PJ's Podcast Ep 1

PJ's podcast is hosting its first episode. The hosts, Julian and Barb, will be discussing and analyzing football-related topics. They start by talking about Super Bowl 58, highlighting the performances of Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey. They also discuss the Chiefs' defense and their unexpected success. The hosts share their thoughts on Christian McCaffrey and Brock Purdy's performances in the game. They believe Purdy played well, but not at the level of Mahomes. Overall, they enjoyed the game and found the halftime show entertaining. They also discuss Purdy's future as a quarterback and whether he will be considered a top five player in the near future. Hello everyone. Thanks for joining us. Um, this is PJ's podcast. We're very excited to bring you our very first episode My name is Julian. I'm here with my co-host Barb. If you didn't piece that together that makes up PJ's We're two friends who never stopped talking about football. So we thought why not be a little productive and start a podcast Here we'll be discussing analyzing and probably mostly arguing about anything football related So thanks for listening and sit back and relax to us to the fact yep to the fat I'm sure you guys all know what that means. But you know, this means we're gonna be on I don't know digesting some Some words of wisdom, you know So offseason is officially begun. It's kind of a interesting time to start but it's kind of fresh time to start a podcast, you know Um So let's get right in and talk about the Super Bowl. Yeah, Super Bowl 58 We had my home versus Purdy and we had a few big News stories with Travis Kelsey Taylor Swift everyone hating Taylor Swift But yeah, it's definitely an interesting one. No Well, we'll get into most of the things you guys are probably wanting to hear you guys have probably already seen a lot because you know, it's over a weekend, but Let's start off with some key players of the game You know the main one that started with my homes So what are your thoughts on the homes how he played? He was just amazing. I mean he played a full game He passed the ball. He led the Chief in rushing and It looked like private homes like in 2018 2020. He was just him Yeah, I mean he did everything he needed to win He made a like a few just amazing throws like sometimes There weren't that many like crazy big plays in the game but he just overall did what he had to do to win and like you said like Leading the team in rushing like he doesn't typically rush that much I mean, I know we all know he can do it But you know that just shows that he does what he's got to do to win. I think he played a phenomenal game Yeah, I felt like in earlier in the game. He had that one big throw I forgot to who it was but Immediately they fumbled the ball. There was a lot of mistakes. Yeah, I kind of thought that it would almost be that game like That you're playing against Brady in the Buccaneers. We're like, you know, my home's place So great like like he tried so hard, but his team just isn't supporting his receivers, right? he just he just did enough and Weren't there like a few drops do and stuff like I was really thinking that it'd be another type of that game But like my home's just proved that all you need to win the Super Bowl is homes I mean that you know, yeah. Yeah, I agree with that first pass It looked it did look like the Buccaneers versus Chiefs back in 2020 It was 0 to 10 49ers were winning and the Chiefs just couldn't get going on offense But something just clicked in the second half and my home's just became my home. Yeah Well, we'll we'll talk more about where my home's ranks overall in the future But let's talk a little bit more about some other players and this guy's very interesting Kelsey. Oh, yeah First half he didn't do anything. Yeah. I mean you had this game with Kittle and Kelsey You would expect both of them to show up. Yeah, I mean Kittle did nothing for the whole game Kelsey for the first half he was like Kittle but the second half he turned it on He was like Kittle but the second half he turned it on and that I mean again You guys have probably all seen that moment where Kelsey was screaming at Andy Reid But there's a lot of frustration like because he wasn't getting any like targets and he wasn't producing anything I don't know. I was nervous for all the Chiefs before it's like like the first half but I think Kelsey Showing up in the second half even after all that frustration and turn it around I think it shows that how reliable he is, you know, yeah, I I don't agree with how he handled the situation with Andy Reid Yeah, but don't do that to the coach yeah, exactly, but it shows a lot like how talented he is to end up like making so many key plays and like he really is my home's number one target, but we did see him kind of drop off towards the end of the year and Like I was kind of expecting him to retire like cuz he had the Super Bowl maybe retire. Yeah, like cuz his career is Downhill, I mean he had a really good career, but he's just too old now I mean, what do you think about his career like not even if he's gonna retire or not? But like how well do you think he's gonna play in the next few years? I think it people he'll be around 900 yards, which is really good for a tight end Yeah, but I'm just not Kelsey. Yeah numbers, but I just think he's getting a little bit too old He was really inconsistent during the year like he had a couple of really good games But like for the rest of the season, he just didn't show up. Yeah. I mean, I also do think that It was a part of like the Chiefs not having that many weapons Like when you are like the only weapon on your team, it is just harder to get open You know, you could begin double teams most plays so I think Maybe possibly like getting if the Chiefs, you know draft or sign some receivers and actually have more options Maybe that will open up like, you know Kelsey and maybe he'll do better than expectations But yeah, I agree with you in that. I wouldn't expect Like Kelsey type numbers for the rest of his career. Yeah, and this Chiefs team that we saw this year Shouldn't have made it to the Super Bowl. Yeah, their whole offense was it was mid It was like middle of the pack maybe a little bit better But the main reason they were there is their defense and I think like you just have to give them applause for what they did Like throughout the playoffs they shut down the Ravens in the second half the 49ers Like we're not the team that we saw. I think the Chiefs defense was like the main reason they made it to the playoff So honestly, that's kind of like More scary for other teams. This wasn't supposed to be a down year Like kind of this was a year where you'd be like, you're looking at the Chiefs thinking like they're a beatable team you know, they don't have that many weapons, but the fact that they ended up ultimately winning the Super Bowl is even more scary to show they're like as long as you have a Holmes and like a few other guys you're gonna like Be there and it really like kind of Staples in how good of a dynasty that this team is going to be. Yeah, I agree. I mean, it's just a good game Yeah, it was a great game. The first half was a little underwhelming But the second half is after that halftime show, you know, I don't know. Maybe usher did something to him I thought that halftime show was pretty good. Yeah, maybe that Maybe that helped him lock in and play better for the second half. Yeah, what are your thoughts on CMC though that game? CMC I mean just like my home he did everything like anything that you could ask him. He rushed the ball I mean, he was kind of shut down in the first half that fumble too. Yeah, he did have that fumble But he made it up with his receiving ability and he was just overall the CMC we've seen Yeah, like I think CMC was probably the second best player that game after Mahomes like overall I think he played a great game obviously besides that fumble, but he was just doing everything Anytime the 49ers were like, you know Moving the ball down the field is mostly because CMC Yeah, I love CMC. I had him on my fantasy team. So thank you Christian McCaffrey If the 49ers won, do you think that he would have like been in the conversation for some more MVP or no? Yeah, I think he would have won it Brock Purdy. He would have won it. Yeah first run back to every winning Yes, guaranteed Brock Purdy Brock Purdy didn't play that bad. Yeah, but he's like that's weren't amazing But he didn't have like that game, but a lot of times they don't need to have that game like in order to get that just be in order to get the Super Bowl MVP just because they're quarterback like I Just think CMC was the best player on the 49er and that kind of brings us into another key player Brock Purdy Of course, I I think he played like a solid game. It's his second year and you know, he had a there's a lot of like pressure on him, but I Don't think he played a bad game. He made like some decent passes. He just didn't like play amazing He didn't play amazing enough to win them the game Yeah, he played good, but that's not what a Super Bowl MVP is He should have won that game for the 49ers and he just didn't have like those explosive plays Yeah, that like a mom Mahomes would have or a Josh Allen I mean, he's still a decent quarterback not decent but good top ten for sure But it just shows like this game and against the Packers Like he can't he's not the quarterback. He trusts in those big moments compared to my home Yeah, I mean I don't know a lot of people keep saying that Purdy gets carried by his team and like he has a great team But you gotta like put some respect on his name after you know Going to the NFC Championship two years in a row. It's like a rookie or as a second year player. That's just very I don't know No matter how good of a team you have that's very impressive And I think that Brad Purdy is definitely gonna solidify himself as one of those top five quarterbacks for the future. I Don't think in the near future He's still like he still has room for development as you said like the second year player But I don't see him being a top five quarterback next year. I'm for sure. Really? Yeah, you have my home Josh Allen burrow and Then burrow hasn't like but you can't tell how you can't count up burrow. Yeah, but you can't how are you coming up Purdy then? Because Purdy is not I'm not gonna say like what cam Newton says saying he's a game manager he's he's better than that, but he's not as explosive as other quarterbacks are and I would take Justin Herbert over him. He has more on talent. Yeah, okay So you're going like off of like a lot of talent and I could see how you're talking about that but like a Key indicator is just like your stats and like Purdy is gonna have consistent stats and he's gonna produce and he's gonna win Like it's hard to argue that like Oh Justin Herbert was on this team like you know, I mean at the end of the day I think it just comes down to how much you can win and if he just keeps winning how he's been winning I don't understand how he's not a top five quarterback, but I mean I Guess I could see if you put him at like, you know Fringe like top seven or something, but yeah, I could put him at seven. I think I think Jalen hurts He did not he had like a decent year. I was I think I would take him over Purdy and It's just more quarterbacks. I would take over Purdy because of their game-changing ability. Yeah Now, I mean that makes sense and then Maybe like probably the biggest play of that Super Bowl was that punt fumble? Which I'm I thought that was on the like I thought that it was the Fault of what do you call it the receiver of it? Yeah returner, but I didn't realize that actually like hit the other person's legs. I think he should have fallen on it we were talking about that, but yeah, I mean that's just a devastating way to pretty much like End up losing the Super Bowl because that was just crucial crucial moment I mean the 49ers should have won this by far, but they just weren't prepared I think that's a lot to do with Kyle Shanahan he just didn't prepare this team enough like they didn't know the overtime rules and plus this like Them fumbling. They just weren't disciplined enough. Yeah, okay that now this brings us into a new segment And I'm very interested to talk about the new overtime rules one I think it's interesting that so many people didn't know the overtime rules I I mean I actually didn't but I'm saying if you're a player Like how are you not prepared for anything that is to come like you know I mean Yeah, I think the chief knew all of the 49ers. They just didn't know which is like oh only a few okay, but important people didn't know and That's just how Shanahan should have taught them that yeah now Do you still stand by the take that? With the new overtime rules that you should receive the ball first. Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, you should totally receive the ball, okay? So this is interesting because I I definitely disagree and not just because of the outcome of what happened you know obviously these are easier to look in the past and say oh you should have done this but I Don't know. I think you definitely case with these new girls so you can go first and explain why yeah, so the 49ers They have a really good offense So if you expect yourself to have a good offense Then you think you're gonna score like a touchdown you got a field goal So if you do score that touchdown chief score, then you have a field goal to win the game, okay, so You score a touchdown are you going for two? first See that that's what we were talking about at the Super Bowl party, but so that's like that's the thing you need to go second You know everything like you know you you know everything you know what you have to do to win because Okay, so let's just say that the first team that gets it scores a touchdown and doesn't go for two the next team They they're gonna try and end it they're gonna go for a touchdown They're gonna go for two in this new era of football. We're like offense. It's all so offensive heavy You know going for it on fourth down. It's going for it for two more Like teams are definitely gonna go for two in that situation and they're gonna go for two because they don't want to give them They don't want to give the other team the chance to just score a field goal and take take the game They're gonna take the game right then and there so then you're thinking okay So you have to go for two pretty much if you go first and score a touchdown But then if you don't get that two-point conversion Then the other team will just score a touchdown kick a field goal or kick an extra point and win the game right there But the 49ers they do have a good defense I think it's it's less of like a 70 30 percent chance that the Chiefs do get the point conversion I think it's more of a 50-50. But what when you have like when you're on offense you feel like you control the game more than when you're on defense like You have the control like the control of the game is in your hands when you're on offense I just think it's a huge advantage to know exactly like what you have to do to win to go second No, it's just like the 49ers they have a good defense Fred Warner is like If they have a good defense, why don't you just kick first? Let's say you make a defensive play and stop them. Then you pretty much won the game right then and there It's just my homes, but I think I don't understand. I think they can stop your viewpoint I I think that if they if the 49ers for They're gonna they're gonna you think you go for two they can go for two. Hey, that's up to them I think if they go for two, it's it's good. And if they don't go for two, that's also good either way You're fine. Because all you have to do is not let them for a time. Also, I know they scored a touchdown another reason why you're wrong is Like if you're that team That um who goes first, let's say it's fourth and three and you're at the other person's 30 You don't know should you pick the field goal? Should you go for it? Should you do this you can lose the game right then and there by those decisions, but let's say then the other team You and like let's say the first team scored a touchdown as the second team You know that you have to go for it on every fourth down You know exactly what you have to do. So, you know on that fourth and three Yeah, we have to go for it But like let's say the first team went for it on that fourth and three didn't get it All you need is a field goal like the second team now knows exactly what they have to do to win and now that they have no fear of Like not being the ball back. I don't understand what the but you do have your back up against the wall if you if you're going second and it's just like It's just kind of like a more stressful thing that the No, no more stressful to go second because you have to like there's no if or what you have to First time there's not much stress on you. Like you can score a field goal. There's still a chance to win Okay, okay, even if we're not talking about stress, which I and stuff like that. I disagree I think it's more stressful to go first. But anyways, even talking about like, you know logic and reasoning Getting the ball second just makes more sense in every way. The only way that like it would be a positive of receiving ball first is if It goes to that third like possession. All you need to do is score any points to win, you know And I think that would happen that would not happen. That would not happen. Yes, it rarely happened No, because like we say If they score touchdown First team scores a touchdown and takes an extra point. The other team's gonna go for two Like that go for two. Why okay Why would they kick the extra point and then just? Take it off the other team and all they need to do is score a field goal to win because they could trust their defense It's either you trust your defense an offense. It's an offensive minded game now I don't but it like these this team was like you're in the Super Bowl You wouldn't I don't know if I would take that chance Immediately said like all that she's for celebrating like As soon as that happens like they knew they were prepared and they knew that they would kick if they got it first And I think a lot of teams now like thinking about it. They would kick first But a lot of teams would still receive like I just think the only chance that or the only way that's a positive for Going first is if you score a touchdown Go for two and then know that even if they copy if they do that exact same thing Then all you need to do is score, but it's just too much to Like have to do on that first drive because there's so many ways you can just lose the game on the first drive You can lose the game off the turnover and all they have to do is take a field goal You can lose the game going for on fourth down and you can lose the game by going for you know By scoring a touchdown and Either taking an extra point or going for two and not getting it like there's way more But like going second you you just know what you have to do and you play For what you have to do But it's a lot harder than than said like if if the 49ers did score a touchdown I mean, I know it's hindsight the Chiefs did score It would be a lot harder for the second team to score because they have to like it would just be a lot harder so pretty much your only argument is that You could put the pressure on the other team, yes, I Don't I don't think that's that important. Like I don't think that I think the pressure would have changed again I feel like if the 49ers scored like a touchdown It would put a lot more pressure on the Chiefs I'm telling you it'd be very interesting. I'm very interested. I don't go for two or not But I don't understand what I'm saying. Like yeah, I don't Good morning. Probably not. Yes, it wouldn't and if the Chiefs would get it back they score touchdown You think they're going for two? Absolutely. You're wrong. If you don't the thing is like pressure and momentum. They have a big They're they're big in football And I think like if the 49ers do score it it could it could put a lot of pressure on the Chiefs Yes But they still have a chance to and if and if something bad happens then the games over but they're less like I feel like teams they're less likely to score if they do have that pressure and momentum going against them and Like I would I don't know if I would bet but I would actually I would bet that if the 49ers did score a touchdown They would win the game because I don't see the Chiefs for it. Okay. Well, obviously like if they scored a touchdown you'd like their odds but No, I don't think the Chiefs are scoring. Okay, but like they have a chance to match that and they're still like They do have a chance, but it's not a good chance But okay, but do you agree that if you kick off first and you make a defensive stop, you're pretty much gonna win the game Turn over a stop like you're gonna win the game Well, yeah, probably but what what does that mean? I Don't know. I don't think you're understanding like What I'm arguing Yes, I know it just like you can you can mirror and you you can take fourth down, which is a big part of the game You're poor down having having knowing that you have four downs every single time you're going for that 10 yards It's huge like just knowing what you have to do. I Think like 30 out of 32 teams would kick like I Don't know. I think that's a bad decision by Shanahan. I think that was the biggest decision The biggest decision that ultimately end up Like causing the 49ers to lose. Yeah, I was still blaming on Shanahan for not preparing them to Why does that matters then because then you know what you have to do like, you know Yeah, that's not the right mindset anytime you step on the field if you're on defense You're trying to not let him score any points. You're an offense. You're trying to score a touchdown Yeah, but it's just you need to know the overtime rules to know what you have okay Isn't that kind of proving my point though? Cuz you're saying like oh you need to know Like no because then they could have gone for two or they could have like if they did score touchdown They would have gone for two and that's just way too like Risky, I don't know. It's just Going like blind that first team going blind is a huge like I don't know I just It's just a lot of Complicated but I was Complicated I don't know. I'll have his mind changed eventually, but for now, well, I will keep it at that I guess Shan has Super Bowl record and chokes. Do you think that's just a fluke or no? I Don't I don't think it's a fluke right now Because first Super Bowl it was uh, yeah, he played he was I think offensive coordinator with the Falcons Choke the hell out of that Choke the hell out of that they just stopped running the ball and they just made a lot of mistakes and then the 49ers Chiefs Super Bowl 54 They were up 10 in the fourth quarter. I think and they just blew that lead and this Super Bowl Like they blew another lead. Yeah, like it's just a trend It's always been a trend like recently that like the team that has the lead the lead ultimately ends up diminishing Like, you know, I mean, that's just in almost every game definitely Super Bowl to like It's harder to keep ugly. I think yeah, like I don't I think Shannon has a great coach I think that the biggest Mistake he made was receiving the ball in overtime, but like besides that I don't think he played that bad and the Super Bowl It's hard. It's the biggest game. You know, you're playing against the best team. It's just hard to win I I kind of think it's more of a fluke than that. Like I don't think that it's actually a Important story line was he owing three? It's a gross like I don't know. I don't think that's that big of a story line I still think it's a big story lines and like what we were talking about before He didn't prepare the 49ers for overtime, which is it just speaks to like, yeah, but he can't have like You can't have like more. Okay, you can't have like a one-on-one conversation with that Or you can't just like announce the rule book to the players as a player You're supposed to know the rule book and all these any any weird rule you should know No, but as a coach you're supposed to make sure that every player I don't every every player is supposed to do their job But as a coach, you're supposed to supervise that and make sure every player is actually doing their job, which is what Andy Reid did I don't know. Hey every week they lady leading up to the Super Bowl or I don't I don't remember what it said But the chief did repair their players, which is I think what the 49ers should have done even if they lost at death no, what what Shanahan should have done is just Defer and if anyone was confused, he would tell him why like in that moment like he would explain the rules like I Still think that it's less of him preparing the players because I think that's more of a player's fault I think it's just more of him for not or for taking the ball first. And again, I will convince barf I promise next next episode. He's gonna be like, okay guys, I apologize, you know, I was wrong about this. Um overtime I'm not gonna say he will but um, what about the losing Super Bowl curse? So that's like a Lot of the times the losing team in Super Bowl has like a poor season or like, you know They just don't live up to what they did the year before. Do you think that's gonna happen to the 49ers or no? No, no way. I know I was hating on Brock pretty earlier, but he's still a top-ten quarterback You have Christian McCaffrey best running back in the league Divo Samuel Brandon IU and you have the one of the best defenses. Yeah, they're gonna make it far next year Yeah, no, I agree I just think that the team is too talented and they don't have that many like big decisions to do like, you know You still have purty for that super cheap contract. Yeah, you're not gonna lose on your key players Like I just don't see how this team It doesn't win a game or two in the playoffs at least like that's kind of their floor because they're just such a good team Yeah, and the NFC isn't that competitive too? Yeah, I don't see what you have the Eagles who just lost in the wildcard round. He goes had a poor poor stretch I hope they can um, like bounce back from that last stretch. I don't know that was embarrassing for them And then what other teams do you have? No one else that's what you say equals lines Lines are good But yeah, and also bears No, not there It's important to know I'm gonna tell you guys right now because you're gonna hear a lot of bears references for me I'm a huge Bears fan. So there'll probably be some bad takes but just you know And I disagree with that and I'm not a bear fan. I'm a Patriots fan Okay, but in all seriousness just really quickly the Bears have a bright future and they Honestly could be like a scary playoff team. Not here. Not next year. Yes. No, not next. Yes weird No, we're just talking about Brock Purdy how with a great team. He made it Nowhere near the They are nowhere. Do you have a Christian? Okay, but Kayla Kayla Williams might be nowhere near Brock Purdy in terms of level Kayla Williams might be way better than Brock Purdy. No, he could we just established that Brock Purdy's a top 10 quarterback Maybe it's the top seven. Well, I wasn't talking about last year He's developed into it and I think going into the next years He'll be a top five, but he didn't just come out of right off the bat being the top five quarterback No, that's the great team. Just no. No, okay. You had okay. Let me bring up this trend from the past You had Peyton Manning Regarded as the top three quarterback of all time He was drafted first overall and he was widely known as one of the best prospects ever But his first few years he was absolutely horrendous through so many picks through more pics and touchdowns and later in his career he he did Come to be Peyton Manning's and I'm not gonna say that's gonna happen for Caleb Williams, but rookie quarterback struggle and And I even that's fair but just when you talk about generational talent some crazy things could happen and I think I Think what helps what helped Brock Purdy succeed and what is a key like factor for developing quarterback young? developing quarterbacks is having a good roster built around you and I'm not seeing the Bears are the 49ers in terms of no idea. I Wouldn't say no. No way. I would not say no. We're here no, our defense once we got my test wet in the end of the year has been a very solid defense DJ more you pair that with Romo doomsday or Malik neighbors or any You know free agent by the receiver and get decent old line I'd like there's so many ways we can go so much a draft capital because all three of us We're gonna have a good surrounding. Yes, Kayla Williams could be a bust or even Malik I I don't think that that's that you have Sammy walking off draft Hey, but you're not gonna be in that wide receiver one role will probably draft someone and sign other people like regardless of you know What we exactly do we have so much draft capital and we have so much on Cap space that we're gonna have a good surrounding court around either field or Williams I do agree that the Bears will be good, but not next year No, we'll see they'll still be decent. I think there'll be a middle in the road to you. We'll see Okay, but that was that was it for the little rant This is still come sticking to the Super Bowl. Where's my home shrink all time? I have It's between two or three. So my quarterback rankings is of course Brady one I you can't argue that like that's like the most solidified argument and I've been debating this paint Manning or Patrick Mahomes painted Peyton Manning has more MVPs But somehow he has less Super Bowls and Patrick Mahomes already. Yeah in way less years. I'm one homes Sorry about that. I'm going home easily Not okay, not not like my crazy amount, but I think he's definitely number two Just because the amount of stuff he's done in This short of a year like I'm not saying he's Michael Jordan, but like that's why Michael Jordan was so crazy It's just pure dominance Straight from the start like this dominance from home from the start has been crazy His stats have been out of this world, you know The amount of accomplishments he has just I don't know way too good to not be second. I just Right now I'm gonna put Peyton Manning over him just cuz like Peyton Manning does have all the big stats over him and MVPs over him. He was just overall like had a way better career. I mean Yeah, but I mean I guess if you're talking about like if Mahomes career ended today But I'm more saying if his career didn't lead to any crazy accomplishments like if he didn't win any more rings if he Didn't win any more MVPs stuff like that. He's still gonna be consistent, which I don't think it's gonna happen He's too good to not have that but he'll still be consistently good in terms of stats So I'm not saying if his career ended today. I'm just saying if He's like key accomplishments ended today, and he was still consistent. He's not okay that that he's not I would actually have Peyton Manning over him. Really? Yeah, cuz Peyton Manning he's Towards the end of the cure for his career. He was really good. He has it Well, I'm not saying like he does nothing but I'm saying like maybe he loses in the you know loses in the Super Bowl one or two times like like if he's just still very relevant and Still dominating in terms of stats but Peyton Manning he did have the most dominant year of all time 55 touchdowns and I don't see Mahomes beating that. Mahomes had a crazy year. I'm not good at remembering stats. He had 50 touchdowns. Yeah, five less Well, big deal with well, wasn't there an extra game too? No, no not yet Okay, but still 55 touchdowns is crazy And I still have to respect Peyton Manning and I know some if old heads are watching this you guys gonna say Joe Montana I just didn't watch him and I Know like back then stats were hard to achieve, but he didn't have the stats He didn't have the four Super Bowl rings, but I would take Patrick Mahomes over. So Montana I'm just gonna say this three times Super Bowl champ Three times Super Bowl MVP got it all times six times AFC West champion two times MVP winner and the third most playoff wins already at this young age is just That's too crazy I think this is his fifth Super Bowl in a row. Of course his first year as a starter He didn't make it. Yeah, and when he's back to back Super Bowls, you think oh the GOAT beat him. I don't think he's that I okay and this also goes where where he ranks all time. Do not use it Okay, not talk bad about Tom Brady. I'm not I'm not talking bad about Tom Brady But I think you're undermining how crazy Mahomes had been. I think if he wins two more rings I know you're gonna say like or like one or two more rings again still with dominance Maybe picks up another MVP or like, you know still consistently good. I think he's definitely in the conversation. No, no Yes, no, it's a different is greater than five. Okay, but it's a different era. Why is LeBron in the GOAT conversation then? Huh? Why is LeBron in the GOAT conversation? Because he has more stats, but does yeah No, no, no. No, he's not. Yes. He is Brady played for 23 years I don't see Mahomes playing for 23 years 23 years. It's crazy. There's different types of quarterbacks like Mahomes is gonna take more hits and I don't know. I don't I don't think that you know That age should matter that much like Well, I think I know but I think we should talk about like how dominant they've been in the time that they played Yeah, that's why that's why MJ is the GOAT Brady was also very dominant 2007 50 touchdowns 50 5-0 and the same as Mahomes You're just and even in an earlier era earlier era where passing was not as big as it was But you talk about different eras like it's kind of impossible to win as many rings as Brady has Like because it's so much harder to keep a team It's so much harder to keep a dynasty like players who want to leave just they're off the teams it's way harder to keep a good core and that's why I don't see Mahomes catching up in terms of rings, but I Definitely think just one or two more some other one is no I'm saying one like he gets the Super Bowl MVP. Of course, maybe he picks up another MVP in his career if he picks up another MVP, he'll be the same MVPs same amount of MVPs of Brady and He'll have less Super Bowls What argument can you make for that? I mean Just because of how much he's done at his age because again, we're assuming that he's going to retire before Tom Brady's age was how old he played 43 43 44 something like that. I Don't know. I know again part of the Patriots fan So I know he's gonna act like it's nowhere near but the conversations are gonna start starting. I Don't know and I think for a good reason and yes, I do think passion Mahomes is more talented. Yes. Oh, that's another thing Yeah, how is that? I don't know how I did if I say air I could say Aaron Rodgers is the best quarterback of all Okay, but it has to be a piece. It has he's one of the most talented It has to be you a variety of different things. Yes, but he hasn't got to the variety that Brady has huh? He doesn't know he has no that's what I'm saying is he doesn't need to reach the rings Like as if he reaches these MVPs if he exceeds in stats if he exceeds in talent if he exceeds and all these other things He doesn't need to exceed in every single category. He has to at least have five At least five and I still work. It's just I don't know talent does go into determine like, you know yes, but you you need to be you need to have those stats and Super Bowls and I I Don't think Mahomes will catch up to Brady anytime Any time soon, actually, yeah what I said before it anytime Brady is the gulf Conversations against like starting and I do kind of dislike Tom Brady So I guess I might be a little bit biased but why why just Mahomes? Huh? Why do you dislike Brady? I mean everyone Like it's like a winner a winner the greatest of all time. That's what you just already dislike the home. Yeah That's why like I think he that shows that he's on on the trajectory You people got to start hating you people got to start getting tired of you. I think people are getting tired Yeah, they are. Yeah, people were tight and he's gonna get a three-peat and he's gonna get it I I Actually think that you know, the Chiefs are in a good spot kinda they have a lot of key free agents So they're probably gonna have to let go of some people but we were just talking about how when you have homes You know, you're in 500 million this dollar contract, okay exactly, but this um wide receiver draft board in this Draft class is amazing even in the like in the area where the Chiefs will be picking and that's probably their biggest need So like the draft kind of like fits towards the Chiefs, you know, you pick up some talent, you know I mean, I don't know. I think a three-peat is possible. Okay. Okay. They did a three-peat. Come on That's pretty crazy in this era football three-peat. I mean this era of football also had what eight eight starter Eight to be starters get injured burrow Herbert two big names. They got injured Wait, who'd you say Herbert and who bro? I don't know. Well, it had a really good chance at stopping the home okay, but like I don't know where that plays into it. Like and I'm definitely not a fellow weaker overall NFL yeah, but like I'm not even rolling out the fact that a Chiefs three-peat wouldn't mean that my home's might miss a few games Well, I miss a few games and they still get a three-peat like that's just a part of the game. Sadly. I don't think I don't really think that has like No, it's even for all teams and more people are getting injured then more people are getting injured for your team and other teams Well, that didn't happen last year Yeah, and also for the Chiefs I do want to say this 2019 It was a good wide receiver class And we were picked 32 the Patriots and we drafted to kill Harry. So that's not out of the question for the Chief either Oh, I'm never obviously any guy you pick can be a bus or any guy you pick can be amazing like I'm not saying you'd like just that solves all their issues completely, but like You can't deny that. There's a lot of wide receiver talent There is a lot And honestly that sounds like a Patriots problem Maybe Bella check your stuff to drafting people. Wait, why doesn't Bella check on the job? See oh cuz he's washed he's not washed. He's not he's not washed. He's the greatest coach of all time and That just shows how good Brady was with not Also look at Brady's. I know earlier before the 2010s. He had Randy Moss West Loker, but yeah I'm going towards nobody After 2014, what did he have? I mean Julian Edelman? I Do love him, but he had like an amazing Yes, they do Brady when Brady beat Mahomes in that game Brady didn't play better than homes did he just had way more help No better defensive play. She Mahomes was playing a home fight. I recount was playing this part Oh, I swear my home just threw it up to Tyree Hill Tyree Hill just scored. I remember that in the game If Brady had Tyree Phil, it would be raps. No. Yes Well, but he had a way better defense like oh, come on Mahoney, I'll put up 37 points. I I do not play Mahomes 30 death. That's honestly I think Could be a key reason why a lot of people are gonna say. Oh, yeah, Brady, too I know it's better than my homes, but you were no, okay bucks bucks But she's 31 to 9. I know but defense really wrote. Okay, by the way, this guy is crazy Remembering all these things and that's like my weak suit, okay But no 30 31 Patriots beat the chief. So you beat them in that category? so He has a tiebreaker So, yeah Yes, I guess that kind of Wraps up where my homes ranks all the time You won't talk about like Super Bowl favorites for next year, you know early Super Bowl favorites Why not? I it in my opinion. It's pretty boring, but it's a lot of the same teams cuz They're just so well-built. I think Chiefs. Yeah are up there. Just we talked about that enough Ravens Their defense is just okay you this was there like This was like I'm not gonna say their only year but they're one of the years that they could have won the Super Bowl Yeah, the Chiefs were on a down year Bills were they got wiped in the divisional round Burrow was gone So this was like your year like an open I think I think this year was probably their best chance like their their best chance and you hadn't Mature. Yeah. Yeah, Lamar was playing great. Obviously he won MVP, you know, like you have Probably the best defense in the game like I don't know it definitely Like that was their best chance, but that doesn't mean that Like they're not one of the top teams still it's just gonna be just a little harder so hard If you and again, you're gonna lose some players on your team Yeah, but which actually I can't think of that many well free agents for the Ravens. I Don't know I'd have to read after looking somewhere that is that so we're kind of wrapping up a lot of the Super Bowl stuff But we'll dig deep into free agents and situations like that later 49ers, of course again, we said it's pretty boring, but they're definitely up there. What about Lions? Do you think they're gonna be super bowl favorite just from the jump? Uh, I think they have a really good chance and a seat wide open Really 49ers. They not that division though. That division seems pretty scary. No The package no, don't put this The packages are pretty decent. The Bears are asked. Okay, okay By teams, they're mid. They're always good. My team's are gonna be on a big decline. Oh We could talk about that Teams that we expect to take a big leap and teams that we expect to you know, take a big fall Yeah, I don't did you end up coming up with any teams or no? We did we can just talk about mine, so when I want me, okay, okay. Um, I I Love the Falcons, especially with their rising. Yeah Raheem Morris new head coach Arthur Smith out of it. Yeah. Also, I just want to say one thing The Steelers have one of the worst offenses and you hire Arthur Smith. Okay, I don't I don't know offensive coordinator, okay Yeah, we got a Joke right now, even though they make the playoffs every year. I know it like okay just because your team has been like Mostly defensive doesn't mean that you don't want a good offense like I don't know. That is that is a big joke I don't know what they are doing. Yeah, they're off it, but I do love the Falcons You have one of my favorite players be John Robinson. I love be John and You have yeah, if they do get a quarterback they could yeah They have the fields you trade for Justin Fields you take someone else with your eight Yeah, I agree. There were one of my big risers to and then they have good receivers Yeah, strike London and Kyle Pitt's Palpatine. Yeah still They have so much pure talent and I think a new head coach How much worse could you be like he said like it can't get much worse than Arthur I do expect them to make a run for their for their division with the Buccaneers. I Still think the Buccaneers are gonna be good. Yeah, if they do keep Baker because I think Baker is awesome Wait, the boxers still I don't know. I don't know. Well, you have Mike Evans and Chris Godwin Mike Evans Um is looking like he's gonna go to a different team Yeah, that's that's what's looking like but staying on the only team he'll go to is the Patriots, okay, but yeah Falcons I don't know just having that number eight. They have a lot of flexibility to just transform the team However, they like I think you need to work on the defense It's not that hard to improve but I think they have some good quarterbacks with AJ Torell I think is amazing, but it's a it's a good team. They're on the rise Yeah, I expect like at at least eight wins out of them. Yeah, definitely better than eight and Next team on the big rise that I have is uh, it's pretty it's a no-brainer, but Cincinnati Bengals Yeah, like Joe Burroughs coming back I guess it's okay. Okay. Yeah, I mean their defense is Actually one and might be one of the worst and they have the fifth most cast faith to you know Their defense is actually like low-key bad. Yeah, they need to address that big. Yeah, and they're all lined up I have a lot of cash space to address that Looking like they're gonna probably franchise tag T Higgins. So if you're gonna keep a lot of like I don't know if you keep it Cuz you're actually don't think that's the most you if you're keeping T Higgins You're gonna you're probably gonna pay him wide receiver one money. Yeah, even though he's your wide receiver. Yeah But I don't think it's worth it. Even though I think T Higgins is Very underrated when he's ass and fantasy never attract them, but Unless if he goes to a different team, but yeah, I don't think you keep him Actually agree with that take like it's just too much money that isn't that could be spent elsewhere that like I don't know. I think you can be just fine and still have a dominant offense with Joe Burrow to March 8th and Guys who you pay less than T Higgins because again, you have to pay him wide receiver one money But I drink me and T Higgins on the Patriots. Okay, he thinks that like every single person who's like all the free agent Josh Allen's on it. Yeah, Jalen Johnson Yeah, that's just yeah, Chris Jones Kirk Cousins Josh Allen T Higgins Johnson Brian Burns put them all in the Patriots Oh, yeah, we're actually gonna get Jalen Johnson though Christian Gonzalez and Jalen Johnson It's gonna be the new that would fly zone that would be crazy, but I'll tell you right now That's not gonna happen. And we also have Jonathan Jones On the another team on the rise that I have very exciting team that I think some people might have forgotten about The Colts Anthony Richardson. Oh, yeah. Wait, let me talk about Anthony Richardson. So again, I I'm gonna talk about fantasy football I hit him on my fantasy team and He was so good in fantasy when he was playing. I know he did get injured a lot, but he showed a lot of progress I know I also watched football. Yeah out of fantasy He was really special and I think he he has that ability. He has that arm He has that he kind of looks I can't do with that big body and you just He has more he's a more potential camp. Yeah. Yeah. I mean he's got so much just raw talent I think people would like just overlook him and the Colts for next year. I Don't know. All you need is Anthony Richardson and you're gonna improve heavily I mean he hasn't shown that much because he didn't have that much time, but he's just been he was very consistently good I mean like something that also happened was Gardner Minshew also did lead the Colts to winning games Which is like kind of like some content you Richardson like what? But it shows that if you can win with Minshew, then your team may be as bad as you think they are I think the Colts were like two and two when Anthony Richardson did go down. What's this the ACL? I think but only two and two. Yeah, you only played four games. Wow. Yeah I thought it's like a little more than that, but he's he's a little of an unknown But I just got done for one. I think I'm Jonathan Taylor. Who's The a free agent. No, they signed him, right? What John? Yeah, they signed him and Michael. Okay, I don't think Michael Pittman is a true number one yeah, like one of those like But I don't know if you're the Colts if you keep them or not. I would If I live in Colts, I'll let Pittman go and just pay the heck out of T Higgins Yeah, so you get a really like a big true number one. Yeah, I it's kind of hard to judge receivers in my opinion like It is kind of just a lot of times like If the quarterback likes the team or that receiver or if they're in a good situation like I Do think it's hard to judge raw talent of wide receivers But I don't think Michael Pittman is like a guy that you should be paying a crazy amount of money So if you can sign him for not crazy amount of money and like kind of low-end wide receiver one. Sure. I'll take it but Anything more than that? I would probably just not also I just want to say like like me not being biased But I some for some reason Michael Pittman just feels like a patriot like he's just kind of people He's a little slow. No, he runs a lot of plans. Like he's like, oh, it's slow. That's the key component Yeah, any pages why you're good runner and he's white. No, he's a he's a little mixed. Is he really? Yeah, it's white. Oh Yeah, no, I'm wrong. Okay, I guess he's not a patriot then you gotta have only what it's changing now You got a black. Oh, yeah core, yes, but I'm gonna make a lot more like Yeah, we might get past receivers Yeah, but what does that have to do with them with oh, oh Never never mind but Yeah Also, I do love Michael Pittman as a person. So how you spoken to him? Yeah, you know Videos yes YouTube videos. I did not know that. Yeah, that's each other. I don't follow Michael Pittman Yeah, I think that actually is a good component for guys that I would want on my team just like Not in turn around. Yeah It's important to be humble and be a good team player. I think Yeah, and then my last one at four four on the rise and okay I'm not gonna go crazy with this, but I think the Bears are gonna be able to rise I mean, come on We didn't do that good and you saw how our defense looked after we got Montez wet We have so much we have a lot of draft capital We don't have a second round pick but we have first and eight we could trade fields or we could trade down So many options Ryan pose our GM has had more hits than misses So I just trust him to make some good changes for the team And even if we're not as I said for scared playoff team, we're going to get better Also, let me let me talk about my team for a rise the Patriots I know it's gonna seem biased but we had one of the best defenses Yeah, absolutely horrendous offense, but our offense is gonna improve Like we're gonna have a good defense and our offense is gonna improve and I think we can get around eight wins. Okay? Say, okay. I really like Drake me, but the commander is probably gonna draft them But even if we get jigging Daniels, we get a receiver in free agency We're not gonna be stopped as we might be. Yeah No I do think I do think the Patriots actually are a decent candidate because Bears and Patriots are third and fourth in most cap space I think cap space is just nice to have you know, the GM knows how to use it You can make a lot of good changes to your team. I Mean, yeah the Patriots we just need we just need a little bit better Oh, I I think I think it all depends on your quarterback situation Which it mostly comes down to for most teams and if you make a hit on quarterback you have decent surrounding cast Doesn't definitely be better than what third that last like, you know, I mean, I think they're a riser, but like by how much come on What we hear the guys are the last at seven to last. Okay. No, no, we could we could we have a good chance to make a playoff Okay, let's let's take a moment think about that so next year when the playoffs come around Yeah, and they have like seven wins or six seven on the good year, you know Also, I know you're well, I still have a little belief a little for Matt Jones Okay, that Oh little see and this guy has some just bad bad takes Matt Jones is just not good No, no, you should trade him for first year. He made a Another reserve, but you're straight up for the last pick in the seventh round. No, because maybe you can get someone like perky No, no trade him for a bag of chips trade him for anything at this point I mean, bro. Yeah, like benched like three times. Well, okay Also, they didn't believe in him like they didn't give him any weapon. Yeah, that's true. But his Like time with the Patriots is done unless it's a good backup quarterback and say we absolutely say we use that third third overall take on Marvin Harrison and We get a quarterback like Justin Fields or we stick with Matt Jones Kirk Cousins. I don't want Kirk Cousins I don't want to hold that quarterback. Oh, yeah, that's true. Like there's no point you're not gonna win now So why go for Kirk Cousins? Yeah, so Okay are on the rise. Those are our teams on the rise, but on the fall I picked three teams They all have a lot of things in common Vikings Saints Broncos all of them Think about their quarterback situation very unknown. They might all lose their quarterbacks Yeah Broncos looking like your move on from Russell Wilson and When quarterback and none of these teams have decorative draft picks do that's another thing it's gonna be hard for these guys to or for these teams to get good quarterbacks like and And these teams don't need to have a good rosters outside of quarterbacks like all these teams finished too high than they should have Aren't gonna have a quarterback and aren't gonna really like find or have ways to replace them for a good quarterback Realistically, I disagree a little bit on that. I think the Broncos like at the beginning of season They had an absolutely horrendous defense, but I think they turned it up They have Patrick Sertan who's one of the best quarterbacks and I think the Broncos have a good core They have Jerry Judy Corlisson. They have a decent team, but you're gonna have a downgrade from Russell Wilson Well, I think it's still I don't think they also Russell Wilson can go to the Patriots, but Russell Wilson could He Like yeah, I don't think they have that good of a team. I think they're just a messy team like it's a barely scrape by wins that they shouldn't have had and Also Broncos and Saints Saints are terrible in cap space. Oh, yeah Million in debt. Yeah, it's all coming back to bite them. I remember a raise I remember and oh my god Saints definitely are falling but Broncos also are poor in cap space I think all these teams are solidified Falls. I'm not gonna lie, but Saints. Oh, I do not like their car hopefully they move on from him because No, the dairy car and their wide receiving core. Just don't mix well together Yeah, don't have Also, the Titans are gonna be like probably one of the worst teams. Yeah. Yeah, I just wanted to say that but yeah Just why not? Throw him right under the bus, but um, I agree with that Getting around 58 minutes, so I think we might wrap it up here. Yeah, so thank you guys for Listening joining us. Um Obviously this episode you weren't that prepared. We didn't have that much stuff on us. It's our first ever podcast. So not first First ever published podcast. Yeah, but yeah we we could use some suggestions and if you guys have anything to suggest in the comments or Tell us or any things you would want us to cover like, you know We'll be happy to what if I comment and they talk about the picture, huh? I I think I would notice you and I think we'll talk about the Patriots more than we should so I think we'll have that wrapped up for any Patriots fans out there, but Yeah, thank you guys for joining us and yeah, see you next episode. Bye. Bye