Toms Audio 8-22-23

The speaker discusses various topics related to basketball, including the potential success of the Dallas Mavericks with Luka Doncic and Kristaps Porzingis, the doubts about the abilities of Derek Lively, the role of Jaden Hardy in the team, the talent and potential of the Houston Rockets, and the promising abilities of John Landale. Alright, I'm on. I'm recording. Yeah. Just stuff. This episode is about stuff. No, same. I'm speaking from the heart. Yep. Yeah, I mean. As long as you have Luka Doncic, you're always going to be in position for the playoffs, and to go even farther than that. I think Adenkari Irving was a great move. I think they showed they can play together pretty well. I think that this will be very telling for the future of that duo, how this season goes. But I expect a lot of success from them. They went 38-44 this past year, but I think they'll be above 500 this coming year. As long as they got people around Luka who can knock down shots and whatnot, I think they'll be just fine. I think, to answer your question back, well, your comment there about them not making the playoffs, I think they had a little incentive to make the playoffs in 2006. That was kind of like, yeah, I think at the end of the season, they could have made the playoffs, I'm not sure why that's the end of the season. I think they could have made the playoffs, but I don't know if it's a vote for a higher position. But, you know, I completely agree with what Tom's analysis is right there. You know, we haven't seen much of a high position. We haven't seen much of a high position in the past year. We, on a per game basis, have won a bunch of matches against players. And, you know, I think Tom's analysis is here, and I don't know if he's recording. I don't know if he's answering. But, you know, when he played with Kyrie in the middle of the season last year, I really wish that he died, because I was a little scared, because he was one of the higher-difficulty players in the league. And Kyrie being a high, ball-jumping player, I was like, is he going to use a lot of his guys? Derek White's team, especially his team, were around 2,900. This span, I think, will be great on balance. Well, that is, he gets the goal set, he gets the ball balanced, and I think Alex is going to be in trouble, because that's the sort of thing where he and Kyrie can turn the tables. So, that would be a great environment for Derek White to try to keep learning, not to be a very good player. I think if you guys can parlay correctly, it's how you run the court. All right? You get the ball, and then you give it back to Kyrie. If you guys don't matter, you've got to have a ball-to-basket, and when you do that, you've got to be on the back of the court. But it's going to be either Dwight Powell or Tom Hanks. It's going to be a point where either way, it's going to be too much for either one of those guys. There's not a whole bunch of reasons. I'm just not going to know who was. I was surprised when it looked like it. Yeah, as far as the center position, I'm not super sold on Derek Lively like you guys might be. I think his usage in college was alarmingly low. It's not just like, oh, this is nice, we don't have to give him the ball. It's like, I don't know if he can have the ball in his So that's a little concerning, especially for fantasy. He does get a lot of blocks and has good rim protection and rebounds, and he got a lot of Walker-Kessler comparisons coming out of college, but Walker-Kessler's block rate was on another level, and he obviously showed he could do it immediately at the next level his rookie year, and now he's playing on the All-NBA team. Not All-NBA team, Team USA. So, yeah. I don't know. I just don't really see it with Derek Lively. Sure, he can grow and he can develop some things and become a much better player, but that's a lot of banking on potential and what he could be, and I just don't really think he showed any glimpses of that in college. Mm-hmm. Yeah, so last year, I definitely thought that, and I thought Jaden Hardy had a great path to being the number three guard, and he came in actually at times and scored at a high level and showed he could get to the basket, but this offseason, I think them bringing in Seth Curry and Dante Exum was a little alarming because it showed that they weren't really satisfied with having Jaden Hardy as the number three guard. So, I think organizations will kind of tell you how they feel about certain players and certain positions based on moves they made, and I don't think they're sold on Jaden Hardy. Not to say he can't grow and develop a little more, and maybe that's what they're banking on, allowing him to play so much in the summer league, but I think he's a little undersized, has a tough time defending, and so he'd be a great option to come in and score a little bit, but as far as the number three guard and running the second unit, I think their offseason moves kind of showed that they're not super sold on Jaden Hardy, so I'm not either. a lot of opportunities, a lot of chances. Anyway, he did not produce the way that I think he would be from a defensive perspective, with a backup guard, or actually taking over and dictating backwards. So, in this case, I find Jaden Hardy to have a little bit more flexibility, at least, you know, instead of being thinking on paper here. It might be that that's very tough to execute. So, in here, I think that Jaden Hardy, those would all be possible, you know, if he develops it, and that's what we're looking for at the end. Yeah, well, to say in a way that Jaden Hardy hasn't, I mean, he's a tough guy to deal with, like I said, he had a lot to talk about here. I mean, he's got a reasonable base here, so I think he's got a good amount of experience out there, but it's a long way down. And I think he's a tough guy to deal with, but he's got a lot of experience in the game. I think he's got a lot of experience in the game. And I think he's got a lot of experience in the game. And I think he's got a lot of experience in the game. And I think he's got a lot of experience in the game. And I think he's got a lot of experience in the game. And I think he's got a lot of experience in the game. And I think he's got a lot of experience in the game. And I think he's got a lot of experience in the game. And I think he's got a lot of experience in the game. And I think he's got a lot of experience in the game. Yeah, I mean, this team's loaded with talent, just going from top to bottom. Fred's a great player. I think they signed him to a two-year deal with an option after one year, if I remember correctly. Or was it two years with a third-year team option? Okay. Okay, three-year deal with the third year being a team option. So I think he'll have a great opportunity to mentor Amin Thompson. And Amin showed in the little summer league that he played, he's capable of handling NBA tempo. Obviously, he's a great athlete. I think Jalen Green is going to be a good player. I don't know if he'll get as much usage as he has in the past, especially with the amount of talent that's up and coming on this team. So I don't know if I see the second level that people think he's going to go to this year. And I think the Dylan Brooks signing was pretty poor, but I don't think the Rockets were thinking that they could land Cam Whitmore at pick 20, nor was anybody else in the world. So that signing looks a lot worse now that you can get Cam Whitmore at pick 20. And Cam Whitmore is someone who won summer league MVP. I mean, he can make a push for minutes right off the bat this year. But this is a very crowded roster. So before I get into any of the rest of it, Frank, what are some of your thoughts on the Rockets? Yeah, I mean, most of the talent I would say relatively younger students will be able to tackle the new veterans here. I agree with you, Dylan Brooks is going to make that big. He could be a mentor, but even then you question why Dylan Brooks would be the right mentor for so much of the squad and guys here. So that's always interesting to think about, but I think there'll be intangibles that could be held out. Frankly, I think to just quickly cap this again, I really find him to be one of the most underrated players in the NBA, physically underrated. My experience with him is that he's consistently one of the better, consistent, outplayed players in the NBA these past few years. And I find him to be a fascinating athlete. Dylan Green is a more potential kind of sucker. I have a feeling that unless he develops more skills, which he knows he could, you know, that's just what it is. I don't see him as one of the people that would like to break through that problem. And then, I'll be honest, I'll agree with you. I think his potential that he has and his potential that he demonstrates is much, much better than him. I think it's something that could be special content, type of content, to, I guess, pretty clear pathways for him to get more into this kind of stuff. Because John Landale isn't anyone he wants to get rid of. He basically spent all offseason researching this guy into why he would be a good or bad NBA player. And the more research I did on him, the more I just absolutely fell in love with him as a player. He's, well, no, actually, I mean, I would tell you if I thought he was bad. I think that he is absolutely a workaholic. He's almost seven feet tall and can play some center. I think Udoka has plans to play Jabari Smith at the five a lot, which is the only thing I would say to Frank's position on Shangoon playing a lot of five and Landale not eating into that. I think it's Jabari Smith Jr. who's going to eat into that. And they'll be able to get Tari Eason on the floor. So Jabari's someone that shows he can hit down shots. His whole second half of the rookie year was great. I mean, he was defending Giannis on the Kumpo and he's been going to a lot of these summer runs where a bunch of pros get together and stuff. And I saw he called out Kevin Durant and guarded Kevin Durant for, you know, a whole day of scrimmaging and stuff because he wanted that challenge. And of course, Kevin Durant got some buckets on him, but I love seeing that in a player and a young player that wants to get better and grow his defense. And I think Jabari Smith Jr. has every single tool to become a dominant player in the NBA. And so I, while I'm not sipping the Kool-Aid on, on some of these other players, I really think Jabari is someone that can take this second step. And we saw in the summer league, he played against, you know, backup and subpar players and rookies, and he showed he did not belong there. He showed he was much better than them out there. So once he gets some confidence going after, after this, you know, upcoming month of basketball, I, if his confidence is through the roof, there's nothing that this player can't do. So I'm really excited to watch more of them. No, that, I don't know if what, I didn't mean to say that it would cause Shang-Goon to get less minutes, but I think from what Udoka has said in his interviews this off season, because believe me, I've listened to every one of them, is that he plans on playing Jabari Smith at the five a decent amount. So maybe that, that means backup minutes for when Shang-Goon comes out, but it'll be Jabari playing the five and not Jaclyn Dale getting those minutes. Okay. Yeah, baby. Yeah, I agree with a lot of that. I think Tari is a really good player and he was another, another one of those guys that showed he could play in the summer league and got pulled immediately. Cause he just looked like he was on a different plane than everybody else out there. So I think it's going to take Tari some time to get on the floor, but good players always find minutes. Coaches find ways to get players those minutes. And so I think it'll be a matter of time. Dylan Brooks, you know, a year down the road could be a great trade candidate, maybe cut candidate depending on how he fits within the locker room and the, and the culture. So Tari Eason will end up getting his minutes. It just might take another year or so. But I think looking back, Steven Silas probably made the right call, letting Jabari play and grow at the four and not playing Tari Eason over him. Excuse me. In hindsight now, looking back on that, like you want the number three overall pick in the draft to get every sort of touch he can. So I do think he should have played Tari more at the three, but yeah, I can understand why Tari didn't play over Jabari. It just kind of was tough circumstances for him last year. Okay. Okay. Yeah, I think, uh, Thompson will end up getting some minutes. I could see him getting anywhere from, you know, 15 to 20 minutes as the backup point guard. So Fred's good. Fred will play, but I think Fred's battled a lot of injuries in his career if I remember correctly, or at least last year. So, um, the good players always get minutes. Uh, I'm not too worried about it, but a man definitely has the athleticism, uh, and the willpower and, and drive to become a great player, which I love. These guys, both the twins are basketball junkies. They love basketball. They grew up watching basketball, wanted to be great NBA players. And that's been their dream since day one. So I have no, no question that they're going to work at it until they become the best. Yeah. I'm actually not so sure about that. I think a lot of them just like basketball because they're good at basketball. But I think the Thompson brothers actually like love basketball. If that makes sense, you know, like you, you can enjoy a career because you're good at it and you can also love a career. That's fair. Yeah. I mean, this off season, uh, when I had the number three pick and was decided between a man Thompson and Brandon Miller, uh, just doing research between the two, it was a no brainer. It wasn't even a question after about a month of research, you know, who was the right pick. And you see that with other analysts too. I don't think you'll find a single fantasy analyst on the planet with Brandon Miller over men Thompson. Um, and that's for good reason. So, uh, I think I'm in Thompson's going to be just fine. It's going to take him some time to get on the floor, but when he does get on it, he'll make some highlight plays. Mm. Yeah. As far as, uh, team wins and losses here. Where do you think this team finishes? Hmm. It's probably about 40 wins to get to the plan. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 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