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This program is about homeopathy and the benefits of using it as a complementary treatment alongside other medical procedures. The host interviews a homeopathic practitioner who explains the holistic approach of homeopathy and how it focuses on addressing the individual rather than just treating the disease or problem. The practitioner emphasizes the importance of taking responsibility for one's health and understanding what the body is telling us. They also discuss the need for doctors to spend more time with patients and be open to alternative treatments like homeopathy. The practitioner shares examples of how homeopathic remedies can be used before and after medical procedures to support healing and alleviate pain, without relying solely on painkillers or antibiotics. This program was produced by and first broadcast on Radio Kidnappers, a volunteer-based community access station. For more information go to www.radiokidnappers.org.nz. Thanks to New Zealand On Air for making this program available through funding the Access Internet Radio Project. This program was produced by and first broadcast on Radio Kidnappers, a volunteer-based community access station. You're tuned to Radio Kidnappers. Voice of Hawke's Bay. This is a program called Homeopathy On Air. And it's our pleasure, as always, to have in the studio Heidi Beck from Five Homeopathy. And, Maggie, how you going, Heidi? I'm very good, Ken. You got all those words out perfectly today. I know. Sometimes I fall over those words. Can you believe it? Funny how you can do something a lot and never quite get it right sometimes, isn't it? Yeah. Five Homeopathy was always a stumbling block. We're there. You try and say that ten times in a hurry. Anyway, Thrive Homeopathy. Why did you call your business that? Well, I just wanted to find a name that represents my intention. And my intention is to help my clients thrive, to be well, mentally, emotionally and physically. And I want to do that holistically and specifically with homeopathy. So just put those two words together and there you go. Now, you've been a homeopathic practitioner for many years. Well, since 2012. So, yeah, six years now. So you've been a practitioner for six years, but you've been a user of homeopathic remedies for a lot longer than that. Yes. Approximately 30 years. Yeah. Yeah. That's a long time. And do you exclusively use homeopathic remedies or do you ever say, let's get on the canvas and get some Panadol? Well, very, very seldom, but I'm an advocate. If you're holistic, that means all inclusive. Sure. And I believe that there is room and need for all modalities. And thank goodness we have doctors and thank goodness we have surgeons and thank goodness we have antibiotics. But thank goodness we also have alternative medicine and medicine such as homeopathic. And you mentioned a good word there. You used that word holistic because what you do is more than just treating the problem of the moment. Exactly. Yeah. When I come to see you, you don't just say, take this, see you later. You investigate what's happening in your life. Yes. And what has led to the problem. Yes. How is the problem affecting you mentally, emotionally? Yeah. And also your individual symptoms. So homeopathy is not about treating the disease or the problem. It's about helping the person and addressing the individual with a disease or complaint. Indeed. And that's a very different approach. And you also are an advocate in the main of homeopathy being complementary to other treatments. Not necessarily just Western treatments but other things like acupuncture. Yeah, absolutely. And I believe that all practitioners and doctors should have the best interest of their patient or client at heart. And everyone has boundaries. Every modality has boundaries where you just can't help beyond that. And so you need to have the wisdom and the humbleness to refer on and to say, well, you know, I can take you this far on your healing journey. But then please do see someone else. Maybe diet nutritionist. Yes. Or the doctor, the specialist. Get some tests done. Get this done. And maybe you do need an operation. But still, it doesn't mean you don't need me anymore or that homeopathy can't help you. Possibly after the operation or to make the operation go smoother, we can support you through that as well. Absolutely right. Now, before we get on to today's topic, which is as mentioned, Dave, just touched on is homeopathy after medical procedures. You're a registered practitioner, aren't you? Yes, I am. Yes. And I think it's important because that means you belong to a body, and that is a professional body that guarantees a minimum of education and ongoing education. You know, we have to prove every year that we keep our knowledge up to speed and the code of ethics that we abide by. We also have support from the Council of Homeopathy. So, it's a two-way street, and I think it's all beneficial for the clients. And you want to go to a master builder who's part of a registered body. Why wouldn't you do that with a practitioner? Exactly right. Okay. Today, we're talking about homeopathy after medical procedures. So, talk us through the process. So, we've come out of an operation. Why would we want to use homeopathic remedies when someone will come and say, look, take this? Well, see, that's exactly the problem. Because I think we just rely, the doctor in white, and I remember my grandma saying, but the doctor said. Yes. You do not question what the doctor said, and you don't understand what he's saying. It just goes over your head. You don't know those words. But it sounds mighty good, and you just go home and you say, the doctor said. I don't know what I have. I forgot. I can't pronounce it, and I have to take that. And I think that's what I'm doing with these kind of shows. I want people to understand what's going on in their bodies. And so, with that, basically take a little bit more responsibility for what's going on and understand what your body is telling you. I think, though, that your mother probably hit the nail on the head. And most likely, every person out here who's listening to this program, when they go and see their doctor, they never question what the doctor says. He says, this is what's happening? Yes. Go and do this and get on with it. Don't get me wrong. I'm not really trying to blame or put the doctors in a bad light. I really feel for them. They get 10-minute slots, right? And that's all they've got. You don't have time to really go in-depth and explain and explain again. And, you know, the grandma who just can't hear right. And so they're in a very difficult position as well. But I still wish that there'd be a little bit more openness, a little bit more understanding, and maybe respect for what we do. Do you think doctors need to be... What's the word I'm looking for, Reba? They need to spend more time with their clients, like you do. You don't just come and see you for 10 minutes. When we come and see you, it's for at least an hour, isn't it? Oh, yeah. And you can find out a whole lot about a person in an hour. But like you said, in and out with the doctor and maybe just a bit of a chin-wag might find out what the real problem is other than what's just showing at the moment. If they can't do that or don't want to do that, if they would only at least acknowledge that that is important and that not everyone needs or wants that, but lots of patients will need that extra support. And if they were then to be open to homeopathy or naturopathy or acupuncture and refer these people on, then that would be good enough. Yeah, okay. So tell us about painkillers or laxatives and antibiotics and who wants a laxative? No one I know. Okay. Well, the reason I thought I'd talk about this is because lately I have had so many people come saying, well, I've got this procedure happening. Like one lady is going to Thailand for a huge medical dental procedure that she can't afford here. So she wants some support for the anticipation before the procedure. So I gave her some jessamium for that. And I put a little kit together for her. I gave her a jet lag combo so that she gets over the flying and the time change a little bit better. Then I also gave her some arnica for the healing afterwards, the stiff jaw when your mouth is open so long for the bleeding. I gave her a remedy, hypericum, that will help if there's shooting nerve pain after the operation. So, you know, we spoke in depth about what will be done. And I just put the kit together according to her personal requirements. The other reason I'm talking about this is that our daughter just had a dental surgery and had her wisdom teeth extracted. And, yes, there was a 20-minute in-depth pre-op. Then we signed and said, okay, we're going to do this. But we never saw the doctor again. And we went out with a prescription for antibiotics. We had painkillers. It must have been enough for a horse, you know, a huge box. And codeine, which is a highly addictive drug as well. And the instructions with the nurse were, here, take this home and take it. So we went home. And my daughter, she made me promise to give her the codeine because she wants something really strong and she's afraid of the pain. So I gave her one codeine. And, by gosh, she was just so out of it. And she said, no, Mom, I don't want any more codeine, but I want those painkillers. So I gave her one round of painkillers. And then I tricked her a little bit. I gave my homeopathic remedies. And she said, are the four hours up? I need another. And I said, no, honey, it's only two hours. You still have to wait. Oh, okay. You know, so I slept on. So six hours later, are the four hours up? And I said, no, no, no, honey, are you in pain? No, I'm not in pain. And she was like, oh, all right. So, in the end, it was like ten hours. And she still hadn't needed a painkiller. I was just giving her homeopathic medicines. And the other good thing is we were told that we're going to have problems with blood socket. And, oh, big thing. So we're like, oh, my God, it's going to be horrible. No, we didn't have that problem because she was taking Arnica. It healed beautifully. Within a few days, she was really fine. And we were also sent home with prescription for antibiotics. And I said, no, honey, I don't care what the doctor said. We're not taking antibiotics because we don't have an infection. And antibiotics will kill all the bacteria in your system, the good and the bad. And we know the medical profession has acknowledged and has said we are overusing antibiotics. Absolutely. And people will be dying from very simple infections. We have to stop overusing antibiotics. Now, this is where criticism comes in on my part. Why wasn't it said that here is a prescription and if we have an infection, then take your antibiotics? If you don't, you don't need them. But we weren't told that. And I'm sure every normal person who is not very informed about complementary health will go, oh, my God, the doctor said I have to. And I just wish there would be a little bit more openness around that. I wonder if this wind the clock back. You mentioned that your friend who's going to Thailand to get her teeth done and she was a bit nervy about it, so you gave her some, what do you call it, risky remedy? Well, I gave her that as well. You know, delcemium is a great remedy for anticipation anxiety because she tends to get loose bowels and lots of urination right before. So that's a very good remedy for that. Okay, you call it anticipation. Are you allowed to call it a tranquilizer? Why don't you call it a tranquilizer? Well, a tranquilizer, that sort of will knock you out. No, it doesn't do that at all. You're still fit and happy. It's just that that level of anxiety that will affect the nervous system to make those bowels and bladder work overtime, it just relaxes that. So it's, yeah, it's not quite a knockout. You use that sort of nice soft terms for your potions rather than, you know, this is a tranquilizer or this is an antidepressant. You don't call them those, do you? No. Why don't you call them those? Well, because I think a tranquilizer, that is a forceful knockout. Knock you out. What about antidepressants? Same thing. Yeah. I think actually it's a bit deceiving because anti means non-depressed. You are not non-depressed. You're just so spaced out that you're really in nowhere land and often people on antidepressants say, I have to stop taking this because I'm not really here and I want to live, I want to be here, but I don't want to feel depressed. And homeopathy just takes that different approach. It's not about anti, about doing something or forcing the body into something. It's supporting you to deal with why are you depressed and what can we do and shift that whole perspective. Sure. And I don't suppose you recommend uppers either. What do you call uppers? Well, maybe a glass of champagne in a spa pool, that's an upper. That is an upper. Yeah. What are some of the other options that you've got to help deal with pain management after we've had a procedure? Well, the other lady that came to me, she had a hip replacement and she was complaining of severe constipation due to all the pain medication, so a side effect of the medication and also feeling quite spaced out since being under anesthetic and not really back to her normal self. So, those two components fit very well to a remedy, opium. Right? Yeah. So, I basically gave her a homeopathic opium. Wow. And immediately she just felt that spaciness. Her mind and thoughts, everything became clear again. It's like the principle of homeopathy is like cures like. So, the anesthetic basically put her into this spaced out neutral zone and that's exactly what opium does. If you go to the opium den or watch the movies. Is that what happens? I only know it from watching movies back in the day. You know, the Chinaman, the opium den. That's right. So, that's where I know. And, yeah, so basically by taking that which is like symptoms and she immediately recovered from that. Now, the other thing that people often are not told or aware of, the anesthetic will sort of stop even your gut motility, the peristaltic motion and movement of your gut. Yeah. And to kick start that sometimes takes time. So, constipation, gas, bloating, which can be quite painful, is a side effect of an operation. And this opium just cleared it beautifully. Now, we had then the other problem. She called me the next day and said, Well, I took your pills and I'm very grateful. My thoughts are clear. But I have had the runs, you will not believe. So, I said, well, let's just wait a day and see if the body needs to clear out what has been going on for a week. And if it doesn't clear, we can look at the next remedy. And, yeah, she did need another remedy to deal with that which had an emotional component around the whole anxiety and restlessness and debilitation of the operation. And that worked very well as well. Why do you mention that word opium? And, of course, everyone is going to grab hold of that word, aren't they? So, okay, well, I mean, and it gives you a clear head. Who doesn't want that? I'd love to have some of it myself. And you mentioned the opium dense. Yes. Someone thinking about opium homeopathic, can you have an addiction to it after a while? No. To monosophic. No, I guess that's where the critics always come in. How can homeopathy even be anything because it's nothing, right? So, a substance has been all toxicity, all actual chemicals of a substance has been so removed through the dilution process. But it's sort of like the energetic information of it remains. And, thank goodness, there are scientists out there with quantum physics that are now starting to be able to prove how atoms contain information. So, it's the information or the energy of that opium substance that remains in the homeopathic medicine, not the opium. So, it's safe to give to a baby, for example. Yeah, right. So, there's no chance of anyone getting addicted to anything like that. No. So, it's not the cheap fix instead. No. I suppose you'd have to drink about 17 litres of it to get above what you did. No, not even that. No, no. Not going to work. Not going to work. Okay, what about homeopathic remedies for stuff like, I don't know, surgical incisions, severe concussions, catheters, all that sort of thing? Oh, yeah. That's a big one. Those are very similar situations. It's sort of, if you have a catheter for a long time or a surgical cut, it's an incision that sort of crosses the boundary, my personal space, an invasion, an intrusion, and sometimes it's almost like an emotional indignation that people can have with that, you know, wow, that's really gone into my deep personal space, or it's the way they're treated in the hospital, you know. The nurses are overworked. I feel for them. You know, they're just running around, trying to deal with so many patients and have so many papers to fill out and rules to follow that they don't have time to nurse and to give people that love and care, and some just need a little bit more than others. So those kind of people might feel very indignant if the doctor comes by, you know, five minutes, yep, looking good, off he goes. So if they're emotionally feeling indignant and they've had a catheter, a cut, there's a beautiful remedy called staphysaguria. It's a plant, which I've given a few times, and people have really recovered quickly. So from the physical, the bladder infection that might come from that catheter, but also on the emotional level. So it's beautiful that it goes hand in hand. What would happen though, I mean, let's presume I've had a big operation, I'm going to be in hospital for some weeks or sometimes even months, and I'm a friend of yours, and I say, geez Heidi, what about some of that homeopathic stuff? If you brought that into the hospital for me, would there be a discussion between me, you and my doctor for me to be able to use it, or would they say, no, you're not having any of that stuff, this is what we've got. Are they open to... Unfortunately, many are not. But luckily, more and more are. So again, you just have to try and be as open as possible, and I do encourage people, and especially when the doctor looks at the patient a week later and says, oh my gosh, wow, you've recovered very well and quickly, and I say, people, just tell them what you've done. Tell them that you just took homeopathy and not... On the side, yeah. And the more they hear that from the recovered, the more they're inclined to go, oh, maybe there is some value in it. So openness is important, especially if you are on other prescription medication, because we don't want any interference or side effects with blood pressure medication, things like that. Is it possible that the homeopathic remedy could have a side effect with other medication in a hospital? With things like, well, with painkillers, for example, the more homeopathic relief from pain, the less you're just going to require, because they do come by and say, oh, would you like, and you go, no, I'm sweet, don't need anything. So, you know, that's just a positive development. Other things, if you are taking something to lower your blood pressure, but you're also on blood pressure medication, then you do have to monitor, because you're improving, so that dose might be a bit too high. So it's not interfering per se, but it will require adjusting. Just out of time, Heidi, just to remind our listeners, we want to come and see you. Where are you? Well, clinic is Thrive Homeopathy, number one, Lampton Road, Hospital Hill in Napier, 021-33-5233. Or you can check out the website. All the information is there, thrivehomeopathy.co.nz. Oh, Facebook, I've got Facebook as well. So thrivehomeopathy.nz. And you've got a song? I do. It's sort of counter to what we're trying. We don't want it to hurt. We want to heal and recover quickly and pain-free. But the song would be the opposite, Let It Hurt by Rascal Flatts. You know that? I don't know that. You don't? Well, check it out. I thought it was cute. Don't worry about that. And what's your thought for the week? Well, I thought pain is inevitable, right? You fall down, you have an operation, you've got pain. But the suffering is optional. What a pool of wisdom that is. I think so. Good on you, Heidi. It's always a pleasure. Look after yourself. We'll talk to you same time, same place next time. Absolutely. Take care. 7.42 in the morning, 8 seconds before it all seems thin. Put your best faith on for the world, Take another smile and just pretend That you're just putting off the pain. Nothing's ever really gonna change. So let it hurt, let it be. Let it take you right down to your knees. Let it burn to the worst degree. May not be what you want, but it's what you need. Sometimes the only way around it Is to let love do its work. Let it hurt, yeah, let it hurt. 3.28 in the morning, Counting up the spaces between the flames. You're getting used to the rocks at the bottom. Your heart goes numb, but the loneliness stays the same. And that's the price you're bound to pay. There's really nothing anyone can say. Oh, there's only just one way to let it hurt. Let it be. Let it take you right down to your knees. Let it burn to the worst degree. May not be what you want, but it's what you need. Sometimes the only way around it Is to let love do its work. So let it hurt, yeah, let it hurt. Thanks to New Zealand On Air for making this program available through funding the Access Internet Radio Project.