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The chapter called Making and Beginning in the book discusses the concepts of creating and begetting. Making refers to creating something that is not one's own, while Beginning is like begetting a son. God created the world for people to live on, but Jesus was begotten. There is also a mention of how God pulled wisdom forth from somewhere, which is another interesting concept from the Bible. It shows that God has different ways of doing things, whether it is creating, begetting, or pulling things forth from the heavenly realms. our next point there is a chapter in the book that is called Making and Beginning. I believe it's, which chapter is it? Book four, chapter one. Book four, chapter one. Can you elaborate a little bit about what Making and Beginning means for you and what you think? So Making and Beginning is two different things. Making is, as Lewis describes in the book, is creating something that's not of your own. And Beginning is kind of like begetting a son. As John 3.16 says, for God to love the world, he gave up his one and begotten son, that whoever believes in him shall not die, but have eternal life. And they're different because when it says God created the world, I would say it's not his, but he created it so that us people could live on it. It's not like he begot the world, you could say. He begot Jesus. So God begat Jesus, God created the world, create made. It could be different, but in the same terms, it's kind of the same thing. Interesting, yeah. And there's actually even another term that the Bible uses, I believe, in Proverbs, where it talks about this figure, and it kind of presents it as a feminine type of character, and it almost personifies wisdom. And it speaks about how God didn't create nor begot, but he pulled wisdom forth from somewhere. So that's a whole other interesting thing from the Bible that a lot of Christians don't even know about. So I think it's pretty cool that God has different ways of doing things. He can create, he can beget, and he can just pull things forth from, I don't know, from the ether or from the heavenly realms.