. You just hear the guy say, here comes the Raiders. And it's usually off sometimes and we're not running out. Oh, yeah. My experience with Southern Oregon is you guys control the fucking weather. Yeah, I kick off and I fucking just feel weird. Yeah. I wish. So I got a funny story about the cannon at Carroll. This last year I brought my mom to a game because she wanted to see our wedding venue up in Helena and I was like, we'll make it a weekend and go to the game. She didn't know that Carroll had a cannon and Carroll scored and it went off and my mom damn near had a heart attack. Like she straight up jumped and was like, fuck, what the hell? She didn't tell me. So every time Carroll scored I had to be like, hey, cannon's gonna go off. And she's like, I fucking hate that. Probably only went off like 2 or 3 times. And we scored 28 points that game. Oh. Outside of Northern that was the highest scoring game. Still scared the shit out of her. We'll get in with that. College of Idaho. Battle of the Purple. That was the one, I don't know, Tech was the one you guys needed to win. Yeah. Yeah, thanks for bringing it up. Sorry. Can we talk about how we almost got in a fight game 1 against Tech because of the run out shit? Yeah, Dev, do you ever hear about this? No. Where does Tech run out? They run out of the gate on that one side. Yeah, it's like a graveyard, right? Yeah. No one got into the fight. Yeah, so what happened was because we run out with that big play so I always am the one that hands the flag off and then I run down to the field and I handed one of our receivers the flag and he's like, what do I do? I'm like, well you run out, you're the first one out usually you wave it a little bit, you run out you run towards the middle and then I jokingly said, you gotta go spike that shit like Baker did. Baker did? No, not entirely, but I told him that jokingly and then as Tech he decides to run out as Tech was running out and we met at midfield and he has the big ass flag and he's trying to go in to fucking spike that shit. And it, yeah it almost started a fight we were like nose to nose at midfield me, Coach Brown and Purcell and Mitch were all out there trying to get our guys back, I went and grabbed the fucking flag and walked off. I was like, somebody hit somebody It was like oh shit, like I got to the side and I was like fuck, I just about started an all out roll to start the game. Bro, No, go, go. So, as a booth coach I was running up the bleachers and then by the time I get to the press box everyone's like, did you see what just happened? Fuck, I missed the whole thing. I will say I was pretty disappointed in Tech streaming that game because I didn't even get to watch it until the end of the first quarter, I was pissed. Nolan tells me after the game he was like, could you see when we almost got into a fight? I was like, no, because Tech fucking sucks with their streaming. It didn't even start until halfway through the game. Yeah, it felt like the 2017 Lindsay Wilson Southern Oregon thing. Yeah, that was good. That was good. That's how I worked for that guy. Yeah. We got face-to-face with Lindsay Wilson Vando in the quarters on the 50-yard line. I don't even like pre-game. It was Red Raiders versus the Blue Raiders. All I remember is looking forward and then just feeling the presence of something behind me and then you start hearing them bark and I turn around and our whole team is there. I go, oh, I'm late for this party. I was like, where's everybody going? We're about to get our 11-on-11. Dude, I got Pursuit. The whole line is in that. The whole line is ready for that. We got to get the video somewhere on somebody else. That was Moffy, right? Yeah. That was a great game. Has there been any other times we've gotten in a fight recently? I can think of. We're a team bunch. I know about the time that that whole shitshow happened with Northern where Gary got punched and then that dude went just down the visiting sideline just kicking over the yard markers and then this is when Van Deest was the DC at Northern. Van Deest went over to calm him down and he fucking shoves Van Deest. That's a bold strategy. He got kicked out and then on the way out he flipped off the president of and the governor. It was quite funny. That's wild. It was the starting center at Northern. That was pretty good. So he punched one of our defense linemen and then they threw a flag and then he spiked his helmet on the ground and got thrown out. He was pretty good though. I'll say that. He was pretty good. What's the difference between the Frontier and the Mid-South? Yeah, the Mid-South. It's different. To be honest, dude, a lot of good athletes. We played a couple guys this year that grad transferred to Division 1. I think the Frontier is pretty comparable up front when it comes to size. Out there, I think you guys might be a little bigger sometimes. There's some teams that we face, like Bethel had a really big offensive line. Lindsey Wilson was big in physical, but the athletes that we have on the perimeter I think are a tad better. I think that's really what we do. In play style, really, what we run on defense, we see a lot of 11th personnel, a lot of 12th, not a lot of 10th personnel. They might get in a couple of 10th personnel sets, but they still have that tied in on the field. I think that's interesting. Not as much out here, wide zone, not a lot of that running. A lot of inside zone. A little duo. One team ran duo this year. I think that's what we saw. I know you guys run wide zone-ish. I know Carol does. Southern, that's why I said ish, Mitch. I know the line guy. When Southern, AD was there, we ran a lot of it. It was a pain in the butt. In the playoffs, we got in the playoffs, we played Indiana Wesleyan. A lot of shifts, a lot of motion, things like that. A lot of flipping the pass strength. I think that's just because of the defense we play. A lot of people thought they'd take advantage of it. I'd say all in all, the pure athleticism here is tougher. Yeah. We've got to have good corners, good safeties. I think that's crucial in this place. It's good, though. It's good football, too. That's what I do like about it. It's like the frontier. Everybody beats each other up. Every game's a good game. I don't know if it's the paranoia of being on defense, but every time you go in a game, you're like, hopefully we can stop these guys. Here's a big difference, too. I don't have to take five 15-hour bus rides. I can take an hour bus ride, play the game, and an hour bus ride back home and be in my bed. That's nice. It's a lot easier. Wouldn't that be nice, Bando? Yeah, I'm pretty excited for the old travel coming up for your next fall. I bet you are. Everything's chartered? Everything's private charter planes. When you guys play Dixie, are they coming to you? Yeah. I think we go to Nevada and we'll fly to L.A. It's like a three-hour bus ride and we'll fly. Is that a big rivalry? Huge. Massive. There's a big cannon that's in front of our lobby. Whoever wins it wins the big cannon. It's just like our cannon, but whoever wins it, you paint it so it's red right now. I guess in 2019, I think there's a massive brawl after the game. Their fans are flipping you off the entire time, every time you score. It's like it reminds me of Southern Oregon Tech where you're not allowed to say Tech in the building. It's cool from Butte. You can't say Nevada and you can't say Reno with a capital R. How does one pronounce a lower case R? I don't know. That's what I was told. Even like any of the scouting reports, it's like a lower case R. I like that. I'm going to show that. Are you going to get full of the office on Monday because you said Nevada? Hopefully. What? You said Reno with an uppercase? Yeah. I think they're our biggest rival. I'm pretty sure. That's pretty cool. Yeah. It'll be good. Captain Nick played for Reno, right? Yeah. Joe's up there now, right? He coached the head coach at Nevada. He's a Montana State guy, right? Yeah. I think it was four years he coached at Montana State. Is he the header? He was the head coach right before Vegan came in. He went 4-0 against the Grizzlies. They were like, that's a tall order especially for Vegan coming in because 4-0 against the Grizzlies is a huge deal here. No doubt. Bobby Howick's running the show now. I believe he's the D.C. for him. He's from Philly. Kane, I own. A lot of Montana connections in Nevada. The D.C. at Montana left, didn't he? Yeah. He's going to be a special teams assistant for the Dolphins. That's pretty cool. Special teams, special guys. Never mind. Talking about the NFL, I want to hear a hot take from you guys. A lot of rumors have been kicking around about Justin Fields leaving Chicago. He's unfollowed the Bears. Everything like that. What do you guys think is going to happen with that? He's our future. He's our guy. You're a Bears fan, aren't you? More fun. I think Atlanta against Justin Fields. I think it would be dumb to go draft a quarterback in the first pick. I think him running the bus. I would stick with Justin Fields. I think we should go draft an offensive tackle first overall. First overall offensive tackle? And you know how those work out? They usually suck. That or Marvin Harrison, Jr. Who do you have in the receiving corps right now? You have Mooney, DJ Moore, that's about it? Yeah. They have Claypool, but Claypool. I would say draft Marvin Harrison, Jr. with the first pick. I believe we have the sixth or ninth pick. We should take Jackson Powers from Oregon because Whitehead, our center, just retired. When was the last time a center was picked in the first round? I don't know. He should do it. That wasn't Kelski. He was the sixth round pick. No, I said it wasn't Kelski. I know that. I think they should spend the whole draft on O-Line. That's what I think. And also the O-Line guy talking, which makes sense. Yeah, that's a big O-Line guy right there. Build the base. Build the foundation, dude. Coming from a Vikings fan aspect, the Bears really do need to beef up their O-Line. Yeah. It's fun winning and all, but I'd like a little bit more competition. You guys suck. What do you mean? Vikings? 3-0 to them? Huh? You won like 3-0. Did we win that game? I think so. It was not a good game, I'll just say that. What a great game. Who does no one like again? I'm the Cincinnati Bengals fan. You're a Joe Burrow guy, huh? Yeah, I do like Joe Burrow, but I like Andy Dalton. Devin's a big Baker Mayfield guy. Yeah. I would say even before he was a Buccaneer, I liked Baker. What we need to do is sign Mike Evans. That's what we have to do. I have to agree. Yeah, we can't let him go. That's a scary one. The rough one, though, right now for us is losing our O.C. I think he had some really big time play calls down the stretch. I think he held Baker a lot. It wasn't fun to see him go, but... All of our teams should be feeling a little bit more relief, I guess, as the salary cap went up about $30 million from last season. Yeah. I won't be relieved until they re-sign Kirk Cousins because I don't see any upside in any quarterbacks right now. How do you think Kirk comes back from that CUNY injury? He's a little old. Yeah, but so is Aaron Rodgers. So, if Aaron Rodgers believes that he can come back, then Kirk should be able to come back. And, it's been in the play, not really Kirk's forecast. He'd rather take a shot in the pocket and get it downfield than run for four yards. No doubt. The way the CUNY injuries are going now it seems like it's brand new science. It seems like people are coming a lot more, I feel like. Who was that? Was that Greenlaw? I just popped his name. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and then, even going into hockey, TJ Oshie, two nights ago, non-contact tore his Achilles. Wow. It's a trendy injury right now. Yeah. Those Achilles injuries suck. Doesn't that? Never mind. Never mind. I was going to say something, but never mind. I'm going to redact my statement. But, I do think that it's time for the part of the show where we do a Get Better. Ash, do you want to explain what a Get Better is? So, our Get Better segment is you get to pick person, place, thing, group of people, whatever, and you get to call them out. You get to tell them that they need to get better. I'm going to start. Let's hear it. Some fired up. I'm going to tell Michael Brunk. Brunkle Dick. You got to get better, my guy. You got to push through. Dev was on here. He's hungover, I would assume. No doubt. No excuse. Get better, Brunk. I'll go next. My Get Better is to Nolan. Just got to take a swing, dude. Got to get better in your love life. I'd like to double down on that one. I'd also like to take a shot at Nolan and his love life, and also your Madden game. Get better, bro. Oh, thanks. Thanks. I appreciate all the love. Dev, you got one? I think I'd take a shot at EA Sports. NCAA. We got to get better. This game should have dropped way sooner. I'm going to say $600. That's it. We're going to pay you guys $600 to be in the game. That's it. We had a free game. $660. I think we need to give you guys some more incentives. I think there needs to be a little bit more sugar on top. It's on play. $600, that's rent money. We need a little bit more of that. I think that's my Get Better. Nolan, I'm going to give you a break from your love life. Honestly, that came second. I'm going to beat you. It sounds like he's beating up a dead horse, but you can't go down looking either way. Yeah. We're going to get back on the horse if there ever was me being on the horse. Start at the pony. Go from there. Start at the saddle. Start at the saddle. You're going to buy one of those first. Nolan, I'll give you a break too. You and a certain photographer that we know, I guess I'll cool it for now. But my Get Better is going to be historically for the NHL, the Canadian teams need to pull their head out of their ass in the playoffs. I don't think there's been a Canadian team in the Stanley Cup Final since Gary Bettman came in as the commissioner, so Canadian NHL teams get better. Try and win the cup, not make it to the playoffs, and lose round one. Well, we appreciate all of our special guests joining us today. So, yeah. Follow us on our socials. Check Matt at the Broken Clipboard Media. Yeah, and again, thank you for all the listeners, and hope to be back on the podcast soon for the next round of bullshit that we're going to do. Thank you. Thank you. You guys have me, man. I appreciate you guys having me on the podcast. Always willing to accept another invite if you guys will have me again. I appreciate everything, and I had a blast talking to you guys, and shooting the shit a little bit, and looking forward to my next time on. Yeah. You're an open invite. Just like everybody else on here. Open invite. Be careful. Might take advantage of that open invite. See, Nolan, that's how you just swing away, brother. Well, again, thank you to all, and to all, good night. We're on the podcast right there.