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Hello, welcome to the pod. Today we are here on UT's campus recording Episode 1, Before the Lights of On Deck. Here with us, you got Esteban and Elle. I stuttered my fucking name. Okay, restart. Yeah. Okay. I didn't know you were going to call me like that. Yeah. Hey guys, what is up? Today on the pod we got Esteban and Elle and we are recording Episode 1, Before the Lights. Yeah, it's too loud. Whenever that happened. I don't think you can touch the headphones. You can hear it. Oh really? Yeah, that was like a big old clink. Wait, hold on. How can we? Why does it not have more? You use the headphones. Like I think I can, it won't bother me. And then you can tell me if I sound weird. Okay. Why is there not another thing, a headphone in the middle? Good question. All right. All right, let's take a crack at it. Let's go. Hello, welcome to the pod. Today we got Episode 1, Before the Lights of On Deck, our newest series featuring Esteban Flores and Elle. We're excited to have you all with us today. So to get into things guys. Yeah. So what'd y'all think of the food that I brought over from the team? Oh my gosh. Am I grateful for baseball food? It was super good. Love the salad and the fish, both really fresh. Yeah, it was crazy. It's like every sport on campus is able to go there and including like support staff. I wish I was athletic. Yeah. Yeah. So like in this podcast, we'll be covering like more of the behind the scenes of the production of what goes on with the baseball game. So like if you ever ask yourself what type of stuff happens before the games that one may not see, this is the podcast just for you, for the lights. And so let's start off with the interview of Max. So whenever we listen to it. Wait, so now we should talk about, or I'll talk, or one of us real quick needs to introduce like what we're going to be talking about in the podcast. And like mention division of labor. Yeah. Hold on. Let me write that up. That's pretty good. So today we will be talking about the division of labor within UT's baseball team and how the team works together to really support what we see on the field. We'll be talking about things such as nutrition. What else Esteban? Nutrition, athletic trainers, of course, analytical team, and the student managers. So more along the lines of the sports staff. Yeah. Like supporting staff. Yeah. That's awesome. Because we're such a big and like qualified team. Of course, you have to have a whole other team just to support them. Yes. Yeah. And then, so first off, let's talk about who Max Balu is, our interviewee that we conducted earlier this week. Yeah. Tell us more, Esteban. You know him best. Yes. Max Balu, he's my roommate and he's the right fielder for UT baseball. He's a sophomore from Aledo, Texas, which is where I'm from as well. And yeah, he's just a big lefty hitter and hits a lot of bombs. His right hand and hits a lot of bombs. Right now he's third in the country with it. So that's really good. Oh, wow. In the big 12. Third in the big 12. That's crazy. That's impressive. Yeah. For like two weeks he was first. So now he's like one home run behind or something like that. That's awesome. Yeah. I'm excited to hear from Max and, you know, hear from his perspective how the team works. So yeah, you just need to get a little closer. This is going to take a lot of editing, I think, but that's okay. But I mean, I feel like that's like every podcast. Okay, so then how do we want to introduce? I think interview. Well, I mean, you just introduced it, but then how do we want to segue into that? Like, do you want? I think y'all should be like, okay, let's let's talk about the trainers, what he what he had to say, and then I'll just say it for now. And then we go from there. Or what if we like read off like, think about like, the bulk of these quotes, like the bulk of like the what he said in the interview. And then we'll insert all these clips and then be like, so guys, after hearing a little bit from Max, we just want to talk about like, some of what he said in his interview, such as, you know, at point three, five, like, let's pretend that the they already have prior knowledge of all of this. And then we insert the clips all at once before we address anything about it, so that we don't have to explain it if we're, because if we're going to be inserting the clips anyways, we shouldn't explain it. Oh, okay. So what if we just say like, right? All right. So in our interview with Max, we asked him questions along the lines of athletic trainers, the nutritionists, and the support staff. And this is what he had to say. Yeah, clip it. And then we read it. Yeah. So yeah, okay. So let's let's do that part. So yeah, in our interview with Max, we asked him a lot, some describe the processes. So whether it's to support staff, the nutritionists, athletic trainers, and the analytical team, and see what they have to say. And this is what he had to say. Was that the actual take? My guess, or? Do you want to say it again? Yeah. So in our interview with Max, we asked him some questions along the lines of support staff. These included the nutritionists, the athletic trainer, the analytical team, and the support staff. And this is what he had to say. With the quotes, like, it says, like, they or like, he, like, it's not specific. How do we want to go about that when we? So like, with that, for example, whenever he was talking about the student managers, there, he was saying that they are the backbone of this program. They do all the grime work or something like that. So we just need to make sure that, like, the listeners know that it's like the student managers being talked about, or like the trainer is or the nutritionist. So what if we just break it down by department then? Because a lot of his quotes, he's, they, he was, she is, or something like that. Yeah, they're not really name dropping, or he wasn't really name dropping. Well, it looks like it's already broken down by department. Yeah, that's what I did earlier. Yeah. Okay, let's try that. Yeah. So yeah, I mean, I thought it was really interesting how Max is talking about his interactions with their trainer on the baseball team. In particular, I think his quote, he really helps me just get ready to play a game and get through practice, kind of sums it up. Like, you know, these trainers are taking on a lot of the leadership, a lot of the responsibility when it comes to like performing on the field. And obviously, that's evident that Max is grateful for that. And side topic, to get back to division labor, like these athletes, man, they can't do it all. They need those, you know, trainers, they need the support. And so I think that's a great example of divisional labor, you know, share the wealth. Sure. In our interview with Max, he gave a story of like what he did for him during the game. For example, Max was, went around, but just to clear up, he is trainer. Who is? When you say he? Yes, he is a trainer. Yes. When I'm talking, yes. His name is Tom. Whenever Max was at the bat, he went over for a bunt and the ball hit him in the hand. Mid-game, right? His hand is, fingers are big, whatever. Tom was able to wrap them up and put them back into the field as quick as possible. Wow. So those types of split-second recoveries are needed. Yeah. No, that's awesome. I mean, that's great. Sorry, guys, I'm trying to look for some, like, sorry, I'm trying to look for something that I can't remember exactly how to word it, but it would fit good. This is my fault. Sorry. Yeah. And then let's talk about the nutritionist with our interview with Max and what he's done, what she's done for him. So in our, when we asked Max to describe some of the actions the nutritionist done, she was talking along the lines of having them being prepared before they even get on the field, maybe even the night before, a day before, in terms of creatine, electrolytes, and other hydration processes. And, of course, what they put into your body is fuel. Yeah. I mean, that's awesome. You know, Estevan, I know that you have some experience on the field, too, and I'm sure you can partake in, you know, what the nutrition looks like over there. But, I mean, I think that's really neat. And just like with the trainers, that aspect of the team support really does make a huge difference when it comes to success on the field. From what we've heard from Max. Very much so. And even during the games, they're always drinking on some type of electrolytes. And it's not just your typical Gatorade, which is crazy. You know, you think as an athlete growing up, oh, a Gatorade during a game is good. No, they're drinking some other stuff that... Do they drink the electrolytes with salt in it? So much salt. It's insane. But they make it just for each player. So it's different for each player. Yeah. I drink salted electrolytes way better. Yeah. All right. And then let's get into the analytical team and what Max had to say about that. Yeah, totally. I mean, looking back on the clips of Max that we shared with y'all, I think a key part of that interview that would be important to focus on was his quote at 340. And he said, in particular, the only way I can do that is through the analytical team, because they cut that. No, you can say because they set it up and talk about the cameras. I think we should say the rest of the quote. Yes. It makes more sense. I think an important part of what Max had to say about the analytical team was at 340 when he said, cameras are on us at all times. So we can go back and look at our bats or pitcher. So I'm a hitter, so I get to look at my mechanics. The only way I can do this is through the analytical team, because they are the ones who set it up. I mean, enough said. Elle, what do you think of that? Oh my God. Sorry. Hold on. We need... Sorry, I don't know why I'm feeling bad at this right now. I can normally talk, but this is stressing me out. I don't like not having a script because I don't... Like, hold on. I think we just fake it till we make it. I know. Baseball just doesn't come naturally to me about something to talk about. That's the problem. Like, can I... You can just jump in whenever as an answer to someone and be like, yeah, totally. Something will come to you. We're talking about the sports analytical team. Like, if I say something, yeah, you can talk about how... Oh, okay. I see how they're working with this or whatever. So like, okay, I'm going to say this. This is one of the things I wanted to say. Yeah. So like the sports analytical team, they help out all sides of like the players and the coaching staff as well. For example, Max tells a story about how they use an app to look at every pitcher in the country just to get like some prep on them for the weekend. Every pitcher in the country? Every pitcher in the country. There's a video somewhere out there of him pitching. Wow. And it's there for all players, all coaching staff, and they study it like a book. Yeah. It's insane. Like you come in before practice and they're in there watching film. And how do you see like the analytical team working alongside the teams like the nutritionist and the trainers? Yeah, yeah. So in our observation, we go a little more into that. But whenever in terms of the, like you said, the analytical team, he's always there with a video for coach. Yeah. He's right next to coach basically after every game and before every game. Yeah. The only time he's not there is of course during the game. I mean, that alone is just such a great example of, you know, such an effective team and how they can come together, share responsibilities, you know, to really push the UT baseball team towards success time and time again. Like we all know. Yeah. And then lastly, at the end of the interview with Max, we were talking more about the long lines of what like a post game looks like. Yeah. And he talks about different parts of different departments that help out. For example, he talks about the recovery in terms of Tom and like being postgame thorough and along those lines. And this is what he had to say about that. So after the game is played, you go into the clubhouse and there's a postgame meal ready for you. It's really good stuff, which allows me to get something to eat, something quick. Because like last night, for example, we got out at 1110. Like that's the time we left. Like I was able to leave the field, which is a little late. And also he also talks about what responsibilities are done are not really pertaining to him. For example, he talks about I noticed how our equipment is picked up and where it has to go without being a responsibility of the players and the mounds tarped and all those sorts. So like that's a job. So what I will be doing. Yeah. And I think, you know, for me and Al maybe and some of our listeners, I'm sure you can relate to this. Not everyone knows all the details that go into the baseball team support. Not everyone knows all the issues that have to be dealt with after a game. Yes. But I'm sure that's mounds. Yeah. Mounds of effort. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you for that one. But I'm sure there's a lot that goes into that that we can't see. So it's interesting to see how all these different members of the support staff really come together to share those roles. Yeah. And let's conclude the interview with this quote Max says. There's a lot of little things that I feel like that goes unnoticed. All these different roles are what makes this program so special. And that's why UT is held to a certain standard when it comes to those types of characteristics. I like that. All right. Let's go into observation. We'll pass on a thank you to Max listeners just so you're following. We're going to move forward and talk a little bit about what actually goes on in the day in the life of a baseball player at the University of Texas. Also along the lines of what like the behind the scenes of course. And the support. Yes. Support mainly. So that's what we're focusing on. Okay. Hold on. So just so you're following along listeners. We are going to move forward into some observation talk about the baseball team support staff and how they function in the day in the life as a team. Yeah. So I did a observation of what. Maybe we just wait a second. Yeah. Hey Aaron. What up? Do you like aloe? Oh yeah. I kind of. Awesome. Thanks. All right. Here we go. So yeah. Let's do an observation of what a travel day looks like. So I conducted this observation when we went to Kansas State this past two weeks ago from this podcast date. And so let's first off let's start off with the packing. It's a lot of stuff to actually pack for one. For example, all the equipment and gathering in terms of bats, helmets, and those sorts. Not including what the athletic trainers have to pack in terms of all their medicines, their tapes, their machines. They bring thousands of dollars worth of machines with them for recovery before and after games. Nutritionists, of course, packing snack bags for all the players and also food for before the game as well. And let's go over exactly what one may see. For example, whenever we actually show up to the field after a plane ride, the managers are responsible for driving to the field and setting up the dugout in coordination with the other teams as well. Those in terms include laundry and other equipment tasks. The strength coach will also set up their stations for players to get warmed up. And also the athletic trainers will set up their, it's like their emergency bag if something happens. And actually that actually did happen during our practice. Some kid hurt his hamstring. No way. Yeah. So like he had to work. And they got the emergency bag out. Yeah. And went up to him, make sure he's okay. Got him to the side. Yeah. And Tom, as we stated earlier, the athletic trainer, he was able to help him out, get him a little stretched, but he did not go. So from what I'm hearing, without Tom, that guy would be out with his hamstring. Yeah. And then those other members of the team, his knuckle would be out. And there goes two players. Yeah. But you need to get them back in practice. Yeah. So, wow. Okay. That's awesome. Yeah. And, and of course, like post-game, rather than in terms of helping the kid that got hurt, but also like the food as well. Like we came back, there was food ready for us. There's also per diem, which is money given by the university. The sports analytical team, as I stated earlier, it's, they go straight to the coaches in terms of prepping for the pitchers the next day. Yeah. Yeah. That's neat. Elle, say the quote at the very bottom, as we see. Like just me say it? Yeah. So like, you're so good at talking. You really like are so good at talking. Yeah. Put a mic in front of me and I won't be. And about something I, well, I do, but I don't know what to say. I want to talk, but I don't know what to say. You're really good at talking. Just say like random things that relate to the conversation. But I don't really just be like, yeah, for sure. I think the majority of our points, according to the rubric, the only thing we're being graded on is professionalism, engagement, and that we like deliver a key takeaway. But I can't talk like professional, that's an issue. I think professionalism just means like, you sound. It also, it talks, you can use like humor. Yeah. It talks about that. Like you, like you both like sound like really put together when you talk and you sound very put together. Okay. Do you just want me to say this? Like, yeah. So as like, as you see, there's like, I see there's a lot of different roles that just in terms of the travel day. As I see, there's just a lot of different roles that are needed to help with practice and travel schedules. Yes, of course. And that's not even, we didn't even talk about the player of ops. We have one person that's dedicated to helping out with, in terms of setting up transportation, hotels. So I have a question. It sounds like there's a lot of different people that go into this equation that, you know, like we've said before, you know, the average Joe, the average baseball fan probably doesn't know about. Definitely. Yeah. But is there like a time where like all of these different people who are a part of this support team have the opportunity to like meet as a team and really like a team aside from the actual baseball team, but the support team, do y'all work together like a full functioning team in your opinion, or is it more of a combination of individual roles? I like that question. Ask that in the interview or write that down before you forget. Okay. Okay. I kind of think it fits well here in this part of the conversation. Yeah, we can do that. Okay. All right. Yeah. Okay. So I answered the question. Yeah. Oh, yes. So maybe at least, at least three times a semester or season, y'all's team meets the support team, support team meets. And yeah, it's just generally it's a very unprofessional sit down. We're just talking about, hey, how's everything going? Is everything up to date? Yeah. And for example, it will be the managers, which is five people, five student managers. Uh huh. Then there will be the player of ops direct, I mean, director of ops. Sorry. She will be there. Of course, the athletic trainer, Tom. Yeah. He'll be there alongside with his two supports. Athletic trainers are students here, which is very, it's a great program. Totally. And then sports analytical team is a team of, I believe six or seven people. Wow. So like, there's not just one person. Yeah. There's a whole team on just that as well. That's interesting. And yeah, it's like its own full functioning team for sure. And we would, we'll sit down like and have a conversation, make sure everything's going well. You're talking more than me. You wear them. You wear these because you should talk. You're good. Maybe it will help you like not feel like you're being recorded if you don't have my headphones on. Yeah. Okay. Maybe the headphones are what's going to a day at the tank as well is so as, as the food we tried earlier, which y'all said was pretty, pretty well. Yeah. It's good. Yes. Well, as an understatement, um, man could not cook this myself. Oh my. And it's like that every day, which is crazy, man. And they do it for lunch and dinner. Wow. So like what's y'all eat for breakfast? Uh, that's, they have a, uh, pick up and go, but the tank opens at 10 30. So like, it's not that bad. Of course. Question. Have you ever seen Bijan Robinson in the tank? Yes. I've actually seen him in my apartment as well. And like he was in your apartment. Yeah. Which is crazy. I was getting a workout in and he walks in, just getting some stretching. I was like, in your apartment, in my apartment. All right. And this, he used to live there apparently, but of course that's not apparently wait. So was he in the gym or in your literal unit? No, like in my, in the gym. Okay. Okay. You made it sound like he was like walking into your bedroom. No, no, no, no, no. But yes, it's crazy though. You see all the big name athletes. Uh, versus you're going to see everyone when you walk in all sports. Have you ever met Xavier Worthy? I've seen him, but I've never went up to him. Well, I will tell you all a secret. Bijan Robinson gave me a ride home once last year. Wow. Yep. What? Yeah. So that's actually crazy for real right now. Yeah, I am being for real. And I posted on my private story and literally no one slid up. Cause I don't think anyone believed me, but me and my roommate, was it really him? Yes. Just wait. I know what his truck looks like now. So basically me and my roommate had just gone to, um, to a CBT formal came back and we were like, Oh, let's go to pizza press, not pizza press, dollar size, go to dollar slice. Bijan is walking out to his truck. And I was like, Oh my God, this is our moment, Sophie. So then I have a little bit of proof. Actually, I have a photo of, um, but this is the most Kate story ever. But yeah, so basically walk up to him and I'm like, Hey, like, can we have a ride home? And then he was like, sure. Hop in. He's such a nice guy. I that's yeah, for sure. Yeah. I was in August. The first CBT formal. No, this was last year. This was their Christmas formal, but regardless it was. Yeah. As you pull that up, I'm going to talk a little more about the tank. Okay. Yeah. So, um, of course there's so many different things you see this, that for example, there's always a gluten-free section. There's a buffet section, a breakfast section, sandwiches that you get to make, but you have someone make it, but you just pick out what you want. A pasta bar, a smoothie bar, of course, everything. And then of course, a salad bar, parfaits that you make on your own. It's just very great quality food. I just think that's really awesome. Um, cause you know, knowing how busy college students are and I can't imagine student athletes, uh, what their schedule is like, like having a team of support that was there simply to help them take care of themselves and take on a little bit of weight of their responsibility. Oh yeah, for sure. That's, that's really cool. That's special. One of the responsibilities, for example, we have a kid that's, um, he's trying to gain weight. He's a, he's a tall, tall person and he needs to gain some weight. Yeah. So the nutritionist, he, she will make, um, him a special drink of some sort that's a mass gainer. Tastes very well. He had, I tried his drink. This is why I know about it. And it's like this big old cup, like this big. And it's like, here you go. Just for you. Write your name on it. It's like made just for you. That's awesome. So do a lot of the players have like specialized meal plans or does it just depend? Not really, sorry. It's more of long, like they're apparently they pay like some type of class or something like the nutritional sit down with them. Hey, you need more of this or whatever. And also like whenever we sit down eating there, a nutritionist may come by and say, Hey, you might want to add a little more protein or you need some more vegetables. Don't forget to your need some vitamin K, whatever it may be. And she like, like put in a suggestion for the players. Yeah. Yeah. And that's cool. Okay. Um, should we go into the interview with me? Yeah. And Ellie, you can like ask all those questions too, if you want. Ask the interview question. Yeah. You should ask the interview questions. Okay. No. Okay. I don't think I like that. How do I introduce it? All right. We're going to move into the segment. Okay. So the beauty about this too is that you can cut anything. Yeah. But so you, you have the, uh, like the point of view of someone that doesn't really have that much knowledge of all this. Right. Which is good. Like, so ask the questions that come to your mind whenever, like it may be. Okay. And I'll, I'll, I'll help it out. I can introduce it and then you ask the questions. Yeah. Okay. So, uh, Esteban, Ellen, I are going to actually ask you a few questions now, uh, you know, knowing that I'm not sure if we told the listeners, but Esteban is a trainer on the baseball team. So aside from, um, he's what? Student manager. Okay. Yeah. Hold on. So I'm not sure if we told the listeners, but, uh, aside from being a part of our team, Esteban is a student manager for the baseball team. Uh, so, uh, that, that in itself has really given us a lot of insight as to how the baseball team really utilizes the division of labor. Uh, and Esteban, Ellen, I are just going to ask you a few questions now to really pick your brain on, uh, how you work as part of this well-oiled team. For sure. Let's go. All right. So can you describe the main roles that you're responsible for at a typical practice? Yes, most definitely. Uh, so our director of ops, she'll send out a, a list of what we're going to be doing during practice. And those lists have like certain things on there that of course the managers have to set up. So whether it's getting machines ready on the field, which is, we do like this bunny station and then also setting up screens, buckets. Also, even before players get on the field, players will ask for ground balls, which is whenever I'll go out there and actually hit ground balls for 30 minutes for the players. Uh, also some of the other responsibilities are of course the batting cages and setting that up, which it may be feeding machine, which is they hit like these baseballs out of the machine that those really hard. Yeah. And so one of us would do that, throw BP, whatever it may be. Now what's BP? Uh, batting practice. Yes. There's so many little terms on the baseball field that just go unnoticed. So anytime that happens, ask me and I'll explain it. Of course. And then that's just baseball related stuff, but you also have to think of, uh, keeping the clubhouse clean in terms of laundry. What's the clubhouse? The clubhouse is where all the players' locker rooms are. Okay. And of course where the coaches have their own little section as well, making sure, and one of the main responsibilities of ours is making sure all the players have everything associated with the game. So a player literally walks in on campus, doesn't need anything. Like they don't really need to bring anything. This is, of course, that's provides it for them. The university provides it. Wow. So the helmets they wear, the bats they swing, the gloves that put on their hands, the uniforms, the cleats, the hats, everything. Do they have a laundry service? So yes, we have a, uh, well, as a manager, all we have to do is pick it up and drop it off. And we drop it off at the football stadium where they do the laundry. Wow. And it's a team over there as well. Yeah, that's cool. That sounds like some labor. Uh, now I guess the next question for you is, do you want me to say it? Okay. So, oh my gosh. Sorry. Okay. So moving forward, um, how do you collaborate with trainers, nutritionists, analysts, and just all the other different teams? So with the trainers, mainly it's, of course, our departments are not always the same. However, there's like, there's certain types of communication as needed. For example, the trainers, they have their own special towels for the game. It's like these Gatorade ones you see on TV. Those are the ones, right? As a manager, we help with that cleaning, folding, and giving it to them. Simple task, right? Simple stuff. Yeah. And then like nutritionists, uh, it's mainly helping out with like prepping the food. So before every game, there's always a pregame meal and we help them set it up, take it out, throw it away, whatever it may be. And of course we get to eat it as well, which is a plus. Total plus. Yeah. And like, it's always good stuff. Like cobbled bobs, covered brie. It's so good. And it's so much food too. So you literally grab as much as you want. Oh, that's the best. Yeah. And the analytical team, uh, we helped them out with, in terms of transporting their, their, uh, equipment. For example, when we went to Manhattan where we helped them with loading the stuff, making sure it got to one place to another. And it wasn't broken of course, because they have multiple cameras, multiple expensive stuff. Yeah. Wow. I like how y'all's, uh, all those roles kind of come together. I think that shows a lot of, you know, what sets our team apart. Yeah. It's more like you, you're just helping them out, which is the main thing. Cause we all just need to help each other out and make sure that we, we do our job for a lot of players just to worry about playing. And that's the main goal. Yeah, that's awesome. And I guess the follow-up on that, uh, you know, how do you help to foster cohesive team culture within the UT baseball team? Yeah. So with that, I have to say the way we foster cohesion is making sure that it's just, we're there for a great vibe, of course, you know, like we're there just to make sure how each player is doing well, each player is treated correctly, like for the starters. How would you describe a great vibe? Well, one thing is making sure all of our tasks are just done well. Yeah. So what, before every game you go up to the starters, of course, and make sure they have everything ready. For example, uh, Jared Thomas, like I'll always go up to him and say, Hey, everything good for your game day? You need batting gloves? You need this? You all good? And whatever you need, I'll get it for them. Elle, do you want to go back and ask these questions, or if you think any of those we haven't covered? Yeah. I don't think we should say the bullpen one. We probably don't need to cut them out. Yeah, for sure. I think you kind of answered some of these questions already. To be honest, I have a good one for the bullpen. Okay, I can do that. Okay, so I want to go back to kind of like game day. So what are your roles in the bullpen on game days? Yes. Okay. So with that, as we have five managers, as I stated before, right? And each person has their own little role as well. So like I'm in charge of helping out the infield. There's another manager in charge of the outfield, another one with catchers. We have two with catchers and two pitchers as well with that. So as a role for managers in the bullpen, every guy you see that comes into the game, there's a manager warming them up before. And they will always be in the pen the whole time and making sure they're ready to go. So like there's a little, there's like a spectrum of like different roles within the manager teams and how they're assigned to as well. Yeah. Man, that's neat. And to go back to divisional labor, I know that's been a theme along our conversation today, just because it's so important and such a huge team like this, how do we see divisional labor within the baseball team support staff? Well, there's, there always is a lot of different departments that just help out the team. Yeah. Like share responsibility. Share responsibilities for sure. But for example, you can't ask the athletic trainer to help out with the food. Yeah. They have their own roles, of course, that require them to stay there a certain amount of time and help out the players. So making sure like those type of needs are met, like there's the health need, the physical needs as well that need to be met. Yeah. Yeah. So definitely I feel like the specialized roles do increase efficiency for the team. But how do you think this division of labor overall benefits the team like to be more efficient? That doesn't make sense. That doesn't make sense. No, no. No, it doesn't. Kate, you ask it. No, no, no. You ask it. That doesn't sound right. Just say, yeah, I guess follow up on that, Esteban. Where do you see the greatest benefits of the structure you all have going on right now regarding the division of labor? Say that. What'd you say? I need to write it down. Sorry. I said a lot of us. Well, I guess a follow up on that. Well, okay. So I guess a follow up on that is, oh, okay. So I guess a follow up with that is how do you see that benefiting the baseball team? I'm trying to think of a good answer. So yeah, with the division of labor, of course, it's just having different departments to help out the program. Like this is plain and simple, but it's very much, very much needed. Very much needed. And making sure each player or each person is doing their job well, for example. Like we need that. Like our analytical team person, right? He will be working on stuff from 10 to 2 if he has to. Our athletic trainers will come in two hours before the game if a player needs it and drive them to wherever they need to go to get their arm looked at whenever it's needed. So having people like that are dedicated to this program and helping each other out and helping the program out will just benefit the UT program as well. Totally. I mean, and obviously we know that like this system and this structure of a team is well-tested out, well-known, well-studied. Everyone knows that dividing up tasks by strength increases efficiency. But are there any potential downsides to this? Are there any potential benefits to this? Downsides to this, you know, high level of divisional labor within such a big team? Well, just like any other job, this is a job that requires extensive amount of time. I spend a great amount of time up at the field, but I love every minute of it, if I'm being honest. How many hours do you work a week? Over 40. Yeah. 39, mostly. 39. Do you just cap it off at that or what? Can't talk about that. Yeah. But yes, like around 30 to 39. That's cool. Because if you work over 40, it's like your type of labor law. But anyways, yeah. Around 30. Yeah. So what I'm hearing is UT does support Yes. But of course slave labor. No, no, no. We do not put that in the pod. But for the most part, it's just also as a student, you know, there's the academic side of this, you know, and What percent of y'all's team is made up of students of the support team? Support team? Well over half. Really? All the analytical team is students here. All the managers are students. Yeah. And the athletic trainers that help out, Tom, we have three or four of them. They're students as well. So how many are post grad? I believe two. Two. Gotcha. Man, that's cool. Well, guys, unless there's anything else we should talk about, you know, I think we reiterated a couple times, you know, thank you, Estevan, for bringing in Max for that portion of the segment today. But we did talk about how the multiple roles that go into this team, student managers, the athletic trainers, the nutritionists, the analytical team, and how they all work together and share responsibilities to really support the success of the baseball team. So great stuff. I mean, we all like talking about divisional labor. We're doing it right now. Yeah. And so is the baseball team. Yeah. What's crazy is we only talked about the support staff. Like we haven't even covered the event staff, let alone the coaching staff and those ideas that are required with their job. And if you're interested within these next few episodes of this season, we'll go over these topics along the lines of what these players have actually offer about these. Oh, let me say that again. If you're interested in the next few episodes in this season, we will talk about the topics along the lines of what we just discussed in terms of the coaching staff and the event staff. Well, thank you on behalf of us for listening to lights out before the lights on episode one of on deck before the lights. I have to say, Ellen Estevan, I think this episode was a home run. I just put that. Well, should we say a slogan? Let's say, like, thank you. Or wait, let's say home run on three. One, two, three. Home run. Say it more dramatic. Come on, Estevan. You want to say it? Home run. Was that better for you? Aaron, you owe us. You were late. Come on. Yeah. Yeah, we do. Oh, my God. All right. Home run. All right. There we go. Nice. Yes.