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Beyond the Binary is a discussion about the idea of more than two sexes in different cultures. Some cultures have women, men, and others. Some people challenge the idea of choosing between two genders. There are individuals who identify as third sex, neither men nor women, called hyras or aravannis. They dress in women's clothing and act in an overtly sexual manner. In some cultures, third sex people are not considered gay. Non-binary people identify as something other than man or woman and use genderless pronouns like they and them. Society's views on gender fluid and non-binary people are mixed, with many facing discrimination and lack of acceptance. Medical professionals need to better understand and support non-binary patients. Children with non-binary gender face additional challenges, including discrimination in schools. Some transgender and non-binary patients have difficulty accessing gender-affirming healthcare due to discrimination and costs. Providers and healthcare systems What's up everybody? Today we will be informing you about Beyond the Binary. I'm JMT Franklin and I'm here with my co-host, Soraya Williams. What is Beyond the Binary? For those of us brought up within a binary system of sex and gender, it may be difficult to think outside the boxes. However, in some cultures the idea that people come in more than two sexes is commonplace. In other words, these cultures have women, men, and others. In our own culture as well, some people challenge the idea that one must choose between only two sex or gender categories. How do you feel about different cultures feeling or having more than two sexes? I personally don't have an issue with it. It's just kind of like you like who you like or, you know, you want to be whatever you want to be, you can do it. I think that everybody's outside opinion really shouldn't matter if it's what matters to you. Yeah. I mean, I'd probably say the same thing, but I would probably say I just don't get it. Like, what else can you be like if you don't have a penis or a vagina, you know what I'm saying? I mean, I don't understand it, but I also don't judge nobody, so whatever, you know, they want or happy with, then go for it. I know it's a country in, I mean, the country is, uh, I think in India, where they have, I guess they call hydras and a ravenous, I guess. I don't, I don't really know how to say the name, but, um, they don't, they don't call themselves men, nor women. So can you talk about that a little bit? Yeah. So, um, according to, um, Humira Jami, people who identify as third sex, neither men or women, are hyras and a ravenous by definition, when compared to their peers, men, and those who practice religion show higher negative sentiments regarding hyras, which supported and constructed fidelity on the scale. The main goals of the current center are determined, um, the influence of gender and religiosity in these sentiments, as well as to create valid and reliable skill for measuring attitudes about hyras and the hyra community. Wearing women clothing and adopting feminine names, hyras distinguish themselves by, from women by acting in a far more over, overtly sexual manner. Um, despite having, um, feminine appearances and attire, hyras are frequently born as men. Uh, castration is a Hindu ceremony in which males genitalia are removed as offering to the goddess, um, the chara mata. This is a choice made by many, but not all. They dress extravagantly, make sexual jokes, and wear their hair loose. In contrast, respectable Indian women, due to their inability to procreate, hyras are viewed as men in their community rather than women. The hyras are called Aravannis in Southern India. In addition, individuals may change their gender through surgery or medication. Individuals also dress like women, women, and claim that gender building is their central to their identity, rather than attempting to emulate real men and women. In their respective cultures, um, third sex people are not considered to be gay. Um, for example, I want to say it was, uh, Fahafn have sex with men who identify as heterosexual. Um, they often initiating young men and giving them practice at having sex before they become sexually active with a woman. Um, most straight men in Samoa report having, uh, Samoa report having had sex with a Fahafn. At some time in their lives, this is not considered to be gay sex. In other words, a person's sex is defined in terms of their social, social role, rather than in terms of their anatomy. Third sex people may be accepted in cultures where homosexuality is strongly stigma, stigmatized, such as India and Samoa. We hear a lot in today's world about gay, straight, trans, etc. But there are, of course, a lot of countries that believe in more than two sexes, which is non-binary. For example, a non-binary person is who is neither girl nor a boy is referred to as non-binary. In addition to being In addition to being a phrase describing a particular gender identity, it also refers to someone who identifies as something other than man or woman. Since pronouns like they and them are genderless, non-binary people frequently refer to themselves by them. Okay, final question. Um, how do you think that society views, um, gender fluid or like non-binary people today? Um, I feel that a lot of them are not accepted, um, and not wanted. And that's why like a lot of people feel uncomfortable or stay like where they at because they're more accepted to where they come from. Um, like the U.S., I mean, a lot of you, like in the U.S., gay people go through a lot of hate and a lot of, you know, like a lot of drama and stuff because of who they are. And they're just not accepted. But at the same time, you got to deal with it because, you know, that's what you want. And that's also who you are. But you also got to deal with what people are going to say about you because that they don't agree with it. But, um, I mean, I just feel that, uh, they were definitely, they're definitely mistreated, um, unwanted. And yeah, that's, that's what I would definitely say about it. And like the fact that a lot of them trans, I feel that trans people get more hate than gay people, like gay men, gay women. Uh, and it's because, you know, why change your parts to be like a female transitions to a male and wants to be, you know, with a woman and be like, why not just be gay? You know? So, um, yeah. So, um, speaking of trans, like how you feel about trans, like people, just transitioning into female, male, male woman. I think that, I mean, if it's what you want to do, then do it. I do think that, you know, you're spending a lot, that's a lot of money to transition. And, you know, sometimes if you do it and you don't like it, well, that's a lot of money you just wasted or you're doing it. And if you're, you got to do it and be, you know, content with what you did, because if you do it and you have, you know, people are always going to say something about you no matter what you do. So you got to do it knowing that you love your, you love yourself. You love, you know, what you're about to do. You're all in because if you do it and you're not people talking about you already, it's just going to make it 10 times worse. Yeah. Yeah. I found something when I was looking into this and, um, it says that, um, a lot of members of the medical community don't know how to interact with non-binary patients, um, respectfully and recognize their unique needs and barriers to care, which I just found like, that's just crazy because as a medical professional, you shouldn't know, you know, what you need to do. I found a source, um, by, by, uh, Kirkus Reviews. Um, they were talking about how a transgender novelist and performer, Alabanza, who is based in the United Kingdom, the author, um, deconstructs sentences to reveal important social and personal ramifications. He stated that to be gender, gender non-conforming or feminine, feminine, or to put it simply to appear like a guy in a dress is to know deeply that the world is disordered, uncomfortable, and senseless. He, right. It is absurd that individuals continue to be terrified of others who have never harmed them. The authors and a lot analyzes of how rigid classification, um, and thinking underpin gender and racial stereotypes is one of the more perspective, perceptive passages. So yeah, that's, uh, basically what we was talking about, about how people, you know, are judged and, um, are uncomfortable and can't be around people they'd never even met or even meet new people because they will be talked about and not accepted because of who they are, where they come from. Children with non-binary gender, they face additional challenges. Um, they may encounter discrimination in schools and lack of support from teachers and peers. And in 2015, um, a U.S. transgender survey, 16% of non-binary students reporting being physically attacked in school because of their gender identity and 10% left school because of the mistreatment. Um, parents may prevent children from expressing their gender identity and it may even be more difficult to identify clinicians with experience treating non-binary children than it is to find experienced clinicians for non-binary adults. Physicians can help children by assessing support, providing information on local support groups, educating teachers and school officials, and connecting families to national organizations such as gender spectrum and gender diversity. Um, specialty clinics for transgender and non-binary patients have been created by academic medical centers and community-based health systems focused on gender and sexual minorities. However, not all patients will want to use it or have access to it. Um, to ensure access to gender-affirming healthcare for non-binary people, more broadly, best practices will have to be disseminated, um, beyond specialized centers. Providers and healthcare systems can implement several initiatives to improve care for gender minority patients. Um, kind of going back to what I said about they don't have, like, adequate medical care and some people don't know how to work with them, um, 19% have been refused treatment on basis of their gender identity, 23% have avoided treatment, um, in the previous year for fear of discrimination, and 33% have avoided medical care because of costs. These negative experiences may explain why in two studies only 28% and 40% of gender minority persons said that their healthcare provider was aware of their gender identity. Fear of discrimination is greater among non-binary people who are otherwise socioeconomically marginalized, such as people of color, disabled people, low-income people, and undocumented immigrants. Okay, you was talking about, um, children being non-binary. Um, what do you think about that, like, as a child? Um, I think as a child, you still kind of, you got to grow up a little bit, you got to live a little bit. I feel like for you to kind of put yourself in that, that position or in that box of, oh, I don't, I don't want to be a boy or a girl, I kind of want to be, you know, whatever, I just feel like, you know, you're just so young still, you need a little bit before you can really make that decision because, you know, growing up, your brain is still developing, you're still coming into who you are. On top of that, you know, our generation especially, like, it's just kind of hard to do anything without somebody saying something about you. So, I mean, you know, you're going to get talked about and from a young age, you're going to have, you know, everybody else's opinion on you because you decided to do that without really, you know, growing up. Yeah, I would, I would, I would definitely agree. Um, I've been on social media a lot, of course, and how generation everybody do, so, but, um, it was a little boy, um, he, he's gay and a lot of times his parents talk about, you know, or he'll say something about him being a girl and he's like eight years old, he do like gymnastic and dancing and stuff and, of course, when you, and he grew up around women, so you know how that be, like, sometimes when, yeah, you don't, yeah, so he, what he see, that's what he do and I just, I just, I feel like you should most definitely grow up and develop because you're not mature enough, like, you just, it's what you see right now and I would most definitely agree and, um, not saying that if that's his decision to be a trans at a young age that he would disagree, I mean, you know, disagree with it in the long run because, um, what's the little boy, the boy of, uh, Jesse, the, like, Zuri, I seen yesterday that he's a girl now and, uh, when I was watching the video, somebody was reacting to, like, Jesse Cass then and now and they were showing, like, the ages and stuff and they showed the boy, I don't, I don't know his name, you know what I'm saying, I don't know his name, but, um, yeah, but you can tell in the show that he was, yeah, a little, you know, he acted like more feminine and, uh, I don't know when he trans but, uh, they didn't recognize him when they showed the now because he's now a girl and, um, so I would, I would say a lot of people, um, don't, you know, they stick with it, they don't, you know, uh, what I, I guess, um, disagree with it in the long run, um, so I would say, I mean, in my opinion and what I would do if I had children, I would most definitely let them just grow and experience a lot of stuff and, uh, before they try to, you know, before they try to pick who they want to be, you know, so. Yeah, um, I actually have seen videos before, um, there was this woman who had, she had just had a baby, so the baby was a brand new newborn and, um, she referred to it as a gay baby already. It was, it was weeks old and, you know, that's kind of where our generation comes in because, you know, as parents you're already kind of putting that on them. Yeah. So they're gonna grow up, you know, thinking how you've talked to them since literal birth, um, so that's just kind of something I don't necessarily, you know, agree with because I just feel like as a kid grows, they need to learn, you know, their own beliefs, their own, you know, how they see stuff and I just feel like, you know, if that's how you talk to them from the womb, that's just how it'll, they'll grow. So after reading, um, the textbook, they talk about genderqueer, um, in American society, um, some people permanently, um, adopt an identity that is neither female nor male. Um, they do not see themselves as transition from one sex to another. Instead, they see themselves as others like them as a third sex category. For example, for example, um, Grammy-winning musician Sam Smith said in a 2019 interview, I am not male or female. I think I float somewhere in between or somewhere in between. Or they may view sex and gender as continuous like sliding scales on which a person can place him, herself at any point. Some transgender people take up life as other sex while keeping their biologically given bodies intact. They are, they are men with vaginas and women with penises. People whose gender identities are neither exclusively male nor female, but instead are outside the gender binary, often refer themselves to genderqueer, gender expensive, non-binary, or a gender. That the later term means having no gender at all. Another term used is community and gender fluid, meaning a person who moves between genders or whose gender fluctuates and changes across time. As we learn, changing language, language can be a way of raising consciousness and drawing attention to social and political issues. People now even have the option of non-binary pronouns, which may be a little confusing at first. Transgender activists have certainly succeeded in raising consciousness about gender variability. Just to kind of go off of that, there's a study on National Library of Medicine that genderqueer, gender fluid versus the general public. So the general public is going to be the higher number, and gender, you know, fluid, queer, and all that will be a lower percent. So gender minority people are more likely to live in poverty, 29% versus 12%, be unemployed, which is 15% versus 5%, be uninsured 14% to 11%, be the victim of an intimate partner violence 24% to 18%, have attempted suicide 40% versus 4.6%, have experienced severe psychological stress in the past month 39% versus 5%, and have HIV 1.4% versus 0.3%. 30% have been homeless at some point, and 9% report having physically assaulted in the previous year because of their gender identity. Gender non-conforming persons are more likely than transgender persons to have experienced mistreatment in school 70% versus 59%, or by police 29% versus 22%, and are less likely to be quote-unquote out in the workplace 30% versus 44%, or with families 35% versus 64%. All in all, although many transgender individuals identify as women or men, not everyone identifies within these binary identities. As more people become comfortable expressing their identity outside the binary pronouns beyond she, her, hers, and he, him, his have emerged. Thank you for listening to our podcast. Hopefully you've understood and took away from what we said took from what we said about beyond the binary.