Halfway to Baku!

The F1 Fun Cast podcast is focused on providing the best experience and information to listeners. They discuss topics like drivers, races, and the Formula One season. The podcast also covers the new sprint race format, which has changed this year. The format includes a qualifying session for the sprint race, which is separate from the main race on Sunday. The sprint race no longer determines the starting grid for the main race. Some drivers and fans have mixed opinions on the new format, but it aims to attract more viewers and make the race weekend more exciting. Tire strategy is crucial in the sprint race, and drivers who can manage their tires well have an advantage. Red Bull is currently dominating the season, and teams like Aston Martin and Ferrari are looking to challenge them. Baku, the next race, has a long straight which favors Red Bull's aerodynamics. Red Bull's car is known for its efficiency and speed in a straight line. The "triple DRS effect" refers to the car's I want to give our listeners the best experience possible and the best information possible and you know I want to be as factual as possible All while having a good time Welcome welcome welcome. Those are the wise words of a wise man regarding our mindset here at the f1 fun cast and what we're trying to do with this podcast and The future of our growing community. So I just would like to welcome you all back aboard the f1 fun cast You know, we are at f1 fun casts on Instagram Twitter Gmail etc. And we are now officially halfway to the next Grand Prix and And once again, I am joined here by my cousin Connor. I think I'm calling him the crew chief, but we'll see well, we'll put it up to him what he wants to be called from now on and as a full-time member of this podcast but for those of you that haven't joined us before this is the place where we try to keep f1 fun and talk about things from Drivers and their roads to Formula One to the weekend's Grand Prix, and we look forward to talking about the silly season and everything Formula One for beginning fans all the way up to well-seasoned and knowledgeable fans like the crew chief over here and someone said this week that there's a little bit of a pinky in the brain thing going on between the two of us and if You're not familiar with That cartoon from the 90s. It's the theme song says one's a little genius and the others insane And we'll leave it up to you guys to decide who is who here, but we are back to talk all about the new sprint race format here in 2023 leading up to Baku and what to look forward to in all things Formula One, so Let's just let me just plug in here with the chief and talk about it with you all It's Good to have you back. We got a lot of good feedback Last week with them. I don't know I sent you the numbers of people that were listening, and I think I Think you're kind of turning into a star out there You've definitely boosted up our numbers with your knowledge instead of me. Just talking into the wind so it's been good It's good to be back And you know I I enjoyed being able to come on the podcast and kind of share what I know and I know I don't Know the most out there because I don't you know I haven't spent 20 years in the sport and things like that But I definitely have more of a knowledge for more of like a basic fan that can kind of understand what I'm saying Well, yeah, and I think hopefully it won't be a Having you back, and it's just a regular thing. I hope so and it'll be it'll be more like Why is he doing these individual podcasts? Where's the other guy you know? But But yeah, I think I think today's a good chance to talk about the the sprint race format coming up in a couple weeks We're still two weeks from Baku from from the next Grand Prix. Is that right? Yeah, I think we've got like one more week. I think this is I think this might be coming up to One week to go so I think next weekend is when the race is the double check it, but I could be wrong Yeah, I think it's I think it's I don't think they race next Sunday I think it's a week from next Sunday. Oh, yeah, it feels like it never ends It's not and you know it's funny even the teams on their social media are really reaching for Content you know there's only so much He's put out a good video about their their crews that are working that 24-hour shift and stuff. I thought was pretty interesting It's you know as much as we're looking for the next race, and we're looking for the next Grand Prix those guys are working hard They're probably working harder during these weeks off than they are when things are in full swing. You know in those labs, and then yeah, so Azerbaijan is not until the 28th to the 30th of April stuff. I think we got another week. Oh boy, I wish I could just you know take like a Ten day sleeping pill or something and just wake up. You know the following Wednesday I wish I could take one of those for a lot of things Yeah, that's true so so Azerbaijan is going to be the first new sprint race Format right they change it up a little bit this year. It should be interesting So what is I guess let's just talk about what the changes between last year and this year and with the big Differences you'll be able to see over the weekend are so the setup for the weekend is kind of the same it's more as far as How the sprint race affects Sunday's Grand Prix So from 2021 when we when Formula One started doing the sprint races They had been using the sprint race as a way to set the grid for Sunday's Grand Prix, but Now it's gonna be it's a it's its own race now So they'll have the qualifying for Sunday's race on Friday in place of FP2 And then on Saturday morning they were FP3 we normally be in place They have qualifying for the sprint race sprint race Saturday Afternoon, and then the race on Sunday so now your your finish in the sprint race has no bearing whatsoever on Sunday for you, then that has to do with your qualifying piece on Friday afternoon is that yeah, right like there's no They're two separate things all together Yeah so now it doesn't have the sprint race doesn't have an effect on your starting position unless I'm assuming if you were to like crash out or have some kind of mechanical problems where You have to fix something that's under park for me Then you know I think that would probably be the only thing that gets effective Get a good penalty there on Sunday. It's it's why why are they doing this like it has the sprint been such a flap The people are not interested in it, or do you think it's more of a a way to get more people to the track on? Saturday what is the driving idea behind changing the format? Honestly, I I'm not really sure and I like the way that it was set up as it is right now Because you know it forces you to take risks during The race in the sprint race, and then you know if you make a mistake you're penalized for it in the race on Sunday I think that was I think that was fair But I can also understand why they're switching it up because you know they want to I guess make sure that people are actually gonna be pushing during the sprint race because if You know if you were to spin it or make a mistake, then it affects your Sunday race So most drivers probably weren't pushing 110% because they don't want to have something that affects their long-term race Right if they were satisfied with P5 in the sprint they were just kind of cruising in fifth position Yeah, exactly that would be right that makes sense it's it's interesting too because I was reading and people are saying that it's a way to It's like anything else. It's a bit of a ratings Grab to get more eyes on the product for the whole weekend You know instead of just that Sunday morning or wherever you are Sunday afternoon or night but it turns the sprint race into a second main event you know a So it's just I don't know for something That's so new to be tweaking it only a couple years in and it seems to be rubbing The drivers a little bit the wrong way, I don't know if you saw any of the quotes from I haven't seen any of the Drivers quotes yet. I have to look at that after we're done here Well, I can only assume we're not entirely pleased with it Max said something I don't have the exact quote in front of me, but it was something along the lines of well If they you know if they keep making these changes for a long time, then I won't be here for a long time Something along the lines of really and then Lando Norris came out and and kind of backed that up and I've got the quote Somewhere here, but essentially he said the same thing. He said I'm with I'm with Max on this one Although the races and the sprints can be fun. It's not really what He grew up But he's saying is he grew up with you know the qualifying was all about qualifying for the race and then the race and it was all one big thing and this kind of breaks everything up too much and The drivers certainly don't seem too thrilled with well, I'm sure that the drivers don't but from a fan's perspective I mean, it's tough to go to All three practice sessions and unless you're like a hardcore fan. You're super into the sport and You really have an understanding of what each practice session has going on during the course of it You know, you kind of lose interest. There's three sessions just three so essentially three hours of runtime that Aren't exactly super interesting then you have the people that just come for the qualifying and then for the race So they're trying to get more people into The tracks for these races on Saturday. It makes the spectacle a little bit more enjoyable from a fan's perspective, I Think that's I think that's a hundred percent true because my wife will watch the qualifying and the race, but she doesn't care You know one bit for the for the practice sessions where I check out the numbers and I look at the How teams are doing but I'd certainly if you add in another qualifying and another race It would get you know, someone like her she's going to tune in for both qualifying and both the sprint race So that doesn't make Like I'm I'm the kind of person I like to watch the practice sessions just because you know I'd like to see how the long run pace is and who has the better like they're all running different programs Some teams want to run Like heavy fuel load long long stance try and get some race pace data Other teams are trying to work out problems that they're having so they have a different program schedule and other teams are just right Right off the truck getting into like qualifying prep stuff So when you watch those is there a general pattern that happens like Fp1 teams are generally working on X Fp2 teams push more towards a race pace or is it kind of everybody uses their time in their own way? I think for the most part teams use their time You know as their own It's not like everybody does the exact same thing But I think you see a lot more of like the qualifying pace come out during Fp3 towards the later stages of it. I think fp1 and 2 are mostly used for kind of like getting the car like shut down Working out any kinks you might have Hoping that if a problem arises, it's in one of those practice sessions. You can work it out before the weekend starts It's Got to be interesting for those teams to when they do start bringing the car upgrades and they get out there and fp1 It's hugely important Right, right. Yeah attention Data gathering and a lot of breath holding I imagine in the garage No matter what no matter what the program say Back at headquarters. It's when you get out on that track. It's going to be a different animal altogether Oh, yeah, because you know, you don't want to spend millions of dollars on an upgrade package that makes you lose time instead of gaining time Yeah, yeah, you don't want to be going slower when you put an upgrade on the car Please then not only have you wasted that time and money? With that upgrade to go nowhere to go backwards But now you have to spend more money and more time to come up with another solution. So It's a gamble it is and So so with these sprint races do teams do teams like? I'll be interested to see if teams are going to Set their car if they think maybe they can squeeze out some points out of the sprint race rather than the Grand Prix if they know They've got You know They can make a move in the in a shorter race for whatever reason or in a more compact schedule Do you think teams ever will focus on just trying to score points in the sprint and kind of realize maybe you know It seems let's say a team like Williams, right? Alex Albon was running midfield at that Australian Grand Prix was a sprint race He would have finished fourth or fifth at one point could it would it be smart for a team to look to just to try to try to score points on a sprint race and Almost punt the Grand Prix if they know over the long run they're going to get You know what? I mean? Like yeah, you know, I I hear what you're saying I think for like that's why I like the older format because for the for the smaller teams it provided them a chance to get up the grid early and then send off those positions and You know not drop down the grid so much And give yourself a better starting position for the race on Sunday and now we're just basically going to have two of the normal qualifying sessions where the midfield teams are going to be in the midfield like they usually are and They're not really going to have much of an opportunity to Make gains during the actual race because they're not going to be as far up the grid right like we've seen instances where a midfield team starts really high up in the sprint or they have an epic first couple of laps and they gain a lot of positions and Depending on what the tire strategy that they're on they can usually go the whole race Well, they go the whole sprint race on one set of tires anyways, but You know if you use the soft they burn up really quick and the mediums will give you a lot more durability towards the end but Is that a rule for the sprint race? I mean It's only one set of tires or theoretically could you pit if you wanted to if conditions called for it or is it? You know Only one set for the sprint it would be unwise during normal race conditions Unless something major happened during the sprint race. I think most teams just go you know there's a split strategy you have the guys that Start out from the sauce hoping for a fast start and kind of get out ahead of the other teams that are running the harder compound so that by the time their tires are wearing out and the harder compounds are Lasting as long as they are they're not going to be caught, but there's always that it's a gamble Where you know do you want to? Sprint at the start and then run out of energy at the end, or do you want to have a nice consistent? Slow start, but you know you're going to catch them at towards the end Man, it reminds me of I did track and field for one summer when I was a kid And they put me on the floor And they put me on the 400 meter which was like a marathon for us at that time and man I thought I was the next Usain Bolt I at the 200 meter mark. I was gone. I was on those soft tires. I was gone But then you run out of steam and those guys that have been pacing themselves Come out of a spongebob cartoon or something I face planted about 50 yards to go And I remember just I couldn't believe it. I think I was crying I think my brother was making fun of me and like because I thought I had that race one I was I was planning my my future as a track star and Man those kids that were running the mediums definitely just cruise right past me in the last I'll never forget that that's a lesson so in my So let's talk about that then do you think in general because it is tire strategy is a big deal any race weekend Oh, yeah, absolutely sprint race does it seem to be to favor a medium or a soft? Or does that really depend on the track and it depends on the track and whether your car? choose through the tires or it handles the tires well like Perez you know he's a master at making tires last and last forever But if you were to put like a set of socks on a car on like a Ferrari Who this year they're just chewing through tires, they can't figure out their degradation problems They wouldn't last the same amount as check. I would be able to get out of his soft It's just you know it comes down to the driver comes down to the car and whether that Tire compound suits that car well So that's a real driver skill to though to be able to the most it's not just you're in this car This is how it's going to chew through the tires. It's a real skill absolutely and an important one to probably Oh, it's majorly important. I think Jensen Button it was He was world champion in 2009 with Braun GP and their third and immortalized team I think we should take a dive into them at some point Sure, that's a really fascinating story, but He was also very well known for not just being very good at mixed weather conditions But he was very good at managing tire wear And is that so would you say? his His counterpart on today's grid would be check. Oh you think he's known as the best tire manager on the grid Or is there I think check. Oh is definitely one of them I'm really sure who else really comes close But I would say check out for sure It's it's really it's just there's so much that goes on if you're not looking, you know that's happening during a race if you're just watching the cars go around you don't notice the How important the tires are how important? Yeah, yeah, it really is and so This weekend or cheese next weekend in Baku. What do you think? is it just going to be Red Bull runs away with the sprint and the And the Grand Prix or is there some room for a Ferrari or Aston Martin to maybe push them in the in the sprint race like do you know if this is Baku a track that favors the Red Bull setup where they'll just be Be gone before morning, or do you think? There's somewhere some team can catch them, you know you know more about tracks and their strengths and weaknesses than I do and back who has One of the longest straights on the calendar if not the longest straight on the calendar So that lends very very well to Red Bull unfortunately It pains me to say it but I think Aston Martin could give them a pretty good run for their money or at least Maybe push them to the point where they make a mistake or if there's a route some kind of reliability issue They're in position to take advantage of that That really seems to be how the How the field has to play it this year and I hope for a Red Bull to make some unforced errors rather than yes Sometimes it's like that I think that you know, I think Ferrari if they can just You know, they've got a laundry list of things that they need to work on But I think that if they can really get around to Finding a setup window where that really works for their car. They could make a little bit of a comeback I don't think they're gonna be as Far up the order as Aston Martin, but they might be do kind of out with them at the same time But as far as Red Bull, I think they're gonna be kind of untouchable for a little bit here Yeah, and I mean that's that's no fault of their own everyone says no Red Bull and but they've done it. They've done a good job really and no, they've they've done a fantastic job And you know, you're doing a good job When people are accusing you of your car being illegal or cheating or you know, all these different things I love I love I think it was Hamilton's who suggested at the last race that they weren't Pushing their car to the maximum so that the FIA wouldn't have to clamp down on them And I was just like man if this is how far ahead they are Compared to everybody else and they're not going a hundred percent with their car. That's scary That's amazing. Really? It is scary and you look at Perez in Australia Where did he started way back in the grid and just had a nice casual drive up to? Up to the you know top five and he started back in like 14th or 15th, I think so They don't they don't even have to really push it to get that no extra gear, yeah Well, they're super. They're super efficient in a straight line. I mean There's all this talk about them having almost like a triple DRS effect And I mean you see it when they were closing in on Hamilton and Russell at Jetta I mean they were it would look like they were in warp speed compared to The Mercedes as they were going by it was like it it's like an extra 30 kilometers Hamilton didn't even try to defend. I mean, you know, okay, you know that and so what is that triple DRS effect? I've heard a lot about it, but I don't really understand the triple like I Honestly, I have to take a deeper look into it myself. But from my understanding, it's just the way that the whole Aerodynamic package on the car works and making it as slippery as possible and how kind of just all the bodywork and the diffuser and the under floor and Every surface kind of plays a part in it And they're just able to extract so much efficiency from that They're finding gains everywhere then You Yeah, yeah, so then I guess that brings me to the next next question about I've heard rumblings I don't know if you have about you know, the ground effect era may be doing away with DRS in general And I don't know, you know, I don't nothing nothing's set in stone about that But it seems like they're trending towards student trending towards getting rid of DRS and sometime in the next few years Yeah, why would they do that? So that was a big Kind of like one of the big promises or the big thoughts around this new era of ground effect cars was that With their ability to follow closer through corners and through high-speed corners more importantly They'd be able to follow closer down a straight and get a better slipstream effect and be able to pass without having to use DRS like You know like they always do But what we're seeing is that The older cars that the previous generation of cars created so much dirty air so much turbulence from the downforce they were creating all the little barge boards and winglets and all kinds of Crazy bits on the car that were made to extract as much downforce as possible They were creating a big hole in the air. So if you look back at like 2021 and before with the older cars The slipstream effect is massive, you know There'll be a mile behind the guy on a straight and then by the end of it. They're almost right next to him They they got so much slipstream effect. But the problem that there's I think they're seeing with this car is that because it's cleaned up the dirty air so much and You're you are able to follow closer but That takes away a lot of that slipstream effect as well. So you're not getting as much of a tow You're not getting as much of a of a draft off the person that's ahead of you so it's much more difficult to Get up alongside without the DRS. It's still I think it's still possible But there's has to be some tweaking involved, but I think that we're gonna see DRS for a little bit longer And you know, I I haven't watched I've watched old races, you know without the DRS But just my live racing experience has all been in order to pass another to overtake another car You have to have that DRS wing open and to me. It seems unfathomable that you could ever ever get in front of someone else without that DRS, but I Don't know it seems so so for a purist is DRS kind of considered a gimmicky Solution to a problem if you're an old-time f1 fan from back in the day, or yeah I mean The thing is that you're not gonna be able to please everybody, right? I mean People were complaining if there's not enough passing in the sport. This is dating back like late like 2008 2009 2010 They introduced DRS. I think it was 2010 or 2011 and The slot gap used to be much narrower so it wasn't as big of an effect as it is now Interesting and but now that we have DRS and the DRS passing there's been more passing But now the company is that it's only DRS passing Right. It's a guy can sit there if he's in a faster car on fresher tires All he has to do is sit there until he gets to the DRS zone and then just breeze by the guy There's no right waiting for like making it a Late-breaking move down the inside sending it on a corner that you would never see a pass. It's just wait until that straight, you know That's risk-taking too. Yeah, probably with the with the passing. Yeah. Yeah, it's definitely less risk-taking I think that if they were to maybe close up that slot gap when the DRS opens a little bit because I mean you look at it now and Like you could fit a foot you could fit a foot in there Whereas if you look at it back in like 2011 2012, it's a very small gap compared to now So maybe that's the answer. Yeah, I think if they could maybe just close the gap a little bit it would make I mean, I think the overtaking a little bit more difficult But you wouldn't also be passing the guy a quarter of the way down a straight You'd be passing in late as you're getting to that breaking zone So there'd be a little bit more of an element of bravery to a pass Instead of just cruising by the guy ducking back onto the racing line and see you later Right, which is what we see now I mean you can almost tell guys just wait, you know They're willing to sit behind you for two three laps So they get that right spot with the right DRS and it doesn't matter That they claim that position earlier or that they fight for it It is Interesting, although I would like to see With less overtaking how much more intense qualifying and how much more important qualifying is at that point? Without you know, like you say before when people complained that there wasn't enough Overtaking and there wasn't enough passing that I'd like to watch those qualifying sessions So see how just just how important that is because next we're stopping right now in his Red Bull could qualify P13 and so likely finished at the top of the podium. Yeah Without having to take too much risk, you know, I look back at I know you're a Mercedes fan so this might hit home a little bit but During their run I mean they were so far ahead of everybody else that all they really had to do was make a car that had great Single lap pace for qualifying get on a pole or near the front and they'd be gone But when you get to like 2018 2019-2020 When they started to kind of be caught up a little bit by everybody else and on the off chance that they weren't Upfront or they got stuck in traffic after a pit stop. They had a lot of trouble passing people Their car wasn't very good when it was in traffic, but once it was in clean air, it was the fastest thing on the track so Their car was you know obviously, it's the fastest car in the grid, but It is argued that they were really only building it for one purpose for Qualifying that pace and then we're qualifying. Yeah, check out during the race So so what happened in that time that kind of closed the gap? Down from Mercedes or up from Red Bull Ferrari. What was the main was there a technical change? Was there a regulation change what what closed that gap up so much or was it just time like that? That's what's bound to happen over time It kind of happens over time you know, there's always a big gap at the beginning of a regulation change where one team gets a step ahead and The rest are kind of catching up. I mean we saw it in 2014 at the beginning of turbo hybrid era and there's a lot of controversy around whether Mercedes had been tipped off about the new engine regulations and They got a kind of a head start on the engine, which is why they were so far ahead I'm not going to delve into that because that's a whole nother big story Yeah, it's interesting there's some homework for me right there though, yes, I'm reading to bat. Yeah It's it's just it's fascinating because these changes in unlike any in I don't want to say traditional sport But you know a sport with a team and not an auto sport you don't see these changes coming as often and as as Drastically as you do in Formula One, you know like Major League Baseball is going through big changes this year for the first time and It seems like a hundred years and people are freaking out And it just seems like in Formula One and people expect everybody's right. He's a purist was soon as there's a world change it's yeah, and that but it seems like that comes with part of the territory if you're going to be a Formula One fan you're going to have to know that every ten years or so things are going to be different Yep, and you have to go with it Yeah, and usually a lot of the a lot of the times is a rule changes brought on to end some kind of an era of dominance Like I look back to like 2004 going into the 2005 season where Ferrari and Michael Schumacher They just win Schumacher seventh World Championship. They're on like five in a row doubles Being constructors and drivers championships in 2005. There's a rule a couple of rule changes There were significant that directly impacted Ferrari because they were kind of aimed at Slowing them down They made the front wing be a little bit higher off the ground And you can only use one set of tires for the entire race where the previous year Bridgestone was making tires for Ferrari where you know, they could run qualifying laps the entire race and You know, they could make three or four pit stops in a race and it didn't matter because They could just outpace everybody. They just blitz people But then in 2005 they had to completely redo the rubber On the Bridgestone's to be able to last an entire race and they just couldn't figure it out and That's when we saw the the changing of the guard from Fernand from Michael Schumacher to Fernando Alonso And Schumacher never went on to win another drivers championship after that, right? No, he did not he came close in 2005 and 2006 and then but those are the two years that Nando went two years in a row Well, I like that you you brought us to the 2005 tire changes because I've got a feeling that's going to be something the tires In the 2005 US Grand Prix are going to be a big subject of our next Big controversy big storyline there's a lot that came from that and there's a lot of that was one of the big reasons why Formula one didn't re-up with Indianapolis for their re-up their contract with Indianapolis after 2007 I've been I've been researching that Grand Prix and I've never spent so much time watching videos of how tires Banking and how much grip and pull and friction and it is amazing and it's People think that driving on a banking is the exact same as driving on a flat piece of road it is it is not there's such a Much different dynamic and much different physics at play that really affect the way that a car and the tires react And a lot of credit generated in the tires. I should say Yeah, those people that you know So it really changes the way I look at even when I see tire commercials on TV when they're they're trying to sell me You know tires for the snow tires or rain tires and things like that. They realize how much Work and technology and information goes into them. You think it's crazy and I really think about it until you really look into it No, because you just they're just for most people it's just something you slap on your car once they go bald. Yeah, and Yeah, it's I'm looking forward to talking about that one because that's gonna be Yeah, and it's it's it's like it's got some science it's got some silliness it's got a little bit of politics It's got a little bit of everything going on Oh, yeah, I can't imagine though if you were 2005 if you're a ticket holder to that You might have been being there on the grid and watching what I think they had like 22 21 cars Yeah 20 or 22 cars at the start and then come around the formation that only 60 six of them pull up onto the grid Anything like you see the formation lap and you think hey, this is gonna be fine And then these guys start pulling off. It's like they pulled the rug out from underneath you Yeah, they didn't brutal, you know, they didn't really tell anybody either. They were just going All right. Well all the Michelin guys that kind of have like an inside Like an inside joke, you know why we're only they knew about it Only the teams that were running Michelin stuffed into their pits and six cars started the Grand Prix And you know, we'll talk about it more next week, but I can't had on the season and then personal Histories, it's great. It's a silly story and a fun thing Maybe not a fun memory for some people, but it's funny to look back on now, you know 18 years ago. Wow. Yeah So what else you got for me on on Baku or the sprint race or you got anything else in terms of I think that's Those are really the big talking points. I want to bring up during this during this episode I'm definitely working on some other ones. I'm doing some research before I start spouting some knowledge about those Yeah, no, it's it's great. And I love having having you do this and being able to catch up You know, I want to I want to give our listeners the best experience possible and the best information possible And you know, I want to be as factual as possible All while having a good time That's that's what I'm hoping for and I'm in for me You're helping me learn so then I can turn around and talk to someone at the grocery store about it and sound like I know What I'm talking about because I've already had people ask me questions like oh, yeah What do you think about this and I you know, I'm still learning I should put a badge on my shirt that says I'm a learner Like like how they have over in Britain with a giant the big L's They put on the back of the cars Maybe that should be my badge on Twitter for now until I can Yes, pretty good, so yeah, I think I'm looking forward to next week though, it's gonna be a good one and Well, we'll definitely look forward to touching base around that absolutely And with that I think we are concluding our Second cooperative edition here of the f1 fun cast and please check us out on Twitter Instagram Gmail for questions or whatever you've got for us going forward and You know, feel free. 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