PODCAST EPISODE 5

hello and welcome back to the reverse Oreo podcast I'm your host Brandon and these are my co-hosts today we're gonna have a bit of a short episode cuz I have a migraine Kyle's a bit tired I mean I can go on for hours and hours you're the one flaking here man you flaked in the gym yeah we're all we're all we're all down I understand that was sick down today it's okay so what we're gonna have a bit of a short podcast shorter than usual you should have like around 30 minutes probably yeah 20-25 today yeah well what are some pressing issues we discuss well we got to be pressing issues we'll talk we just talk about the summer yeah I mean it's not much to talk about the thing is I ever I don't I never really planned my summer so I'm not gonna lie I mean all I'm planning to do is work really hard and yeah work and maybe we may be going a trip well we'll see maybe yeah we'll see we'll see if we have enough money I mean to be honest in the summer houses is not as expensive as you think we're gonna be thought let's talk about peelers are be the target what's that do you guys know what be the target is that is that like a car meet thing you let our dude is a car well pretty much is up and I'll get it and it's a it's where a bunch of people who own really nice cars drive up there or they already live there oh I remember boys I remember how do they do something like that before RC planes have an okay yeah I'm not going to that bro I don't know but my dad might force me kind of sounds cool I'm not gonna lie I'm I'm not feeling like driving six hours I like yeah but there's some cars that I honestly don't care about and the thing is I'm not the kind of guy who likes to just look at stuff for hours so by the first hour I'm well it's not it's also like drag races I guess so but I'm pretty sure there's some rally truck there's like a rally truck up there yourself I don't know I wouldn't get bored that's my niche you know what I'm excited for this summer what we're gonna take my dirt bikes out of storage oh that's not a safe one is it an 85 cc two-stroke or what what is it I have no idea we just have to do two dirt bikes that's not I'm gonna ride I wish you know how to ride yeah all the time all the time back in Brunei so you know how clutches work is over there yeah that's awesome a lot of fun yeah oh they're so fun I miss my dirt bike I think I got really bored of bike stuff after like when do we stop driving messes like that okay but though did you never have you ever even been on a dirt bike it is the most freeing thing I've ever it's the most you're just free you are just ripping it through the sand through the dude you just a ripping the earth up and you're just you just you just have power I don't even know it's just it's such a freeing feeling next time I go out riding I'll take you with me I'm good if I get really bored of this oh yeah it's really bored even though it's such an adrenaline rush like cars I don't cars I understand them I enjoy driving cars and stuff but like motorbikes dirt bikes Vespas I don't know like the adrenaline I've gotten from that is just kind of drained out of me it's like I can't create it like you know until you're behind on a Kawasaki 1000 h2 are going 300 kilometers to do the highways of Iceland I'm good I've been I've been on dirt bikes before it's it was fun you know it was a lot of fun at the time but I just I don't know it's oh that's on my but I had fun oh my god that those look insanely fun this is park near the sand in Brunei yeah and what they do like okay they would let me I was maybe 14 time they would let me maybe ride the ATVs and dirt bikes but they never let me ride the dune buggy so me my dad would do yeah we would take out one of the dune buggies and cuz like it's a gigantic course so like after five minutes driving they can't see you so we drive up five minutes my dad would hop out I go into the driving seat we just drive around you've done stuff bro yeah you know what I want to do on donuts in a golf cart golf carts are fun golf cart yeah I don't care what anybody do it you can't even do a go I will golf is gravel but like I mean I want to I want to soup up a golf cart you know what's just not fun go-karting go-karting I've gone go-karting once and I got really bored I've gone a little multiple times it's awesome we know I'm thinking about their cars I've actually never gone go-karting go-kart record awesome but go-karting seems really really funny bumper car stopping fun when you're like 11 I lost are really big and you can just smash into people it's really fun that was funny yeah but after like a couple hits and it's like this is getting oh yeah of course yeah I feel like the first time you do it after like a while yeah I get I get I don't know I've been gone bumper cars since I was like yeah probably about 11 years old and that was also the first time and I was already like yeah this is what I need a good theme park like a good amusement park well we have one it's really cool which where oh you mean the one next to the zoo that is the best theme park in the country as the ship okay the ship is fun and I was the dropper droppers was although I've been on that it's like I don't even like the droppers but that one didn't do it actually you know what's the best the best place to go in Kepler week you know a mannequin man in good luck I think our note you know I'm gonna go there's a Leosa not which is the mannequin not in Kepler week yeah and they have like a fair and stuff and did those rides are insane yeah but those are actually crazy gotta watch out there's a lot of kids I mean just a lot of kids or age there so there's all types of just it's so much commotion but you got to pick the right day yeah that's the thing because I think it's three days yeah it's about three days yeah most most the time the middle day is where you'll see the most like hooligans well especially if there's a bunch of rappers performing yeah that's the main day yeah and these people aren't even don't most of the people who go there aren't from Kepler week so it's a bunch of just you know people are kind of stuck there until they get a ride home you know and the first and the third day are like like the most family friendly if you just want to pull up and go on the rides you'll probably see just some kids with their families and stuff yeah yeah that's probably the most family-friendly day but the second day is like the that's the party day I'd say that's where everyone's there music and the drinking and etc you know what I do not look forward to but I know my parents are gonna force me to babysit a bunch my little nephews during the summer yeah I don't mind babysitting a lot I hate babies because Malachi is amazing bro you're not oh my god if we're not playing roblox ooh we is on to something else either it's just messing with me or it's like you know we have to like I don't even know it's just too intelligent for us to comprehend yeah right we can't understand his motives all my cousins live in Africa so I'm chillin and my brother's old enough to just be by himself so I got no constraints of that brother can I join your family can you adopt me no I love my free time and I love my if you get they're gonna put you with me and then I'd lose that I'll adopt you if you get disowned by your own family that's not that that's not important I've got a base in storage if you want but it's pretty tight sure man okay does it have a little of a door uh yeah that's better than what I'm living in right now so true bro yeah she does yeah Christian doesn't have a door that's okay you know burn down my house in the government receives it to give us money wait it goes crazy yeah no yeah that I'm surprised they still haven't rolled out any time but maybe you're not eligible though no we're eligible we live in Grin-de-vick since 2005 is it everybody get it to Vick or is it just that they're getting cash or is it just like when you need a time frame like a warranty kind of thing I don't know man I yeah I don't want to be a jerk but the volcano is cool but all that stuff I got really bored of like new a lot of new stuff I'm just like yeah sorry my home being yeah it's not my house I don't care it's boring it's just a volcano not my house not my problem okay brother we can see okay but when I say that about certain conflicts I get called okay but like okay okay it's like this it's like this it's like this if you can do something do something what can I do right now give me money absolutely not Christian I need that money you are the problem you are bigger yeah okay buddy I'm not giving you money at all well unless what's your house actually gets burned down I might buy a pizza for you it did what do you mean no it hasn't yet Brian oh it's good oh my god it's really dude I saw the ball and you know I feel like I thought it's like ten houses crumbling on that head it was like four I think my house is like on the other side yeah good lucky bro dude I saw those houses and I saw in the comments it was like yo that's my house no no cuz cuz the volcano started in the northeast of Iceland of a good day right yeah my house is the last house to the West oh yeah you're just good oh yeah no just chilling I don't see I'm more to be perfectly honest I'm more concerned about my neighbor's sheep and horses on my neighbors that's definitely an issue you should deal with therapeutically but you know they're already transferred out they're already they were picked up and carried I used to get like free meat all the time for my farmer neighbors that's all nice that's all nice yeah wait oh yeah don't try and make that dirty what what you saw the gestures he was no no Christian ain't nobody's okay all right dude I don't know what that literally that was oh my god Freud would have a field day I would do who Floyd Freud Freud Sigmund Freud that do you know who Sigmund Freud is search him up Jamie can you search him up Sigmund Freud is a guitarist isn't he don't you guys take psychology no we don't know we don't I don't what I think yeah Sigmund Freud I don't look I'm sorry don't act don't probably see like a photo I know Australian neurologist dude how am I supposed to know he's on a show me what your brother it says right here Sigmund Freud was an Austrian sorry Austrian Austrian psychologist yeah I have a migraine oh my god so don't leave me alone oh yeah okay guys I'm gonna look on CNN see if there's anything important going on currently so then we have something a little talk actually how far I think that the things that I think that we should talk about it'll pop but you know but the euro euro euro euro Euro vision please it'll pop by so okay what's wrong I'm not even euro it's not even euro vision anymore there's Australian in there I mean Australians basically okay what would you consider Australia is a country is not even in Southeast Asia it's an ocean in my head I think of Australians as Europeans you don't have to group these people they are from European heritage sorry Australia is not in Europe yeah but it's not in Europe don't care um Russian strike killed it I'm trying to find something that's wrong technology using war is it ethical yeah sure of course not it's war dude I think it's better than using people most definitely but a war is war man like anything that kills somebody's yeah unethical to me hmm the thing is that actually let's you know building off that let's let's talk about something controversial I'd say what is your opinion on killing killing well self-defense is perfectly justified I think that self-defense if it's justified in regard to self-defense yes I'm saying I think it somebody breaks into your house you have no idea if they're just to rob you or to harm you you have no idea therefore any form of harm against a home invader is justified now I'm gonna throw a curveball at you okay when I meant killing I meant such as like the death penalty do you think that oh yeah that that killing bad people I can't think is that think Adolf Eichmann could have been rehabilitated no he deserves what he gets I feel that people who I mean look we can even okay I don't was that who's the architect of the Holocaust what so I don't know I didn't I'm not Adolf Eichmann he was captured in Argentina in the 70s brought to Israel they executed him Christian you have the thing where you know I mean information and I'll probably forget it after today man let's be honest and you know if you get the Holocaust okay can't be rehabilitated can we that's our that's true but can we talk about someone what do you mean that sorry you talk about a recent example all right recently local you guys know the guy who wanted a Joe Rogan podcast which one you're way too big like five so pretty much so look pretty much there's another guy who brings on rehabilitated prisoners who recently get out of prison and they come on to the podcast with him and they just talk about prison and how they've pretty much he brought on this one prisoner who was talking about how he you know he didn't do it and he was saying he was guilty and he was wrongfully prisoned as well as wait sorry I'm just trying to remember as well as it was wrongfully prisoned and yeah he was just rehabilitated rehabilitated and this was wrong this was completely wrong he had beef with this one guy in prison oh yeah this is a suitcase thing yeah he had beef with this guy in prison and when they they both got out I think maybe the guy got out before him and he got out because he found the guy and murdered him and stuffed him in a suitcase and wore I think a hat and a mustache. It was a wig he wore a blonde wig and a hat. What do people always appropriate? I don't. I don't. I don't understand how you can go on a podcast and talk about how you're rehabilitated and your life is changed and you're done with it I mean he wasn't even in jail for like a murder it was a attempted robbery or armed robbery you know it's just like you get out and you do this like there's something there's something wrong with the prison system in the United States and that's what we can get from this you know I mean or just the guy is just psychotic and you know. What crimes do you think should be like decimates? Genocide. Crimes where we're 100% sure you're just not like you're not able to be better because I mean the whole point of the word is that it is I mean if I steal a candy bar I came on the only candy bar if you have if you have multiple DUIs you are a kind of person who disregards other human lives and I I truly believe that I think I think DUIs are a lot what's the word like they're not as seen like as bad as like murder yeah they should be or like but it definitely like attempted murder thing is that DUIs there's a there's a lot there's there's a range between it you can be all right hold on CITOS death sentence or no death sentence yeah that's absolutely yeah I can have death sentence rapists death sentence or no death sentence so I think we can positively say if it's a crime where you either ruin a person's life mentally to the point they can't be a normal person ever or you take somebody else's life intentionally yeah well I always agree with the idea of a life of a life for a life yeah what was the the claim that you were like what were you saying about the DUIs I just think like the idea that like you are intoxicated and disregard for other people's lives to just get in the car yeah well knowing that you're not in the right mindset to drive is just you have to just be like kind of a person who just disregards people are you saying that yeah well I think that you get a very harsh prison sentence not sure about this what are you are you saying oh but that's what I'm saying that's what I'm saying oh okay what I said is multiple DUIs all right but the problem is because that just means you're oh yeah you're just repeatedly like disregarding the fact that you're going in the car risking yeah countless people's lives yeah yeah I agree with that but it's also a lot large range like for example the u.s. I think it's 0.8 or something like that that means that you have a beer or two like three beers you know you might not be you might have like a high tolerance but you're still you still have that I'm saying though if you okay okay here's the thing but if you're a piece yeah people make mistakes yeah so if you're just a little tipsy you get in the car one time you drive and then you're like you're getting arrested you're like actually you know that was terrible yeah but I did and you never do it again then it also kind of a context like if you're if you're a little buzzed and you take like a five-minute drive down to like a gas station I could do that that's kind of risky though five minutes it is well accident happened five minutes from your from your house it is but it is that worth a death penalty I more mean like if you just constantly you're being pulled over like like out of your mind drunk reckless driving to I don't think it's constantly as well like like they they arrest you they put you in court and you you serve a sentence you come out and you just keep doing it you could also make the argument a substance abuse problem and yeah prison is not the best answer for that well a prison and rehab the thing is that it's no one you shouldn't you should you that you can be rehabbed you can be rehabilitated yeah that do you know what the problem is the first time you are are yeah arrested they put you through our colleagues anonymous yeah that's the first thing they do yeah so if you know you have this problem yeah you keep drinking you keep getting in the car and you've given you've been given so many chances yeah and you just don't that to me that says like you just don't care about other people yeah true and and it's a really big problem but you know it's just the death penalty is is something that isn't even carried out that much oh I have I have a you know I have a question somebody sells drugs yeah they're laced like like a shit like a massive ton of scent oh yeah and they cause a bunch of you overdose they deserve the death sentence right yeah yeah usually that is unless they have undeniable proof but this is very unlikely very very unlike if they have undeniable proof that they didn't know but still it you shouldn't have you know you should still get the dad can I consider that person a serial killer that's an MO like yeah realistically don't think any drug dealer should be shot I disagree I mean and maybe not shot I mean it is illegal but like it's not like I think like if you just sell stuff illegally you're not like if you're selling heroin you're definitely hurting somebody you selling coke you're hurting somebody yeah even like LSD you can you're contributing somebody else's addictions substance abuse yeah of course but then you could argue that if you're selling guns you're attributing to someone being able to harm someone else is that yeah well there's a difference between legally selling guns to are you saying it because but that's what about legal yeah what about what about you know I think it's Portland Oregon mm-hmm ah where is it again you search up where all drugs are legal I mean in San Francisco there's an open-air drug market yeah and that's bad and that's bad that's horrible but if it's the thing that there's different context who is I'm talking about if you're lacing people and you're getting them killed go to the death sentence but if you're just selling like like like LSD yeah I don't know LSD and ecstasy you shouldn't like be shot for that but no like selling coke tell her you're right it was Oregon yeah Oregon yeah like they're like definitely like people just like that is like I'd argue that you shouldn't be killed for selling something illegally and if someone is if someone abuses that thing then you can argue about that with like for instance nicotine firearms fire a lot of illegal stuff like well when you have to make a legal for a good reason like you can hurt yourself and hurt other people but like I just don't think that you're if you're selling drugs I mean for one thing a lot of people sell drugs not just because they want to but because they have to look too bad yeah but I mean that's because you're in a position where you've never had to yeah yeah but still I I feel like oh I need money isn't a justification for selling something that ruins countless of people's lives okay but but let me put you in a situation right mostly okay you're in a single-parent household in a very rough neighborhood you're the single parent that you're you know like in custody of you is struggling you're around the age of 18 you are trying to find a job but because of your poor education because you're in a poor neighborhood and the government isn't paying for good education in your neighborhood you can't get a job you try doing you know simple jobs like dishwasher waiter and it's just not enough somebody comes to you a friend or uncle or whoever comes to you and offers you hey can you sell this stuff for me I'll give you this amount of money a month or for however much you sell and you know that if you do this you can just all the problems of that single parent home is out of the way you know you can pay for the bills you can pay for the taxes all those things like are not a problem anymore yeah because you do this because none of us have been in that situation we couldn't we couldn't say what we do there's a recent example of this too someone was brought up I think one of us so the YSL case with young thug famous rapper you got caught in a Rico case free free him though he makes really good music and I think he's not guilty but still one of his old friends was brought up in court and he asked him about it about asked him about his childhood and stuff where he had to start selling at like 12 13 but he lived in the poorest neighborhood I think in Atlanta yeah in Atlanta and grew up with five of the siblings and a single mom where the mom did not work nobody could afford food nobody could foreclose and it was only him when he turned 12 when he started selling that was supporting his own family and he had to take that role his mom wasn't working so they had to go out and do other stuff you know to get food to get clothes you know it's just exactly it's just certain situations you just put in and it's just survival in that I don't think that yeah okay all right in that case stealing I can excuse robbery I can excuse to an extent fraud I can excuse to an extent scamming I can excuse to a facility it's selling a narcotic that ruins people's lives like fraud scamming ruins people's lives too yeah but there's a difference there's not a different you won't die from being scammed well I mean you know it could know I say me scamming the thing is that scamming you don't know who you're scamming okay you could be scamming a thing okay and for example Brandon's single mom who lives in the in the projects with a single side you know what I mean she has I don't know ten thousand dollars in the bank or something whatever scam we could just take all that out that whole ten thousand that she's been saving just gone just gone and I think I'm not sure even you know if the guy and if the bank doesn't want to you know pay her back or really just you know help her recoup her losses you know then she's screwed exactly it's just the thing of like a lot of the like drugs selling drugs it's always a double-sided thing yeah because like the more often than you think it's either someone who was forced into it because they don't have money or literally just at gunpoint forced to sell drugs or like a lot of people don't want to sell drugs I mean it's a risky business yeah you make a lot of money but the chances of getting shot or killed is like so high like it's in like it's crazy like there's literally children who get like killed because they're selling drugs for the wrong people and then other people are like hey he's selling drugs for people that we don't like yeah and then they kill the kid and this is like a common occurrence so like they the thing is we're like selling drugs is that I see that as selling any other black market item if you're selling weapons I don't think you should get the death penalty if you're selling drugs I don't think you should get the death penalty the people that I think you get the death penalty are the people who abuse those items if you're taking heroin and you're killing people no no but listen what I'm saying okay I'm not saying just because you're doing heroin you should get the death penalty but if you're taking heroin and you know that when you take heroin you become a very violent person and you take people's lives we just call you mean oh yeah you get our life you know exactly exactly but that's what I'm saying is that like I don't think I don't think it's your problem I don't think you're the issue for supplying because they're gonna get it any other way let's be honest whether you're the seller or someone else is the seller they're gonna get it anyway and if every drug dealer stopped selling guess what would happen more drug dealers would come out of nowhere it's a it's a cycle people enjoy drugs and like there's nothing we can do about that so selling it I can't like because people's lives are yeah you know supported by that kind of stuff and is it right I don't know but people have to do what they have to do oh I have a fun one what about gun rights what do you think about that yeah hey ours I don't know hey our loser gun laws here nah I disagree I think we should be more lenient in the way that people should get psych evaluations before they they do that here yeah here but I'm talking about the u.s. bro the u.s. I want to get any other country work on control but that's it that's the issue if they should have more of a psych evaluation because once you give an unstable person a gun and I actually did a I did a project on this talking about the idea of like people shouldn't be able to have the power to take a life so easily because it honestly doesn't even take that much to die from a gun and being able to give someone who's very unhinged very unstable the power to just take a life on a whim it's just I think is the scariest thing yeah point though but those unhinged people they're always going to have access to guns so why not give a non unhinged people access to guns that's what I said well yeah but if you make it okay say somebody's putting you like say somebody stalking you they're sending you a picture of your house they're threatening you yeah are you do you think it's right to make somebody in that situation wait two weeks to get a gun and in those two weeks they could be attacked and harmed or do you think they should be they should have access to self-defense immediately if you call the police you can get protection the police are not going to be there 24-7 okay but listen if you call the police you can get protection if you go there and take a psych evaluation it's not going to take that long you sit in a room with a therapist and they ask you some questions and they're like yeah he's fit for a guy and then you'll go through the regular process of getting a gun it's pretty long though it's about getting a gun here no I'm talking about in the United States oh yeah I'm just saying you can go to show okay this is what you what I think they should do you take a psych evaluation which I honestly not even just in gun control I think just overall at least once a year I think everyone should take a psych evaluation to see how the doors by the government I'm not saying you should be forced I'm saying it should be an option where you know like you can get like a dental check I think it should be like that where you get this this check and then they give you a slip and then like they're like this is a slip saying that you're you're eligible for a firearm and then you go there you give them the slip you go through the regular process of getting a firearm you get a firearm and then it makes it much more difficult for those creepy people such as the stalker and all these people to get that gun because of course they'll go to a psych eval who says the stalkers gonna have a gun what if he has a knife you have a gun yes but if you but if you if you go through all these processes it's going to take around two weeks to get them okay but your your situation is so hypothetical though you're acting like you're acting like it's just too hypothetical I mean mother being the child being forced to sell drugs with hypothetical to but that's way more realistic and it happened the two weeks to happen I really just made an example that was a real example of someone is about the time taken California random I know I think okay but there's a good reason for that okay look I'm gonna be honest if you are in a situation where you need to gun immediately dude I'm sorry but you have to go through the process the process is there for a good reason you should it um I'm not even joking being able to obtain a gun in a matter of minutes is the worst idea I've heard in my life you should go through so many processes to get a gun there's literally training to use a gun so you don't end up messing up there's so many like I mean things that protocols and it's so important to have those protocols sorry if you're in a situation where you need a gun immediately but those protocols are to make sure that even if this dude attacks you yeah you're able to use that gun instead of shooting yourself or anyone else in what cases do we think shooting somebody is justified I think most of all look I mean like it's why it's self-defense yeah like if you're if you're threatened to the point where you're like I need to use my firearm then okay hypothetically right dude hypothetically right oh yeah that's how far we've gone down we're doing hypotheticals now all right have a second right you're in your house you hear the window break you can grab a gun you run out to the hallway the guy's there but he's only got his fists he tries to punch you are you allowed to shoot him should you be uh maybe shoot him in the leg yes shooting him in the leg will kill him you're gonna die no you are not you know he arteries in your leg you're not immediately dying you're gonna bleed out there's too many parts of your body that you can look you can argue if you get shot there you're dying you get it you get a pistol the amount of pistol right yeah I'm not a pistol right you get a regular nine millimeter I'm either either that hitting an artery and you bleeding out is really high all right search it up because Elsa I mean look I mean even enough I mean then you're probably gonna have to I mean the thing is that if you it's better to do that and just shoot him in the in the chest also it or shoot him in the also the reason why people are trained to shoot center mass and self-defense situations is the the higher that if you try to aim more specific the higher the chances are of you missing and you getting injured were you getting attacked so that's what yeah I know you're also just shooting I don't think another unless the guy's completely deranged and is getting shot at and still charging you I mean you know I mean if you don't like math if you see what bath salts do to people I see a lot of drugs do that yeah so I understand what you're saying but I mean we're out what it was where would you I would choose center mass that's what you're trained to do that's what they kill him yeah if somebody's attacking you okay so then what's the difference of trying to shoot him in the leg um you said wait didn't you just wait I said shoot him in the leg try and shoot cuz look you own a gun you go through training yeah okay if you own a gun I think that you should be going to gun ranges and practicing not practicing to kill but just practicing it's like done what else are you gonna use it for you're saying that a bit look okay look imagine if I pick the gun up right now I would not know how to perfectly aim and hit something that's why you're trained to shoot center mass yeah but I mean you're probably yeah you probably have a higher look you could probably die you probably have a higher percentage there is more to me of dying up here than down here yeah Chrissy you're not ending an RDB bro yeah you're letting off a shot a warning shot if you randomly okay if you randomly shoot someone's leg there's a 30% chance that you're gonna hit their RDB look even if you're driving in a car and someone runs into the road and you hit him and kill him you're still gonna go to jail yeah that's what I'm saying it's worth it it's not worth the rather is the thing he's not even armed you shoot him in the leg you try and just like you just let off a warning shot if you are saying a 60 year old woman who was extremely defenseless yeah go to the corridor and there's a guy there I shoot him you're not gonna you're not gonna defeat him in a hand-to-hand not even a gun is the most like obvious she could shoot I'm saying if me I'm not gonna try and kill me but why would I care about me but you know what the issue with someone breaking into a window is you don't know like yeah the size of the person you don't know if you're gonna win because you haven't seen them yet if you grab the gun and you come out there and you shoot them I don't think there's anything wrong with that yeah yeah to shoot to kill that's OD that's what the guns but he but he just no he did a hypothetical with the what we are shooting to kill is what the gun is for no it's not you can shoot to not do you can you don't have to shoot pulling that gun out is an intimidation tactic how many times why are you why are you go to any okay no no tell tell me right now look if I'm trying to rob you right and I have a knife I'm like I'm like hey dude what's up dude I'm gonna rob you pull out the gun I'm not gonna stab you I'm not gonna try to rob you I'm running away it's an intimidation you don't have to runs away you can't shoot them but if there if somebody's in front of you they have a knife and you pull out your gun and shoot him before they can react that's fine I guess but you're not a yellow but I mean you're still gonna get in trouble though look Chrissy the thing is that you're still gonna get in trouble let me ask you something you're not you're not gonna trouble that's why that's why cops just don't immediately I was about to say that I was about to say that's why cops don't immediately well most of the time you think I was told to pull out a gun to kill there's a difference between a cop pull it out and shoot immediately there's a difference in a cop going to arrest somebody they fight back and he's a taser there's a difference between that and being in your own home somebody breaks in and you only have a gun you have a gun you've gone through training it's not like you don't know how to not kill them don't hit them in the head like there's all these places there's a difference between an accident I mean you could probably just lie anyway so the detectives I mean if you went Chrissy really wants to be some like proactive it's like like all good all guns should be legal militant man many guns should be legal but RPG should be illegal and we should be able to shoot anybody you know it's not I'm gonna shoot you immediately here's gonna be a quick draw that goes straight to your stomach and you're gonna bleed to death okay but we don't want him arguing with a knife what do you guys keep trying to save the guy's life because okay the second look okay with that is a no let me talk because look killing a guy is not just killing a guy there's things that go on in your brain after you kill a guy well okay is not gladiator we're not in Rome like we're not we're not gladiators you can get you can get punished for even just shooting a guy Christian you're not killing someone on purpose look you're not look and you're not going to get out of it okay I'm not even if your life's threat threatened bottom line if your life's friend I think it's okay if you're if you're in the state somebody break well it depends on the state but most states somebody breaks into your house yeah shoot him you're gonna be fine if somebody comes into your house and you shot them that doesn't mean it's very oh I promise you I promise you if you go into that court and say you tried to kill them you're going to jail no but if you say I was aiming for their leg because if they couldn't run then I'd be okay and then you accidentally hit an artery that is that's not that's a difference between murder in self-defense laws they don't care if you kill them most of the time because it's self-defense yeah yes self-defense includes killing sometimes but that doesn't mean you're trying to kill them yeah no not the point of a gun the self-defense lawyer point of a gun is it no listen listen the self-defense clause is built so that if you are being attacked and you accidentally think listen to the point where I say accidentally yeah accidentally kill somebody yeah they're going they're gonna like it's so then you get protected by the fact that like oh well the person attacked him it's not your fault you had a gun and you used it well yeah no I completely hear you I mean look right now I'm joking everyone's entitled to their own yeah exactly I mean Chrissy could be Chris can be a little bit of goofball but hey we need to end the podcast you know what's so funny what it's been 40 minutes we said we were gonna cut it at 20 yeah I know it no I swear to God they're gonna kick us out yeah I swear to God if you're in like Texas somebody breaks in your house and you shoot them they don't care if they die yeah but doesn't that's right though it doesn't mean it's right we're talking about morals we're thinking about bigger things than just the law you killed the yeah dude good good yo I want more people like you killed yeah have you guys seen a clip of that no there isn't like Florida or something and the guy and the and there was like some press conference I'm like the lead cop was like yeah so this guy tried to break into the house and he shot him and frankly we don't see a problem with it and he said like oh yeah somebody breaks in your house just shoot him we don't care he was like I agree that's an opinion he said no no the lead cop and like an official press conference like yeah like we prefer if you shoot him at the break he said shoot not kill though yeah what do you think the shooting is for shoot him in the leg we're gonna shoot a lot Christian if I shoot in the calf are you dying no I mean the entire there's a chance of you dying but if you hit an artery but if I hit you in the back the calf muscle you're not running away but trust me you're not dying yeah the entire point of the gun is to kill the attacker our night I don't know why you want to yeah well it depends on the type of knife oh no I'm not a multi-purpose yeah guns are pretty sounds a multi-purpose to intimidation exactly that intimidation look you're trying to bait you're trying to do this whole thing not the weapon it's the person behind the weapon my friend exactly okay but look hey we need to wrap this up thank you for listening I mean you know well to convince me when you're talking about just stone-cold killing I mean if somebody attacks you without justification they forfeit their life yeah like you were bringing up other things yeah completely other things well we'll leave it I'll leave it at this we'll leave it at everyone's entitled to their own opinion and all guns should be legal I want to own an AK-47 when I grow up this should be legal well this is I want my baby to have a good boat this is the reverse this is the reverse Oreo podcast and we're done thank you thank you thank you thanks for listening