Q1-19840428-Larry_Rosenberg-UNK-learning_how_to_live_part_i-1505 Leandra Tejedor (1)

Talk: 19840428-Larry_Rosenberg-UNK-learning_how_to_live_part_i-1505.json Start_time: 00:46:00 Display_question: Is there a relationship between thinking and fear? Keyword_search: Zen, terror, therapy, crying jag, concept, learn, thinking, fear, ripen, spiritually Question_content: Questioner: Yeah, well, I'm not sure I can put it into words, but I'll give it a try. Larry: Good. Questioner: Without boring you with personal details. The last, say, four years have been you name it, it's happened. And I…I had been quite active in Zen, at one point, but I cut that off. I cut off everything. And made the transition for awhile, but I was in a state of terror coming here. I mean, I've been in therapy, working on the big thing. We're coming to the weekend, but we're going back, and picking up pieces, the whole nine yards. And what hit me…and I thought, really what my big terror was, that I was going to sit here… and go on a crying jag. That I was going to dredge up all this old pain, and old misery, and you hear the sobs, and the snot bubbles, thoroughly disgrace myself. And what I found happened instead, at some point this afternoon was, I've done it. All I had left was the fear of going through it. And I've been saying, no way I'll get through, sometimes we're going to do this stuff. Already done it. There's nothing to go through. I did it. I was just hanging on to the concept or something. I don't know. Anyway, it's interesting. But I'm okay right now. Life is sweet. I guess it's going to continue to be. Larry: Okay, what did you learn? I hear you and it's wonderful. What did you learn? Because include the whole thing that you went through. You really have already said it. Questioner: Yeah it’s like…I was more afraid of what I was going to do than what… I am. I mean, I'm actually a very strong lady. I did it… and I dealt with everything… and I guess I kept thinking there had to be more. Larry: Thinking… Questioner: Yeah, well that's it…definitely my hitchup. There had to be more because I couldn't possibly have achieved it, right. Larry: So, is there some relation between thinking and fear? Questioner: Obviously. Larry: Right. So, if we understand thinking…what might happen? If we really start to examine thinking… Questioner: Promotes fear. Larry: Yes. So that you don't have to focus on the particular… everyone's afraid of different things. I'm afraid of the dark. I'm afraid of the light. I'm afraid of height. But very often the fear has... there's something in common, is that it's an anticipation that something's going to happen. And usually… very often it doesn't happen. By the way, if it should turn out, see because you don't know with this stuff, that you have to have crying jags, with snot, and all that stuff you describe, it's fine here. There's no etiquette here, except no one impinging upon other people's person. There has been crying in this room, many times. Not only that, those poor trees, what they've had to listen to, over the last ten years. So you can just go off into the woods, this is for anyone…and just wail at the moon. Because it releases… it's intentionally ripening us. It's helping us to really, ripen, spiritually. That's why we're doing it. Thank you. Yeah. End_time: 00:49:58