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NFC North & South Preview

NFC North & South Preview

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The RTS Podcast hosts discuss their predictions for the NFC North division in the upcoming season. They agree that the Detroit Lions will finish first with a 12-5 record due to their complete team and improvements on defense. The Minnesota Vikings are predicted to finish second with a 10-7 record, relying on the talent of running back Dalvin Cook and wide receiver Justin Jefferson. The Chicago Bears are expected to finish third with an 8-9 record, depending on the performance of rookie quarterback Justin Fields and improvements on their offensive line. The Green Bay Packers are predicted to finish last with a 6-11 record, as they have weaknesses on both their offensive and defensive lines and uncertainty surrounding quarterback Jordan Love. Welcome to the RTS Podcast, this is Ryan, I'm Trent, and I'm Sean, and we want to welcome y'all and thank you for spending your time with us as we go through the world of sports, life, music, food, dust, and whatever may occur during your listening time. Alright guys, last show was great, we broke down the AFC playoff predictions to come closer as we get to the season, and if you missed the best part of the show are top 5 chips. I mean, even if we went top 10 on that, that still would have been tough, because I think everybody's honorable mentions were good enough to be a top 5 on their own. Yeah, yeah, for sure. So, alright. There's no wrong selection there. Absolutely, I mean, how can you go wrong? I mean, although Ryan had the Miss Vicky, the dill pickle, the spicy, you gotta try that. Gotta try that. Check it out. Definitely gotta try that. I'm not a big salt and vinegar guy, but I get it. Like, I get it. Yep. So maybe Ryan will throw a bag of those in my Julio's care package. Hey, there you go. Or Walmart, if you're listening, pick it back up. Okay? I guess they got lost in the redesign. Has y'all's Walmart been updated? Yeah, they've got all fancy now. Yeah. Like, they moved every fucking thing. Like, you know? Yeah. Now it's like, I actually have to know where I'm going. Well, I mean, I can say they have not done as a Walmart most of these. Not at all. No? They don't even have that big stock. Oh, I didn't mean it's stock. Yeah, they turned into like a bougie store a little bit. They carry higher end stuff now. Interesting. Fancy. Fancy. All right, so let's just jump into it and let's get rolling. Quick story, though, about the chips. When I was in 6th grade, sat next to a kid that used to eat those salt and vinegar ones all the time. He'd blow all that breath and stuff on you. So one day he went to the restroom and we stole his bag of chips, opened them up, dumped them out, and threw a bunch of like crinkled up paper inside there and stapled it back shut. So when it came to be snack time, he went to perform himself. He didn't have any chips. That's freaking hilarious. He wasn't too thrilled, but at the same time, we were. Hey, that's a good one. That's awesome. That is awesome. Yeah, I think that's the first time I got to experience the kitchen. So yeah, it's totally worth it. Totally worth it. No, I like that too. I remember like my grandma would always have like tab soda and Cheetos puffs waiting for me every time I came. So did my Aunt Carol. It was awesome. I mean, I'm not talking like, you know, try to keep it properly portioned for a child. Like, here's a whole fucking bowl and I swear it had to be two bags. You know, like I said, I welcome the cheese disease. It's okay. Right. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, that's just the state. I mean, you can't like, like you guys said, you can't go wrong with chips no matter what. So. True. All right. Shall we get this rolling? Yes. Let's get rolling. Yep. All right. All right. We are in the NFC. So people that will figure out eventually about us, we are all NFC fans. So I fear that one of us is going to have a, I don't know how you put it, kind of season. But you'll know who that is soon. And another person here is also a rival. So, you know. True. That's like the only, that's only two days of the year that we're not friends. Yeah. All right. All right. So with that, let us get going with one of the more interesting divisions, I think, this year. Let's go with the NFC North. T, you're on the clock. And with the first pick, I select the Lions at 12 and 5. Wait, not a wide receiver? Yeah. What? Not a wide receiver? No. I'm not trying to be the Raiders. So I don't really go for the win-loss record. Awesome. Okay. All right. 12 and 5 for the Lions. Yeah, I just, I think they made some really good improvements, or I wouldn't say improvements, but maybe just additional pieces to the team they already had. Even though they lost Jamal Williams. Sorry, world. Actually, I'm not sorry at all. All right. So the Lions were sort of a roar. But, yeah, I think, did Miles Sanders go there? No, he went to Carolina. Who's the Lions running back now? David Montgomery. David Montgomery, and they dropped in Samir Gibbs. That's what it is. I'm so sorry. I was having a brain fart here. Yeah, with Gibbs being in play, I think, like, they had the same one-two combo as they did last year. Maybe one not being hand experience, but Montgomery can be the ground-and-pound kind of thing. Gibbs can do several things. Receive the ball in the backfield. So he's a hell of a weapon. Nice guy. De'Andre Swift, too. No, they traded Swift to the Eagle, I think. That's right. You're right. That's right. My mistake. Continue. Please continue. Yeah. Whatever. Please continue. Yeah. Either watch that or just go shake a tree already. All right. I've already been grounded not even seven minutes in. All right. All right. Well, next. Yeah, I think they have a complete team, and I like to coach a lot. You know, I'd be careful being around them because you might lose a leg if you're stalling on me like that. But, yeah, just stay away from the tree shrug. We're all good. You know what I mean? So not all the way there, Campbell. But next, I've got the Vikings, 11-6. I don't think losing Cook is a big deal to them because I think Matheson is just as much talent and also a beast as well. He thought maybe Dalvin could, but at the same time, I don't think they taper off there much. And that other receiver with Justin Jefferson, you've got Kal Rudolf still there. Even though Cousins does like to choke in the primetime games or the big games or whatnot, I still think they managed to squash out some wins. They actually have Hawkinson inside of the two, making it hard on them. Hawkinson, yeah. I'm sorry about that. Kal Rudolf. Yeah, my bad. I actually had Hawkinson. I had him last year on my offensive team. So, yeah. But I think Hawkinson's the only guy to replace Rudolf as well, though. I think they're not in the weapons to get it done. That record can get you out of the way, but I do think... Oh, go ahead. I'm sorry. No, I was just saying they lost Deland, but, you know, they did pretty good with helping me out here. Ryan Addison, right? From USC. Is that right? Jordan Addison? Yeah. Jordan Addison. Yeah, Jordan Addison. So, I guess... You lose the possession receiver in Deland, but gain that talent to be able to spread the field like that. I kind of like it. I kind of like it, man. Yeah. What's that? Oh, that's it. Excellent. That's it. Excellent, dude. Party time. We'll see. Next. I have the Bears at 8-9. I don't trust anything out there, but they find a way to win. They always do. I don't care if it's ugly or not or if it's a field goal competition, but they find a way to win. So, again, based on this conference, I think they do okay. And that's, again, based on the fact that if Fields throws the ball, if he's going to be running the ball, he can change this thing easily to 3-14. I just think if they're going to use him, if they're not going to protect him slash run the ball without him kind of thing, then they're in trouble, I think. So, I know they've added some pieces to help with the passing game, but, you know, hopefully he has the maturity to understand when to scramble and to, you know, get out of bounds and, you know, get a tackle on the 1 and earn your D. That's a big thing, so. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I think I was friendly and I gave the Packers a 7-11 record. I don't think Jordan Lowe is as bad as, or maybe he's not going to be as bad as people think. They just don't have a whole lot. They still have a good running core. They've got some young receivers and things like that that he will find some rhythm with, though. But, yeah, again, it's tough to see them with a winning record or anything close to it. So, yeah. Yeah. You know, we saw Aaron Rodgers last year, and so it's kind of like, is Love going to do much better? I don't necessarily think so, but, yeah. I don't, yeah. No, Green Bay actually has to face what the rest of the NFL has gone through in the last 30 years, and that's trying to find the next quarterback, you know? Yep, I agree. I agree. I think if Love could play, they would have gotten rid of Aaron Rodgers three years ago, you know? Yeah. So. For sure, for sure. Like I said, seven wins for him, and that's kind of hot, but I still like Aaron Rodgers. I still like Jordan Lowe. I have a 7. Yeah, is that right? You said 7-11. Yeah, 7-11. I said 7-11. Okay. I was going to wonder who the 11th extra guy was. Well, I kind of wanted a 3-2. There you go. That'll help, because didn't they lose like 10 in a row to end the year last year? Yeah. So, there you go. I get it. Head in with high spirits. All right. Very nice. All right, so Lions win in the division with the kneecaps intact. Yeah, I'm not taking the fate with the Lions, but again, since they don't seem, the confidence isn't that strong, but they seem like more of a complete team. I mean, they didn't lose anything really from last year. They gained some stuff back, help on defense, too. So, yeah, I mean, it's still the Lions, so it's kind of tough not to take the fate, but I think I am. I liked them last year, and I thought if they got in the playoffs, they would have won a game. So, why not? And they kept Aaron out. I agree. In his last season in Green Bay. Exactly. All right. Mr. Anderson. Yeah. Yeah. So, I also... Are you checking in, or are you late to clocking in? Yeah. Okay. Thank you for joining today's team meeting. Thank you. I'm good, I'm good, I'm good. So, I do have the Lions atop the NFC North as well, going 10th and 7th. I just, like Keith said, I feel they probably are the most complete team, but I just want to have a little bit of faith in that division a little bit more to steal a game or two here and there. So, I do still see them, like I said. Well, Scott is great. I mean, not great. He's decent. I think he's underrated. I think he's underrated. He is. But the receivers, I worry about the whole gambling thing and how long is Williams going to be out, and are they going to survive again with St. Brown, Marvin Jones, and Josh Reynolds again? We'll see. They did last year. Like we were saying, they still got Hawkinson. I mean, not Hawkinson, Brock Wright, which I think will give them something at least, like they had with Hawkinson. Yeah. You know, for the tight end position. Defense still good. They got Ole Hutchinson from Michigan, who was just a beast last year. Yeah. He was awesome. I can't imagine him doing worse than he did. He's going to keep getting better and better and become a star in the league. So, I think they definitely win. Second, I actually have the Vikings going nine and eight. I like them. I think their offense is still good. Like I said, I don't think it's going to take too much of a step back. Of course, like with Kirk Cousins, you worry about the primetime game. How many primetime games is he playing? Because if he's playing them, they're going to lose them. Yeah. And they get to adjust that schedule a little bit, too. It was 39 games, so he might get an extra one again. Yeah, I know. So, I worry about that a little bit. You never know. It could be a difference maker. I do like the addition of Addison, for sure, and the receiver core. And I do think, not assuming, like you said, he's probably as good as Alvin Cook, but he's a small step below him. And I don't see that falling off much. I worry if he gets hurt, because he's kind of injury prone, too. So, if he gets hurt, it could be pretty bleak for him. And maybe they'll be fires for Austin Eckler, possibly. I don't know. But they could be one of those teams, like we were talking about in the last show. I could see that. I think it could. No. Yeah. Yeah. No, 100%. I could definitely see that there. Yeah. Depending on how the inference. Yeah. I'm sorry. Sorry about that. No, it's fine. It's fine. Jefferson, I mean, best receiver in the NFL to me. I just – Yep. The dude just amazes me every time he's on the field. He is going to be drafted, number one, and probably 50% of fantasy drafts coming up this season. So, it's going to be so consistent. And you know what you're getting from him every time. Yeah. Just throw it in the area. I got it. Yeah. Yeah. Next, I have the Bears going 8-9. I do think they're more competitive in games. I do see. I do see them competing better. I do see Justin Fields kind of taking a step up a little bit. Possibly becoming, I think in the future, I'm going to make a strong prediction, not this year, but next year I think he'll be the best quarterback in the division going in. So, he still has his legs. He can still run. He could have a Lamar season. Go for 3,000, run for 1,000. I think that's more than doable with him. I do think it's possible. Just got to avoid taking the big hits like he did. That's the only thing. Because I know that dude takes too many hits. Adding D.J. Moore, I think, was a good move for them. Pairing with Mooney, I think they got a pretty good offense. But we'll see if Ted Claypool can come through. Not sure. I think Cole Komet takes a step forward. He's good. He's really good. He was tall last year. And one thing I will say is that the Bears added Tanyan for the Packers. Yeah, that's right. To have a little dual tight end set, run a little old school Patriots, dual tight end, who's going to catch the ball, you don't know. Why not? I mean, I think, yeah, Fields is good, man. Not the athletic, but, yeah, they got him. Weapons, keep them in the pocket a little bit, you know. Don't make the extra hits. Like you were talking about, Lamar, to get down, stay safe, you know. It's a long season. Yeah. And I like their offensive line, too. I think it's one of the better ones. And then their linebackers are pretty good on defense. But, yeah, I see the Bears taking a small step forward. Bottom, I have the Packers finishing last, 6-11. I just, man, I don't think Jordan Love is bad. I just don't know that the team is overall that great. I think they got a lot of glaring weaknesses, mainly on the offensive, defensive lines. I think that was shown last year. They really didn't fill the tight end gap. They lost to Tanyan, which I think is a blanket for Jordan Love. He needs that. Oh, yeah. So, you know, I think their defense is going to be the strength of the team. I just don't see them winning more than six games. I think Aaron Jones is one of those guys to probably get in a trade or two. I don't see him finishing with the Packers. They know Dylan's younger, less wear and tear. So they're going to trade Aaron Jones is what I believe. And stick with that young core. They have good young receivers, young quarterbacks. So, you know, they could say, hey, we've been at 6-11. Let's get ready to start next year, look at things up with our young team. Okay, so 6-11. And you're saying 6-11 look towards next year. Is that what Jordan Love? Yeah, I do. Because they didn't pick up his fifth-year option. They gave him that weird contract. Basically proved it. Yeah. He's kind of one of those guys where I think you'll see he's going to play good. Not great. He'll play good. He's going to win a couple games for them. And they'll have confidence in him to go into next year. All right. Okay. Keith, what do you think? Next year, Jordan Love starting quarterback? I don't think so. Okay. I mean, without watching him this upcoming season, it's all instinct to say. Now, I think the Packers, as much as they want to stay and build around something, they'll figure out a way to win now. And they'll bring in a veteran or somebody or something like that. And again, that's just me thinking that Love's not going to have – I mean, Love's going to have, I think, a decent season. Is there going to be someone to hit that market next year for agent-wise that might draw their attention? I do believe so, yes. Okay. All right. So, you got that as a very tight division, Ryan. One game separate. Yep. All right. So, 5-for-5, a real tree-shaker sweep. Lions. Wow. Yep, 12-5. I like the Lions. Like I said, I think golf is underrated. St. Brown is just fantastic. That kid is smooth, up-and-coming. Would look beautiful in a Giants uniform. But we'll get that later. Anyways. But we know how we worked on when we signed Detroit Lions wide receivers. So, on to the next. No, I just like them. I think, like, with the defense, Hutchinson and the kid, the other kid, Houston, that was on the other side of Aidan Russian. I think he was a fifth-round pick last year. And he was just great. They added a lot more on their defense, you know, to shore that up. I think they brought, like, Gardner Johnson in from the Eagles. So, that'll help. I think they got rid of Slay. Or not, Okuda. They got rid of Okuda. But, you know, they brought, they'll be fine. The division is down. I think that Minnesota's not going to win all those close games that they won last year. That's just the way the football gods want to work, you know. So, that'll bring me to the Vikings at 10-7. I think Cook's a good back, but he's just kind of, is he playing, is he not? Last year he played the whole season. Had a really good year. Kirk Cousins, prime time. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Thank you. That's a great, that's a great description. Yep. I like their head coach. I think he's really good. O'Donnell? McDonald? Yeah. O'Donnell. O'Donnell, yeah. O'Donnell. Yeah, there you go. He's a good coach. The Vikings' defense, though, is a work in progress, it seems. And who they have, everybody's getting a little bit older, you know. But, a down division. But, like I said, I don't think they win those close games. And, you know, Jefferson will put up his ridiculous stats. Like, I can't wait to see that contract extension. Woo. Woo. But much deserved, for sure. Get that money, for sure. All right. Then I have the Bears at nine and eight. I'm kind of with you guys, like, it all kind of depends on fields, you know. I mean, if he doesn't get killed. Yeah, and fields, kind of on the same. Make it, make a break in the season. 100%. Yeah. I think so. I probably almost like Bill better, just because I feel more confident he'll play more games. Well, he's just bigger than Bill. Yeah, he's just bigger. He's built, you know. But, yeah, he gets hit in that knee area a couple times. That's that. That's scary. That's what he's got to avoid. Yep. He needs to watch Jalen Hurst's game. Jalen Hurst changed his game last year. And he went to the nerve level. You know, if Bill can do that, then he could be there, you know, like. Yeah, I think he's got plenty of weapons. He's got plenty of weapons. So, and Chicago is always known for the defense. But, you know, the offensive line got better. First round pick was a tackle. So they're doing something. I think they were, like, top 12 or so offensive line ranking last year. Very good. Very good line. So, yeah, I think they'll be fine. And then running the ball, just, you know. Well, I think that's the first thing they do is run the ball. That's where it's kind of like, okay, well, let's make sure, like, Bill's maybe the first option for that. Yeah, RPOs. I mean, that's the way the league's going. So, like you said, with Hurst changing his game, that's RPO, RPO, RPO. Yeah. So. I do worry about Herbert and Dante Foreman in the backfield. Foreman had a good year last year. Yeah. But, I mean, those guys get hit more than anybody. So that stuff's bound to happen. And then. Go ahead. No, you go ahead. I'll say I'm just interested to see Foreman behind that line, see what he does, that's all. Yeah. I think he's got a little more, I think he's got more legs, or quicker legs, I would say, than Montgomery. So I'd be interested to see what happens. Yeah. I mean, I could easily flip them with the Vikings, if Fields plays that good, you know. Wait, did they just announce another Kirk Cousins primetime game? Yeah. Okay. All right. That's the other end of it. There you go. Literally. So then we have at the bottom of the division, the Packers. I'll tell you guys, I don't think Jordan Love's that good. Yeah. Yeah. I've got him at 4-13. Yeah? Yeah. I just don't. I mean, I'm not going to be surprised. Just don't know. The team didn't look good last year. They didn't do much improvement to it. So. Well, I mean, okay, look at the Packers' first five games at Chicago. Okay. Chicago can finally win because Aaron's not there to own them anymore. So I guess Jordan Love will be trying to lease the Chicago Bears this year. But at Chicago, at Atlanta, then they come home for their first game against the Saints. And then Detroit comes into town and then had Vegas. So. And then the bye. But I don't know. I just don't. I think. Like, how good is LeFleur? Like, the Packers got eliminated every year the same freaking way. You know? Yeah, good regular seasons and then punched in the mouth. How about Mike McCarthy for the Cowboys? We'll get to him later. Or Shadow. Oh. But, yeah, let's see how good LeFleur is without Rodgers. But, I mean, Dobbs, Watson, do you really trust? I mean, Watson had a pretty good year last year, but it was just all kind of, like, bombed. You know? So. One trick pony? I don't know. I don't know. But. Yeah. Good point. You know, it's just. I think it's just time that Green Bay is going to hit the reset button. Like, Don Makowski is back in town. You know, the magic man is back. They kind of have hit the reset button, getting rid of Rodgers, in a way. Yeah. It's part of the process. Well, I mean, they started last year with getting rid of Z'Darrius Smith, and then, you know. Yeah. Still got Jire Alexander. That dude's pretty dope. Yeah. So. And Rashawn Gary, he was having a good year until he got hurt. Yeah. Yeah. So. Yeah, so that's it. So. All right. Five for five on the divisions, guys. Wow. We really sound original. Yes. We are killing it. Yeah. All right. So. All right, Ryan. NFC West. Oh, the West. I thought you were going to let me start my division. Oh, do you want to do your year? Okay. Go for it. Do the staff. Okay. All right. That way I don't have to – I didn't write it down yet. So you can do the stuff. So disclaimer here. The New Orleans A's, okay, the Atlanta fake ones, and the Carolina kittens. So that's what I call them from here on out, just so y'all know. Okay. Anyways, this is tough for me because, you know, I have this stuff, the Bradyless Bucks, and, you know, we're moving on to Baker. Yay. And Caltrap, what options do you have? I would say Jordan Love and Harvey over anything that we have. So I know y'all are down on Jordan Love. I'd pick them over any guy we have, any quarterback on our roster right now. So. Okay. Jordan Love or Trey Lance for the Bucks. Who would you pick? Jordan Love. Jordan Love? Jordan Love. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, Jordan Love. I agree. Barely. Okay. So, all right. With the New Orleans A's, I have them go in 9-8, winning the division. This is the new NFC league division. It's horrible. What did you say, 9-8? 9-8. Mine's doing his division. You take the east. I'll do the west. Oh, okay. Okay. Cool. I've got my predictions for the other ones, too. Well, duh. Duh. I mean, let's get to this one first. Okay. 9-8. You know what? I know Derek Hart is going to be an improving quarterback for them. No doubt about it. It's just, man, division sucks. I don't know, man. I had a hard time having them win, having them beat some teams they faced. I was not really strong, but the last part of their schedule, I don't know. It's tough. Middle part, a little bit tough. But, I mean, I could see 9-8 turning into, like, 12-5 for them, honestly. It's very – I'm very torn with that, but I just don't know how much of an improvement they're going to make. So, I've still got to see it to believe it. So, 9-8, I know they have, like I said, Derek Carr. They still have a really good defense. It's probably the best in the division, honestly, top to bottom. Yeah. Quarterbacks, like I said, Carr running the ball. I think Kamara is going to come back and have a really good year. I do like that they added Jamal Williams. You know, I think they got two good running backs. They did add Eno Benjamin. Yep. I do like Olave Emery, receiver for them. Michael Thomas. Yeah. We'll see what Michael Thomas does. If he can stay on the team, who knows? Who knows? I don't know. I don't know either. Jawad Johnson was decent at tight end. He was definitely – Yeah, I like those guys. He was definitely a great red zone target. Yeah, for sure. Whatever they do with Hayson Hill, I have no idea. We'll see. I know he's there, so. Jason Zuber. Yeah. We'll have to see. I don't know. I know, right? Yeah. Jordan leads the defense, of course. You got Latimer there still. You know, just a solid all-around defense. Nine and eight. Like I said, it could all change. Second and torn. Very torn. This is a weird division to pitch. It really was. Yeah. I do have the Atlanta fake one going six and 11. The fake one. You know what? Going what? What was your record? Seven and 11? Yeah, seven and 11. Seven and 11. Six and 11. Same thing with them. I could see them turning things around and being a 10-win team. I could. They have the weapons still. I'll worry about their receiving core, but I do think Ritter takes a step forward. You know what? Their defense is very underrated, too. It's just so hard to take in this division because you think everything sucks. Who's going to show up? Well, I don't know if anyone will, to be honest with receiving. No, no one will. But I do have them finishing six and 11. Their defense still, they did have Heineken to back up Ritter. Dijon, obviously, is going to be, I think, a top three running back in the league. I think he could. Easily. You know, their running game is dangerous with him, Cordero's full there, Algiers are there. Drake London, I think, takes a step forward. They've got Cal Pitts. They're doing something right there. They've got to see if Ritter's their guy. They have to. Defensive-wise, they've got Grady Jarrett. They have some underrated guys. I definitely like AJ Terrell in cornerback. They added Jesse Bates for the Bengals in safety. That's going to help for sure. Great guy to tackle. So, we'll see. So, third, I have the Bucs, six and 11. I knew he wouldn't do it. I knew he wouldn't put them last. Oh, no, they're not going to be last. I knew he wouldn't do it. We'll see what happens with the Baker show. I mean, he has the weapons, you know. He has Godwin. He has Evans. So, we'll see. They added Chase Evans. We'll see how he does. I like him and I'm backing up Rashad White. They really believe in Rashad White, so here's a chance to step up because they're probably going to run more than they ran last year. I would guarantee that there's going to be a lot more running plays called than last year. But a lot of people don't know. I think Rashad Wright is going to get 1,000 yards this year. I do. I think he gets 1,000 yards. I definitely think Evans continues his, it'll be what, 14 or no, 11 straight seasons? Yeah, like 10 or 11, yeah. So, I worry about the finance. We'll see what these young kids do in Austin. Koki. Vita Vey is still a beast. Stopping the run on the inside. I'm real interested to see their first-round pick. Kansey, Kalijah Kansey from Pittsburgh. He's been compared to Aaron Donald, I know. We'll see. But strong comparison, tough. So, still got Shaq Barrett. Still got Devin White. Still got LeVon Davis. You know, I don't know how you can have a bad defense with those guys running your linebackers, you know. I just don't see how. And your coach is a defensive coordinator. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, I don't know how. I just worry about it. They still got Tristan Wurst and Jensen. But all their other offensive line has been disappointing. So, we'll see. I'm more or less worried about the leadership and Baker there. So, last, of course, are the kids. I have them going 6-11, too. So, really it's a toss-up. It's going to be last. And I thought I wouldn't pick anyone last. But I think it's a toss-up. Because I think the Falcons, Bucks, and Panthers all go 6-11. So, we'll see. I'm probably giving them too much credit, to be honest. I'm sure I am. So, I do like, what's his name? I'm trying to think of the quarterback. They draft it. Bryce Jones. Yeah. I do like Bryce Jones. Number one overall pick. I get it. Kids can play. I do think he's small. I worry about that. They do have Andy Dalton as their backup. So, we'll see. The Bay's water pistol. Yeah. Running back, I definitely, you know, they got Miles Sanders. They still got Trevor Hubbard. We'll see how that works out. Sanders seems to get hurt a lot. So, I don't know. I think that's going to be a splitback field for the most part. Did he not – he disappeared a lot in games last year. Yeah, he did. Because I started him a lot in fantasy last year. And it was just like, okay, they're running and they're running. But he did, like, eight carries in some games. So, I guess, you know, good for him to get a lead back. Right. Right. Okay. Their receiving game, they added Chark and Phelan. I think they'll be okay. Yeah. You know, I think they'll be decent. They have decent. They still have Labiska Chennault. Yeah. We'll see. You know, they did have Hayden Hurd for tight end. So, that should help him out. He's at least a receiving tight end. That should help. They haven't had one of those assaults in left. So, defense, still got Brian Burns. Awesome. Awesome, awesome. I think he could be defensive player of the year this year, Brian Burns, because he's pretty great. Yeah, I like him. I like him a lot. Yeah. They still got Jeremy Chin, of course. They added Von Bell, who I think could be great for them. I really think a lot of these teams have really great defenses, underrated. You know, the defenses, it's a defensive division. So, that's why I think you're going to see a lot of low scoring, 10-7, you know, 12-9 games. You know, it's unfortunate, but I think that's what a lot of them are going to be, because the offenses may sputter a little bit. So, don't worry about that. That's also the NFC South. It's a 1940s offense in the NFC South this year. Yeah, they're around the wishbone. All right. T-Dawg, you're up, NFC South. I'm surprised they got the Panthers. They got down to half them at 11-6. Okay. All right. What? Well, I just don't believe much of this division, but I think the Panthers have put together some pieces for Bryce Young. And if all stays healthy, I think they can go perform. I really do. But they got a good defensive staff. Yeah, the best offensive line last year outside of the Panthers, or outside of the Lions, I'm sorry. And, yeah, I just kind of like what we've done. And there's going to be some sleeper team out there coming through. So, that's kind of my bet there. The Falcons are next at 10-7. I think Ryan said they got a lethal run game now. They've added old B. John. I think Renner will improve. I think Kyle Pitt actually shows up this year. Again, what's his last name? Young receiver. London. Yeah, I love Drake. I think, again, he will improve. And they did make some moves on defense to kind of plug some holes. So, I think a lot of these teams kind of need to sleep on a little bit, I do think. But I think that's one of them. Saints, 9-8, 9-7. I don't really know. I think Derrick Carr has a way of showing great leadership. They do have those weapons. I like to tie it in a lot. I like to bounce back and then you get the ground pound with Williams. I do think they find a way to somehow pull off, you know, somewhere in there. I don't know, 7-9 with Scott and I. And then I got the Bucks, unfortunately, in last. I think they got all the weapons. I got an 8-9. And I got that based on the weapons they do have. Again, like you said, with Baker or Kyle, I don't know. I don't know. And I think that position of all, especially if you have a good run game going on, so to say, if you get one-sided or, you know, one level or anything like that, you know, then especially if you're not passing the ball, you're going to be in trouble. So, I just have a lot of questions there. Yeah, I don't know. I think the conference against is the strongest, I think. But, again, I just think there's all these different ways for some of these teams to win. So, I think it will fluctuate, I think. But I don't know. So, I'll have to read off those. All right. You said 8-9 on them? Yeah, I got an 8-9. Oh, okay. Well, all right. Here we go. Uh-oh. Ryan is going to owe me a steak dinner for this one. I have the box. Not winning the division. No, I like the Saints. 11-6. I think this is an NFC dark horse team that could go to the Super Bowl. You finally give Derek Carr a good defense. Finally give him a good defense. Yeah, he loses to Devontae Adams, but, you know, he only played with him for a year anyways. So, and Olave up and coming. I agree with you guys. Kamara bounces back. And the defense. The defense is always solid in New Orleans. Always underrated. Always not talked about. But look how they would just battle the Bucs when they had Brady. Like, he couldn't beat them. He couldn't beat them, home or away. I will say this. They are a different team at home than when they're on the road. Oh, for sure. If any team besides the Packers has home field, it's the Saints, you know. So. Yeah. But, no, I just think that Carr is just going to be good enough. I think the division is rebuilding. So, where did he go? Oh, okay. We lost him. I think the division is completely rebuilding, and I think it's just that the Saints got the quarterback of the future. Not necessarily the future, but for the next few years, they have the best quarterback in the division. And the best defense. Second, Panthers, eight and nine. I like the Bryce Young pick. I just hope the kid, like, gets down. Like, just don't take big hits. Throw it away. Live another down, you know. I like Frank Reich as a head coach. I think he got screwed over in Indy. I think they just had a lousy team. I mean, no quarterback. Who would win with those quarterbacks in Indy? Well, I'll tell you the Frank Reich experiment, going old, old, old, every time, didn't work out for him. So, I do understand why he had, you know, they said, hey, you try the old guy as the quarterback. Sure. You got to stop. Yeah, well. No, I agree, but I wonder, where's the playmaking? Because they did give up the best player on their offense, you know, in order to get Bryce. But I think he'll be a lot of running and short, quick passes. And I think he'll be just fine. And Burns is just fantastic on defense. Highly underrated defense. I think they're going to keep a lot of games close. I think they could be this year's Vikings win a lot of those one-score games. I don't know. It all depends on Bryce and staying healthy. Third, Falcons, 7-10. I can't wait to see what Bijon does. Easily the best player. Easily the best player in the draft. Easily. If it was like old school days, he would have been the number one pick. Yeah, like back in the days of Kajana Carter, stuff like that. Even if it is only for five years, he's still the best player. Whatever, you know. Because that's all you get a running back for now. Yeah, exactly. But, I mean, like some of the best running backs of all time only played a few years, you know. So, it's what you get out of them. But, I don't know. I think the Falcons will be a fun team. Pitts, I agree with T, I think bounce back a little bit. Lives up to that top five draft pit. But, I don't know about Ritter. I heard he's a good kid, works hard. But, most of these guys, you know. I mean, he's got Arthur Smith, Tennessee's old offense coordinator. So, you know they'll run the ball. So, in the defense, we'll see. I don't know. And then, Ryan, I'm sorry, Bucks. Ryan Jordan. Yep. Ryan Jordan. 3-14. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. I think this is one of the sellers at the trade deadline. Yeah, I don't like y'all's first four games at Miami. Home for Chicago, Philly, and New Orleans. And then your fives in week five. I mean. That's really tough. At Buffalo. Yeah. At San Francisco. Exactly. We got a host on the schedule. It's going to be bleak. But, hey, at least they brought the cream school uniforms back. So, you guys will be stunned. Yeah. I mean. I don't know, man. I think that. You guys are going to live up to those colors, too. Yeah. It's going to be. That's a sad thing. I really think it's going to be between Vegas and the Bucks and the Cardinals for the worst record in the league. Damn. Yeah. I think it's the tank for Caleb sweepstakes with those three. But who knows? I don't know. I don't know. So, I know y'all were high on the Panthers, right? Uh-huh. Aren't y'all pretty high on them? I know T. Yeah. Yeah, I'm winning. So, in that division, who's the best quarterback in the NFC South? Oh, Derek Carr. He's got a great court. Who's the best running back? Dijon Robinson. Not Camara? No. No. Who's the best receiver? Mike Evans. Drake London. Mike Evans. I would say Alave. Alave. Okay. I'd say Evans over Alave, but Alave's on the run. Who's the best tight end? Pitt? No. I'd like to say that. I'd go Johnson. Yes, that's us. I'd say Johnson. DeJuan Johnson. I'd say DeJuan for the Saints. Wow. So, who has the best offensive line? I don't know that. I was doing the standards based on last year's stats. Thanks. So, the Panthers have none of the top in the division for any of the offensive positions, technically. Except offensive line. It's all right. You don't need that, though. Defense. I don't know, man. Oh, no. See, I know what you're doing. You're just trying to break out and get the Bucks a couple more wins. That's all you're trying to do. That's all you're trying to do. Next topic. I have the Panthers going 0-6. 0-6 offensive season, further by. They're going to lose every one of those games. They're going to go 0-6. Wow. Okay. I mean, those are tough games. I don't see them beating the Falcons. I don't see them beating the Saints. I don't see them going to Seattle. I don't see them beating the Vikings. I don't see them beating Detroit. And I don't see them beating the Dolphins. So, I don't know. I do see them having a great second half, though. But we'll see. I don't know. It's hard, man. It's hard. I know it is. It's a tough division to predict. Maybe the toughest. Yeah, it is. It's a winner for it. It's a weird. If you notice, that was the first division we had. We all had different division winners. Or me and you had the same. Yeah. Yeah. I'm a little higher on the Saints. Um. Or the. I'm sorry. The Aints. That's how I wrote it. The Aints over the fake ones. The Bucks and the Qs. Okay. Yeah. Homer. Homer.

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