Episode 10

The hosts of the Lost Chiefs Podcast discuss their week and the ongoing March Madness basketball tournament. They also announce plans to create merchandise for the podcast, including bracelets and possibly t-shirts. They then discuss a quote from John F. Kennedy about the importance of living by your words and not just uttering them. They reflect on the significance of being true to your values and actions, and the importance of self-reflection and self-awareness. I don't want the whole picture to take up the entire page. This is what I wanted. Oh! I've got to make it smaller so I can use it. We are one page. Okay. Are you prepared? No, not prepared at all. Why aren't you prepared? I haven't really studied this quite enough. Love it. That's actually pretty cool. That's JFK. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the Lost Chiefs Podcast. I'm Nazario Pingello. And I'm Cole Bissett. And it is March 24th. The madness is going crazy right now. You guys are currently in the second round of March Madness if you are a college basketball fan or follower. Or if you're just, you know, listening to people talk about sports. The March Madness is happening. But, you know, today is, you're going to hear a little bit of our madness. You know, the Lost Chiefs Podcast. You know, we're talking, we talk a lot of madness. But we try to, you know, take all the madness and give it into something, you know, something profound. Something reasonable and intelligent. So, maybe you guys can learn a lesson. But, for today, Cole Bissett, would you like to, you know, talk about your week? It's been, you know, a week since you came back from the beach, back to school. How are you feeling about that? A little stressed out? You feeling good? Any exams, tests, you know? This week was low-key. I got back. Homework, huge. It was miserable coming back from the beach because you're in this state of vacation. And then you come back and then you're back in the state of school and it's just homework every day. But I had a decent week overall. It was pretty good. I enjoyed it. Like I already said, March Madness has started. And so that's pretty much what this week has been. A lot of March Madness. And one of my brackets is doing phenomenal. I only have two. One of them is doing great and the other one is absolutely tanked. But, you know, we live and we learn. And we hope my final four stays in the bracket. We do not hope. You hope. Yes, I very much hope my final four stays in the bracket. We have different final fours. Who's your favorite? Well, two of them have already fallen off. Who were they? Kansas and Kentucky. What did I say we had to bet on? You did not say. You said something about Kansas and not Kentucky. I told you not to bet on Kentucky. And I picked Kentucky. Big deal. Anyways, back to really important things like the podcast. Do you want to throw shade over here? Anyways. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I can talk about some happy news about the podcast. Do you want to do it? Sure. All right. So Nizaro and I, after a brief consensus, have talked about doing merch for this podcast for the last couple weeks. We just debated on whether we were going to do it or not. And recently I posted on our Instagram story and asked you guys what sort of merch you would want and if you would even want merch. And the winning votes were bracelets. And so what we plan on doing is, for those who are students at Bama Catholic, we're going to try to put up a poster with a QR code. But what we also plan on doing is I will post it on my Instagram story when we get the bracelets in. And I'm going to ask you to share our podcast to other people. And I'll need you to DM me. DM the Lost Sheep podcast and just say, Lost Sheep. And we will send you a bracelet your way. And who knows? We might print some stickers as well. So one of those might be sent your way as well. And then over the summer, if Budweiser starts to get settled in, we may decide to do giveaways. And I know a lot of you guys voted on t-shirts as well. And I might try to include that in one of the giveaways and just print one and see how that goes. Because I think it would be kind of cool to have a Lost Sheep podcast t-shirt. So we might do that. It just depends on where we are in life and how financially stable we are. He always likes to mention that. He's a college student. His nose is broke. Oh, yeah. Anyway, so we're going to jump into our... Whoa, whoa, whoa. What? How was your week? Oh, it was solid. You know, I just watched March Madness. I mean, you told me that you were going to watch one-eighth of the tournament. And I've already gotten to watch more than that. So my mission has been accomplished. What do you have watched? There's been, so far, let's see. There's eight games today. There was eighth Thursday, eighth Friday. Sixteenth Thursday, sixteenth Friday, eighth yesterday. So there was four games in three days. And there's 63 in total. I've gotten you to watch at least, like, 20 of those games. Which is over, like, a third of the tournament. So. Okay. I hear that. I hear that. Yeah. So I accomplished my mission. Whatever. Anyways, to the podcast, I just want to read a quote from John F. Kennedy. As we express our gratitude, we must never forget that the highest appreciation is not to utter words, but to live by them. One more time. From John F. Kennedy. As we express our gratitude, we must never forget that the highest appreciation is not to utter words, but to live by them. Take it away. Since you put the pressure on me to start it off, I might as well start it off with a bang. So let's go ahead and dive straight into it. I want to break it down piece by piece. So as we express our gratitude, so everyone has different signs of affection, signs of love. You know, a lot of people take those tests online to see what they're good at. I think you should know what you're good at just by yourself, you and your relationships with other people around you. For me, I like giving gifts. I think it's the most satisfying thing to see joy on other people's faces or something that I brought to them. And then the next part is, we must never forget that the highest appreciation is not to utter words. So it is important, like I said, because people deserve compliments. People deserve that every day. And as many times as they can get it, you want to compliment somebody the second you recognize it. And that's important, but he's saying that it's also important to live by your words as well. And what does that mean? What does it mean to live by your words? It means if you're going to proclaim yourself as a Christian in the world and you want to come out as this really holy individual, this person who is giving their all to Christ, giving their all for, I mean, like we are trying our best to be holy for you guys, and by no means are we any better than anyone else, but we are trying to live by our words. Like we are trying our best after this podcast to go before this podcast, after this podcast, for the rest of our life to live like good Christians. Now, we've talked about it plenty of times. We fail. That's what we do. We're human. But our goal is still to portray our heart to Jesus and portray our heart to you guys as good Christian men. And so that's our plan, and that's what he's trying to say in his quote. Now, he may not obviously be referencing this towards Christianity. Even though he was, I believe, the first Catholic president of the United States. Yeah, so you never know. He could have been. And maybe that's what he was trying to get off. Maybe that was the message behind it. But that goes with day-to-day life as well. If you're going to get on to somebody about something, say, like, I get on to my friend about doing something, and like a week later, I do the exact same thing. It makes me hypocrite to my words. And I think that's what he's trying to say. It's important. Know the words. Know what your words are going to be before you say them. Like, prepare yourself. You've got to think before you say something that's going to contradict something else. Because if you're saying something that's going to contradict something else, and you're wrong, and you go against those words, like a week later, that makes you a hypocrite. And you don't want to be a hypocrite. You want to live and stand by your words. That's okay to be wrong. Don't get me wrong about that. But you've just got to learn to live by your words. And take action with it. The one part about being a hypocrite is, I think, very hard at times. Because, you know, as you just pointed out in the Bible, talking about, you know, don't call your brother out for this when you have, you know, a log in your eye of, like, the same thing. And that Bible verse is what I get from what you're saying. And it's, like, important to do that, to remember that, that, you know, look at yourself first. Make sure that you're checking on yourself if you're realizing things in other people. And then maybe when you realize those things in other people, you may think, okay, maybe I'm seeing this in other people because I know that there's something in myself that I need to fix that I keep seeing in other people. So just take those times when that happens, you know, reflect on that, look at yourself, and see why you're thinking those things about other people. Because it all comes back to ourselves. I remember the, I forget if he's a psychologist or a therapist, came into Bama Catholic, and he said that, you know, people don't, like, make us feel things, or they don't make us have, like, these emotions. It's ourselves, you know. We react to other people. I think we are the ones that are, it's not they are causing these things, it's something in us that is causing these things. Because, you know, we see something, we hear something, and that causes something in us. It all goes back to ourselves. And that's what we really have to know ourselves in a very deep way. I know this is kind of not really on the quote at the moment, but it's just, like, it's interesting to think about because you've got to know yourself even deeper and deeper, and that's one thing that, you know, reflection and adoration is one thing that I love about it, is that time to, you know, go and think about things in your life and say, you know, why did this moment cause this kind of emotion in me? Why did it cause this type of reaction? Why did it cause these type of thoughts in me? It's very important to go back and reflect on those things and try to understand more and more of yourself. Because we don't truly understand ourselves. We really do not. It's very important to try to understand ourselves more. So that, one, we can understand ourselves so that in our day-to-day life, when those things happen, we're like, oh, this happened. I reacted this way. I know why this happened. Whether it was good or it was bad, you know why it happened. You can adjust to it and understand it. And then it makes other people's lives better if you know yourself more where you can communicate to those other people. So they're like, okay, this person knows that. I know they told me this. Now I know not to do this so that I don't cause this in them or vice versa. Or it could be a good thing that they like that you know to do in different ways like that. And so just deepening the understanding of yourself by just reflecting on what other people, what you see in other people. And then going back to the quote here of not being a hypocrite, if we see other people being a hypocrite as well, I feel like that's one way. When we see people being a hypocrite, we love to call it out. But then we ourselves are the very hypocrites of the hypocrites. So it's just very important to reflect on yourself. But to go back to the quote, I was actually thinking of nefarious when this came up even though we just talked about it last week. But the demon in the movie talked about how when the angels first came to be that they had a will, like their own separate will. And then they realized, and I think he said that they discovered God's or came to find out about God's will. I'm not exactly sure how that works. This is just a dialogue of the movie. But they found out about God's will. And God, being the God that he is, wanted the angels and us as humans to follow his will and to serve him and to worship him. And Nefarious was like, well why would we want to do that when we have our own separate will? And it comes back to this quote. And it's because God deserves our gratitude and our appreciation. And that's what this quote is saying. We express our gratitude for God not just by uttering words but living by our gratitude and our love for him. That's how we live for God. That's how we live in service of God is by following his will and doing what he asks of us. And obviously it's hard and we fail. But that is what being a follower of God means. It's not just because I have to follow him. I have to do these things he's telling me. I'm a full-on slave in chains. I have to do this. No, it's because we have that love for him that we want to do these things. We want to do it because we love him. We want to follow him. And we know that by following him, by loving him, we are bettering ourselves, furthering our image to God. And God knows what's best for us. If we do what God wants for us, it's going to be good for us. Yeah, I completely agree. I'm going to take this two different directions. So in the last time I talked, I talked about living by the words, living by your actions. This time I want to talk about falsity of comments, falsity of compliments. So this is another way you can take this quote. As we express our gratitude, we must never forget that the highest appreciation is not to utter words, but to live by them. So another way, I've been thinking about this today. I've talked about this with social media. Plenty of times I will go to Instagram posts across social media and look at the comments, and you have hundreds of people that are on there, like, oh my gosh, this is so cool. Congratulations. You're so great. You're the greatest person ever. Love you. Greatest. But like a lot of those times, I know a lot of those people didn't really like that person, they're just portraying this false image. And I don't like the fakeness of that, but I think what he's trying to say is that we must never forget that the highest appreciation is not to utter words, but to live by them. So what you need to do, and what we need to do as humans, is when we find somebody we don't genuinely like, don't genuinely appreciate that much. It's hard to get along with this individual. What you need to do is focus on the good and not the bad. Pick out the good in this person, and if you're going to compliment them, compliment them on that good. Don't try to make up these fake compliments, because all you're doing is just making that relationship even more strained. Now, they may think you're meaning it and you're telling the truth, but if you're lying, that's an impact to your soul. That's your own personal impact. And if you want your soul to be aligned with the will of God and brought closer to the will of God, I would mean the compliments that you say. Mean them. Don't try to be fake. Try to be real. Try to be real with this person. Acknowledge that there's good in them, because there's good in everybody, and I promise you there's something you can compliment somebody on. It doesn't take a psychic or God or any... It doesn't take anybody to know that there's good in everybody, because we were born with it. We were born with love. We were born with goodness. So, recognize the good in everybody, and just really try to hone in on that. I know there are people out there that, you know, the minor areas can bother me, but I still should try to find the good in them. And that's important as well, and I think that's one of the things he's saying in this. Next, I want to go ahead and jump towards this Lenten season that we are in as Catholics. It's these 40 days leading up to Easter, which I think Easter is actually not on the 40th day. I think it's on like the... I think it's technically... It's actually the 46th this year, I believe is what I counted. Day? 46th. Oh, so normally Easter's during before Lent ends, actually. I mean, I've had that, I think. Yeah, I'm not exactly sure how the days work, but... Maybe it's the other way around. All I know is the Lenten season is an image of Jesus. It's like 40 days in celebration in honor of that. Yeah, and so we've both been giving up things for Lent. Mine was this, mine was Instagram, his was Instagram. I forgot what else you were doing. Messing with the hair. Messing with the hair. I've been doing great at it. I've tried my best. It's hard to get out of the habit of clicking the Instagram tab. It's very hard for me not to touch my hair, dude. It's so bad. Yeah, I understand. It's hard to break down. I'll just click it, and I'll be on it for like a minute. I'm like, shoot, it's not supposed to be on your own swiper at all. So yeah, that's bad. But we're trying our best, and that's the important part. We just had Palm Sunday Mass today. It was great. One of the coolest traditions by far. I really enjoyed it. And so I want to talk about Jesus living by faith through this 40-day period. How are we supposed to take his lesson and grow in our faith through that? So today we celebrated Jesus' entrance into Jerusalem on a donkey by Palm Sunday. And we talked about it. And during the Gospel, we heard the story of the Passion. And it's a long Gospel. It's like 10 minutes. No, probably longer. 15? It's like a 15-minute Gospel, but it was really neat because you have the priest is up there reading Jesus' part. The deacon is up there reading. He's kind of like the narrator. And then there was a girl up there reading for Peter and the other disciples. And then the entire crowd was a crowd. And it's so cool to kind of get this visual representation of it because we're all kind of portraying this Passion story. And I was sitting there thinking the entire time this Gospel was going on, and I always love Lent. I love the whole aspect of Lent. I love the Triduum, Holy Thursday, Good Friday, Easter Vigil, or Easter Sunday leading up into the celebration of Easter because it is this chance to grow as close as you can to God in that time period to celebrate His resurrection on Easter Sunday. And it's like the coolest thing ever. And I was just sitting there and I was like, Jesus lived by faith through this entire thing. He did not hesitate. He might have, like in the Garden at the end, He might have said, God, is this really going to be my true burden? Is this what you will for me? And God was like, yes. And He was like, then mine will be done. And He didn't even hesitate. He was like, alright, this is it. I'm going to sacrifice myself for this human race because I love them with all of my heart. And I find that so, so, so moving because I talked to Him before the podcast and I was like, I kind of want to do a quote that talks about sacrifice. And what Jesus did through His sacrifice is that He expressed gratitude to us, not only by words. His ministry was all, He expressed His actions through words, through parables, and He performed miracles. But finally, in the end, He gave the biggest compliment, the biggest expression of gratitude He could to us. And He meant it with His full heart. And what has it done? It has changed the world. It has impacted the Christian view across the entire world. All of us are united as Christians, united under God, united to grow closer to Him because of His sacrifice. And that is so unique and so amazing and that's the coolest part about life is that honoring of the sacrifice that He united us. Absolutely. And then at most churches around, or Catholic churches, you have the image of Jesus and He's up there on the cross and kind of His head is just kind of like leaning against His shoulder. If you're on podcast, you can imagine that. He's kind of just like, He's just like leaning against His shoulder. When we went to the beach, the church there has the stations of the cross outside with the cross in the middle. And the image of Jesus on the cross, my mom pointed it out to me when we were there. She said that's how Jesus really would have looked. A lot more gruesome. Yeah, it's a lot more gruesome. And He's like leaning forward. He can't even hold Himself up and He's just like fallen and gone limp, basically. And I feel like that image just portrays it even more. He's hanging up there. Yeah, He's hanging up there. We know the weight of that. But then the fact that He's just limp and He can't even do it anymore. It really shows that He literally died. It wasn't like, oh, He just hopped off the cross. Like, oh, I'm resurrected. No, He literally died completely. And you see it. You're like, wow, this is even more. He deepens it even more. And then to go back to, this is a different thing that I thought about, but I just wanted to point that out because you were going off on Jesus. And to quickly quote Nefarious on what you just said. Nefarious said the only death that's worse than the electric chair is crucifixion. So just remember that. He didn't just die. He went through the worst pain imaginable. It wasn't a simple bullet to the head death. It was torture. Days. Days before He was resurrected. Then they're beating Him. They're mocking Him. And then in the morning, there's the scourging. Which, if you don't know what the scourging is, I mean, that probably gets me the worst. I had my Latin class in high school. I think it was my sophomore year. And it was during Easter season. And our teacher literally just had a full lesson, full day, just talking about not whether Jesus was real or not or anything like that. Just, if Jesus is real, if His passion is real, this is what it was. This is how the Romans did it. And it's literally like a whip with tripped spikes on it. And I could be wrong with this number. They're called like cat something. Yeah, but I'm pretty sure he said it like 47 times. And just like every time. Imagine just like a whip to the back. Wet. But then, there's like the little shards, as you say, going into the skin and like ripping out the skin every time. That one gets me for sure. And then, you know, obviously the walk is terrible carrying the cross. But if you think about it, as His back is shredded like that, you have the wood of the cross rubbing against like open flesh, bare skin, like raw skin. You have that. And then you've got to get nailed. The pain of, like that, the pain of nails, just thinking about nails going through your body. That is something. His father pointed out today is how he died on the cross. He suffocated. That's terrible. Could you imagine that? You have all this pain. Not only do you have this pain, then you have to hang on this cross for three hours before you suffocate to death. Yeah, it's insane. It's unbelievable. You were talking about how it's the worst death. It really is. It's terrible. I mean, the pain is unbelievable. And just, he lived it out, right? He didn't utter words at the end, when he cried out at the end before he died. But he was living by his faith. I mean, wow. Just pouring into, let your will be done, not mine. And that is just, there's no other greater example of it. So, do you remember the thought you had before I went? I do remember my thought, but... Can we segue into that after the... Can you write it down so you don't forget? I have a feeling, but let's not forget. Alright, so, speaking of Jesus' walk to Galgitha, speaking of Jesus' walk to Calvary, I want to talk about the man who helped him get there. The man who was pulled out of the crowd, and without question, helped Jesus carry the cross. Our shepherd of the week this week is going to be the one and only Simon of Cyrene. Now, why did we choose Simon? It's random. Not really, he's not really mentioned that much after this, is he? I don't think he's mentioned that much in the Bible after this. I don't know if he's mentioned at all after this, to be honest with you. Is he? Is he? Well, yeah, look it up. So, he may not even be mentioned at all after this, but he's very influential in the Passion because what he did is sacrifice his own kind, sacrifice his own strength, sacrifice his humanity, essentially, for God. He gave himself for Jesus and helped Jesus carry this cross to Calvary because he was asked to. So, he was just asked to. Just like Jesus asked the disciples, stop, follow me. And Simon of Cyrene stopped, and not only followed him, but helped him bear his cross. Which is what we're called to every day. We're called to bear the cross. We're called to help bear the cross. Because any time we sin, the visual representation I've always been given is that any time we are sinning, we are hitting that nail in further and further and further and further. But when we don't sin, what are we doing? We're alleviating the weight on the cross. And it's kind of, that's what Simon, this visual representation of Simon is so huge. It's so big. Absolutely. And, you know, there's not really much else to say about it. You know, you've encapsulated perfectly what Simon does for us, but I would like to say what, if he is ever mentioned after crucifixion, it says that Scripture makes no direct mention of Simon of Cyrene after the resurrection. Tradition states Simon went to Egypt and shared the gospel. After that, according to the apocryphal, how do you say that? Apocryphal? Apocryphal? Apocryphal. That's my guess. Apocryphal Acts of Simon and Judas, Simon was martyred in 100 AD by being cut in half with a saw. Wow. So he faced the disciples' death. Yeah. So, you know, not only did he carry the cross for Jesus, but then he ended up not only taking this cross, but taking the cross into the rest of his life. Like this, this changing moment of carrying the cross for Jesus changed his life forever. And then he went on to evangelize and then he carried the cross in a different way to martyrdom by being cut in half with a saw. I mean, he carried a lot of crosses. That's, that's, you know, we all have to carry our own crosses. Jesus says, pick up your cross and carry it and follow me. So, you know, Simon and Cyrene, remember him when you are feeling tough times of carrying your cross. Remember Simon and Cyrene and help Jesus and Jesus helps us carry our crosses. And it's very special to know it's his martyrdom because martyrdom is, it is, again, it's sacrifice. It's the biggest display of generosity to God because you're giving yourself to him. You're not only uttering the words of being faithful, you are living by it and dying by it. Even though Peter denied Jesus three times, in the end, throughout the rest of his discipleship, when he was faced with death, he, in the end, took it. He did not deny God in the end because he knew that he was satisfied with the love he had for God and he trusted in God. And in the end, he sacrificed himself. That's why he's a martyr. And it's very influential towards Christians today to see that because you know that those people really truly believed in Jesus and cared and loved him and that Jesus loved them as well. And God, Jesus always cared and loved them. And it's really neat to notice that. There's no greater love than to be able to lay one's life down for one's friend. Indeed. Indeed. All right. Well, I'm going to jump back to my previous thought. Could you please pull up the quote, please, sir? So it's talking about, you know, the greatest form of appreciation, not uttering words, but living by them. And you were talking about, you know, society and talking about, you know, they say false words, different things like that. And it reminds me that like our society now, I feel like it's much more built off not doing what JFK said. You know, they say that the highest appreciation is uttering words, but you don't really see them living by them. And it really made me think of what my mom had told me about, you know, my grandpa, who unfortunately passed away like around a year, one month ago, I believe. But, you know, my mom said that she, I don't know, she hadn't been told by her father that, you know, he loved her. And for a good amount of time, like she did not hear him say this, you know, very often at all. And I feel like a lot of like the older generation is not used to that and not used to expressing that love through words. But there was never a time in my mom's life that I don't think she would have said that she, let me word that right, my mom would never have said that her dad did not love her. Even though he may not have told her all the time, she knew it all the time. And how did she know that? Because he lived by it. He lived by his love for not only my mom, but for her sister, for her brother, and for my mom's mom, my grandma. And that's, I just completely dropped my pen, but anyway. You have a mic drop right there. He was just trying to visually display it. But anyway, that is what encompasses this quote. And I think it's interesting how society has changed from that. And the older generation truly, I believe, lived by it. Obviously, the older generation definitely had mistakes as well, just like the new generation will have mistakes. But I think this is an important aspect of it. Yes, we have grown, or we can express our words better, and that's a good thing for sure. And that's good to express our appreciation. But to be able to live by love is an incredible thing. And I think it's way more important than showing your words. If you're able to show your words because of your love, that's awesome. But being able to live by it is so much more key. And I think, going back to Nefarious once again, this movie is great, guys, I'm telling you. There's a reason we keep playing it. Watch it. Please. Please watch it. But anyway, he talks about, you know, Nefarious talking to James about how his girlfriend is about to get an abortion, and talking about how James doesn't want to be a father. He doesn't think he's ready yet. And so, the demon's really calling him out here, like, oh, you're not ready, blah, blah, blah. But then he says, you know, James, you could call her right now, you could tell her to stop, and you could marry her, you could tell her that you want to be the father of your child and love them, and you could make your life about sacrificial love. And I was like, shoot. The demon is dropping bars. Literally. He's dropping bars. And even though, you know, he made a mistake by, you know, getting her pregnant before marriage, still, being able to make that choice to be a husband, to be a father, and to give themselves in that way, in that form of sacrificial love, the demon knows that that is one of the greatest forms of love that we have on earth. If not, the greatest form of love. Being a father, being a mother, being a husband, being a wife. Being able to give yourself completely in that. Because there's so many things that you live by as a father, a mother, a husband, a wife, that express your love. So many things. Like, getting up in the morning to, you know, wake your kids up for church, or wake them up for school, take them to school, pick them up from school, take them to their sports, or just go to work, make money. What do you make money for as a father, as a mother? For them. For your kids, you know? So, really, there's no greater form of love, and you live by it every single day. That's why marriage, and that's why having kids is such a blessing and such a gift from God, and people that don't get to experience that, I hope they get to experience their single life, or, what's it called? Priesthood, or, what's the word? What are you talking about? Priest, nun, brother. What are those all encompassed into one word? Do you know? Anyway. No, no, no, give me, give me, give me. There's the single life, there's marriage, vocational life. Is it vocational? Is that what it is? Yeah. Is it the liturgical one? I'm not sure. Is it liturgical? I don't know. Anyways, anyways, anyways. You have, like, marriage, you have vocations, and, well, no, because they're all vocations, they're all vocations. Yeah. Is it liturgical? Is it liturgical? I don't know, this is really frustrating. Anyways. Man, that is, that is upsetting. I don't even know where to go in, because that's just, threw the whole thing off right there. Anyways. Basically, marriage, being a parent, sacrificial love, one of the greatest forms of love, and you live by it every day. Just like a club. I mean, essentially your goal when you have kids and get married is to get those people ahead, and that's your goal, and you become in charge of it, and so it really challenges you as a person, and once you're able to manage that and control that and be able to guide them in a stable way to heaven, that's truly when you get close to God, when you're growing closer to God through marriage, which is why it's one of the greatest forms of love and expressions of love. Now, I wanted to briefly touch on, you talked about older generations and their form of love being more physical. I think the problem with today's is more, not more physical, more sacrificial, like doing stuff for them. Living it out. Yeah, living it out. I think the problem with today's generation, with divorce rates, with relationships among people being way less shorter. Way more short, you mean? Yeah, way more short. Way more short. Can't do way more shorter. Can't do that. Yeah, way more short. Way more short. Grammar. Anyway, I think the problem with it being way more short and all these other issues that are coming into love, impacting into love today, is that we always feel like we have to be getting something out of it, right? But what we're getting out of it is the love. That's what we're getting out of it, and people fail to realize that. Because, like, you can love a cat. I'm not a cat guy, but I sure do. I love my cat. I think it's a cool cat. Socks. He's just, he doesn't do anything at all to help me. Like, I don't have anything out of it. I don't get anything out of it, but I still love my cat, because he's soft, he's cool. He's really my brother's cat, but I still love him because he's soft and he's been around forever. Can't say the same about our dogs. That's okay. There's a love-hate relationship with them. But you don't always have to be getting something out of love, and just really know that, because love can be sacrificial. You can be sacrificing your time, yourself, for love, and not get something in return. That's okay. That's what love is. And just acknowledge that. Remember that. I think that's the perfect way to end it, is talking about that. You really said all of it. You don't have to, you're not supposed to just do things because you want to see what people do back to you. Yeah. You want that, you shouldn't, I mean, you could want it, but your reasoning for it should not be because you want to get something, an expression, back from the other people. You should do it because you want the betterment of the other people. Like, if the dishes are in the sink, and I know you have a lot of homework, I want to get the dishes done for you so that you don't have to come back and do the dishes. I have a constant form of conflict in the dorm, it's my disability. But anyway, seriously, if you know that someone, you can give yourself from that, and do I expect Cole to come home and be like, oh, thanks for doing the dishes? No! I just want to do the dishes for him, so he doesn't have to do it when he's doing his homework. That doesn't mean I don't say thank you. I try to. Yeah, I mean, he definitely does. Or he just... Or I don't even let him cook the dishes for him. Oh, he makes a joke about it. You wouldn't. I don't make a joke about it. Anyway, it's sacrificial love. You know, living out your gratitude, living out your appreciation for people, and especially God. And just use your words wisely, when they are needed, genuinely, but most importantly, live out your love. We are the Law Sheet Podcast. Please like, share, spread the message. We'd love to get a bigger audience and grow, and be able to reach more people. Thank you guys. God bless. That was... That was pretty solid. Good episode. Little to no preparation.