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We are back, Season 2, we are ready to get it, get it, we are just going to get it. What up Cheryl? Not much. How have you been? Good. Wonderful, wonderful. Let's get it going. Okay. This is Season 2. We are going to mix it up. Yes, we are going to mix it up. We are going to push some buttons. Let's do it. All right. Okay, with this being Season 2, we are going to have some topics, we are going to talk about some different things, but let's kick it off today with just some stuff that we probably need to address, some stuff that we need to talk about going into Season 2, so this will be our Season Opener. Hmm. Yeah. So we are going to address some different things that people are probably a little uncomfortable talking about. I know last season we kind of tapped into a lot of personal stuff. We talked about identity and being under pressure and stuff like that. We talked about a lot of relational things, too, in regards to being on islands and single people, married people, divorced people, I mean all of the above. So with that, Season 2, man, let's just kick this off today with just different things that we want to address. I've been getting a lot of feedback from a lot of people that have been tuning in. I'm so glad because I get none. But listen, those that are listening, I do tell her everything you all say. I tell her everything. But to me telling her that, she needs to know that she's the one, like they love you. Oh, stop that. That's not even cool. I'm serious. They love you. That is not even cool. They love you. Like, man. No. No. No. No. No. No. T-R-U-T-H. Well, yes. I'll be real. I can't be anything else, but still. I love it. I love it. I appreciate it. It's all because of you. It's the only way. Man, it's all you. I know. I love the fact that we get. I love the fact that we can flow off each other, and that people are actually listening. That means a lot, that people are listening. So with season two, we want to give just a few things that we can talk about, and it's a lot in the world today, of course. Oh my gosh. It's never ending. We have a topic for every day if we wanted to do this. Probably about five. Yeah. We were actually chit-chatting earlier off mic about how we love people, how we persecute people, how we treat people, how we crucify people, a number of different things. We were talking about gender roles and identity and just a number of things that can really spark a great conversation, not to bash, not to hurt, but also to have an uncomfortable conversation about people. Do people do that anymore? Oh! Do we even talk anymore? Do we even do that? You're starting something right there. Okay. I know I am. Because we don't talk anymore. No. Everything is a text. Well, not only that, but it's all short. It's all surface. Oh, here's another one. Everything now is a text. So we can post about things that we actually feel. We don't want to talk face-to-face. Well, no, because we don't really want to take ownership for it. We just want to put it out there and see what happens. I'll take ownership. Believe me. We judge the likes. Yeah. Isn't that sad? Yeah. It is. That's sad. It is. We've got to have these uncomfortable conversations. We've got to have these uncomfortable conversations. We've got to have these uncomfortable conversations. We've got to have these uncomfortable conversations. We've got to have these uncomfortable conversations. We've got to have these uncomfortable conversations. We've got to have these uncomfortable conversations. We've got to have these uncomfortable conversations. We've got to have these uncomfortable conversations. We've got to have these uncomfortable conversations. We've got to have these uncomfortable conversations. We've got to have these uncomfortable conversations. 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We've got to have these uncomfortable conversations. We've got to have these uncomfortable conversations. We've got to have these uncomfortable conversations. We've got to have these uncomfortable conversations. So, now that you brought that up, I mean, is it vulnerability? Psalms, chapter 30, verse 5, it says, Weeping may endure for a night, But joy comes in the morning. Hmm. Is that vulnerability? I think in humanity's terms, yes, absolutely it is. In spiritual terms, maybe not. Because it's only going to last for a while. But you know what I say. Vulnerability is strength, so if you consider it vulnerability, then if you consider weeping vulnerability, then to me, that's strength. I don't see it as weakness. I 100% agree with you. Me and you were talking about vulnerability, say, about a month or so ago, and you made a statement. I know I got it in my phone somewhere, but I remember it as though it was yesterday you said, Vulnerability is a superpower, or that's the way I perceive what you were saying to me. It's a superpower. It's not something that I'm ashamed of. To me, it's a power that I can tap into to become stronger than what I was yesteryear. And that's what I got from that conversation. So, I begin to look at, especially as a man, I begin to look at my vulnerability now as it gives me power over the enemy, but it also gives me power over the things that would take me back to that place of weakness. And that was just conversation. See, it's important. Conversation's important. That wasn't a text. We were talking. Yeah. And it challenged me to accept vulnerability more instead of shunning it. Shy away from it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, I get it. I mean, and we're probably going to always talk about vulnerability. Because it's a big thing. It is. It is a big thing. With everything that's going on in life, in the world, with our own selves, it's just human. Vulnerability is huge. Huge. Especially if you're trying to get into a relationship. Oh, my God. Seeking a relationship, whatever. In any case. Or trying to get your relationship to survive. Working through all that. Yep. For couples, for non-couples, even for friendship. Yeah. Even for people that you just want to interact with. You know, I struggle with the fact, and we talked about this last season, the island for me wasn't just based upon being with someone in a relationship. The island for me, personally, was everyone. I didn't want to even connect to people that I knew God had put in my life to even have as a friend. The Bible says a friend will stick closer than a brother. I pulled away from all of that because I just didn't want to end it. Fear. At 100%. Yeah. Fear. Oh, I was just about to hop back on my island a couple days ago. You know that. So, I was like, peace out, Brussels sprouts. I see that island. I'm going. I'm going to get my drink and my palm trees there. I'm hightailing it, man. But I stopped myself. Thank you. Oh, my God. I retreated from the island. It's so amazing how it's easier to go to the island, but it's a little more difficult. But see, we're living what we're talking. Like, this is not just talk. No. We're living this crap. That's the good part about having conversation about it because we are living it. I think it helps. Mm-hmm. I think it helps. It helps. Yeah, and I think a lot of people process through discussing stuff, right? I was a psychology major, and I did want to go into the office. The reason why I wanted to go into the office, because of how they talked to us about it, they said, you're helping people by having conversation. Mm-hmm. I can send someone a big email and let them read it, and if they read it, it's okay, but conversation, that's huge in the counseling world. Well, and not only that, think of the intonation and everything you miss in a text, okay? And your text can go completely the opposite direction of what you were meaning for it to do. Come on. Or your email or whatever, and then it gets you in a whole mess. It's taken out of content. Right. I've had that happen. Oh, we all have. There's no question. Oh, you sent something out of love, and they're like, man, you just sent this and that to me. Who do you think you are? I'm like, wait a second. What did I say? Roll that back. Did I say something wrong? But yeah, you're right. Yeah, and also, I think it can depend purely on the person receiving the text, too, like what mood they're in, all that stuff that if you were together in each other's presence, you would have a feeling for. Yes. But because you're not, and you're texting, and I'm a texter, so I mean, that's a weakness for me, but. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Well, at least you still do have the ability to have conversations. I love to talk. Let me know your text. Have you not noticed I love to talk? So just so y'all know, Shelby do text me a lot. I can count on one hand how many times I had a conversation with her over the phone. Now, when I'm in her presence, man, we kick it. But she don't talk to me on the phone. I'm not a big phone person. She would not talk to me on the phone. I could be driving. I don't text and drive, y'all. I don't text and drive. Shelby would text me. I didn't know you were in your car. It's not my fault. So I try to call her back, and she'd be like, ah, no. It goes through her voicemail so quick. So I'm just messing with Shelby. She's a texter. She wasn't lying. I'm not. I don't lie about nothing. Oh, my God. It's hilarious. I do like conversation. I love conversation. I love interacting because I can hear but also see more. If I'm in your presence, I can definitely see more. It's something that you can kind of pull if you are a person of maybe a spirit of discernment, and you can kind of read people more than just their words. So I like being in the presence of people, even when I have to deal with the corporate world. As a person that runs a business, I have to meet you. We're not going to agree on a contract that I'm doing unless I meet you in person because I need you to know who I am, and I need to know who you are. Right. So I love it. I can't do a text agreement. Or a text relationship either. It's just kind of hard. It's hard for me. Well, I'm not going to touch that one. She was going to touch it, so in Season 2, we're going to touch it. I promise you. I don't know what she was going to say, but we're going to touch it one day. I promise you. That's the good part about Season 2. We're going to have these conversations. It's going to be uncomfortable, and we want feedback. We want more feedback. You all respond. Leave some messages. Reach out. Send it to someone else. Play it around people, something to that sort. Now, we're not trying to get subscribers or a bunch of followers, but we definitely want people to… We want to open up conversation. Yes. Dialogue. Definitely. And allow people to really have conversation behind just topics that we're talking about. Well, it used to be back in the day that everybody had an opinion, and it was okay to share it, and it didn't mean that you all had to hate each other or wish evil things upon each other, or you couldn't be friends anymore. She said it used to be back in the day. Back in the day. Yes. I remember those days because I'm that old. Back in the day, that's how it used to be. We need to bring that back. No, because it's not that way today. No. And you're not going to stop people from having opinions. You're not going to stop people from having differing opinions. That's what makes the world the way it is. We're all different. And granted, it ain't great right now, but, you know, we're not all supposed to be cookie-cutter, and we're not supposed to hate each other over stupid… Come on. That means nothing. Season 2. We're going to dig into this stuff because we are supposed to accept each other's opinions. I don't have to agree with it. No. But I can hear you out. I don't have to go and shoot you because I don't agree with you. Exactly. But I can hear you. You have the right to live and breathe even though we don't agree on something. That part. Yeah. That part. And honestly, if I'm a believer, I'm supposed to be arm-in-arm with you regardless. Yes. Because I'm supposed to love you beyond all that. So, you know, come on, people. Again, Season 2. We're going to dig into it. We're going to dig into it. I don't think it would be the kind of camaraderie that God created if we all agreed anyway. Look at… It'd be so boring. Yeah, because everybody's like, yes, yes, yes. Somebody's got to say no. Like, I was the person… I'll tell you how I was in music. When I was in high school, I never wanted to hear you're doing a great job. I knew I was good. I've been playing trombones since I was six, so I knew I was good. I needed a teacher to tell me that sounded like crap because it pushed me. I didn't want to be told I was good. I knew I could sing. I didn't want to be… I wanted to get with people that would tell me you sound like crap because it pushed me to do better. I want a different opinion because if you hear… If everybody's just your yes-man… You're surrounded by yes-men. You can become… Or you can take on a narcissistic attitude. There's that word. That word. That word is a very popular word. I also think that you have to be able to learn from other people. If we don't allow the expression of opinion, then you're going to be stagnant in your own journey, whatever that is, and whatever topic you're dealing with. People can share their opinions with me, and I might not agree with it, but I'll think about it for a while. Sometimes I'll be like, you say stuff, and I'm like, I never would have thought of it that way. Boy, you say stuff. I have to write it down and think about it later. And then come back and be like, whoa, I didn't think about it. But that's the best part. And you don't have to agree upon it right then and there, but at least take time to think about it. And even if you don't agree later, at least you accept it. Okay, well, you said what you said. I said what I said. We said what we said. That's it. Yeah. And why does that person not have a right to live life just because they don't agree with you? I don't get that at all. Or why do you wish terrible things on people, period? Like, even the people, I don't consider myself having any enemies, and I'm sure there's people out there that think that's wrong, but I just don't see people as being my enemy. When you can wish vile things on people, I just, what is wrong with you? Yeah. Honey, let's clear up that heart. Let's get it good, because that's not what anybody wants for you. You just said something powerful. Let's clear up that heart. Yeah. It's heart issues now. Right. Because now it's seeped down. Yeah, you're right about it. Let's clear up that heart. Let's clear up that heart. I think that's where a lot of hatred stems from. Yeah, or who hurt you? You know, we've heard that before. Who hurt you? Who hurt you? You. You're mad about, and I ain't done nothing. Right. I ain't mad about this. Who hurt you? And we've all been hurt. Yeah. We've all been hurt. You can't live this life. Yeah. Yeah. And avoid being hurt. It's just not going to happen. Come on. Say it again. These are the things that we're going to talk about. These are the things that we're going to address. And we're not going to be afraid or ashamed of it. And I say that word ashamed because in season two, we mentioned something in season one that was really, really good. And I really want Shelby to dig into this one, the difference between shame and ashamed. I saw something yesterday and it blew my mind how what you said was so true that a person can feel so much shame that they'll literally just go into the worst of the worst in a cave and wait to die. But then to be ashamed of something, you quickly can get over it and move. I saw it manifest before my eyes and I was like, wow, I can't wait to hear you speak upon that in a practical way that people hear and understand the difference between. I didn't know before you said it, and I'll be honest with you, I didn't know that there was a difference between shame and unashamed. I didn't know. Well, like, you know, one's an action and one's a thing. It's a permanent situation. I can't wait. It can be a permanent situation. It can be. Yeah. And, you know, this just hit me, I don't know if it's the Holy Spirit or what, but everything in life is temporary. So whatever you're facing right now, if it's ugly, it's temporary. So don't quit and don't give up and don't let it take you out just because right now you're feeling like it's going to last forever or it's the end all be all because it's not, it's temporary. You just got to keep pushing. Just keep breathing. Wow. She said everything in life is temporary. I wrote this down. This was last Thursday. It says life. Well, I wrote this. I want to give Holy Spirit credit. Hopefully it was Holy Spirit. Life doesn't happen to you. It happens for you. I see that. But that's a perspective thing. Yeah. One hundred percent. I had to realize that I think for me because I thought that the bad things that happened in my life was because of something either I did or because of something I was connected to, maybe a curse, maybe a generational. I thought a lot of things happened to me and I never saw life happening for me. So I could never grasp the concept of me enjoying it because I thought it was against me. Against you all the time. Yes. Yeah. That's a big concept to grasp and stay in the face of, keep hold of. Mm-hmm. Now my perspective has changed. Now I see life, whatever happens, good or bad, it's still for me. I can learn something from the thing that may have went sour or bad. But I also can enjoy the things that are happening that are great. Yeah. And we take so much for granted. The simple stuff, we just don't even see it anymore as a blessing. Yes, ma'am. Yeah. There's a lot that we get caught up in and we don't, we truly don't grasp our blessings. Wow. Wow. We look past them because it's not big, I guess. Yeah. Well, and you get so comfortable in your life. Even when you're uncomfortable, you're comfortable in that discomfort. And so it's, you don't see what other people are having to deal with. You don't see, you know, people who are really suffering. Yeah. True. And you get so caught up in your own, what you think is suffering that, you know. Songwriter, I heard a song years ago. The songwriter says, there's people worse off than you. Always. Absolutely. And the thing that you're really unhappy about on your body or in your life is something someone else is praying for. Wow. Wow. Wow. So, ladies and gentlemen, be prepared. This is just the season opener for season two. So we're going to dig and dive into a lot of uncomfortable conversations. And I'm excited about it. Shelby's looking at me. I'm excited. I know she's excited. I'm excited about it. We're definitely unafraid. What are we going to learn about next? Wow. Wow. Wow. So please tune in. Season two, Word of Mouth Podcast, made in Shelby. It's going to be off the chain. Off the chain. Alrighty, y'all. Have a wonderful day. Love ya. We'll see you episode two. Bye.