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Susumu Ikeda is a journalist from Japan. He made a recording of an anti-nuclear event in New York. That is where he and Seyn Laproyen met. In this excerpt of a conversation that they had (on 28 May, 2019), Seyn is critical of the United Nations (re: disarmament and prevention of armed conflicts), and makes an analogy with (the exceptional stupidity of) an insect common in Australia.