Ep 51 Bonnie & Clyde

Hi, I'm Jess. And I'm Tiff. And we're your Curious Cousins. Where we talk about everything kooky and spooky in the state of Oklahoma. Welcome to episode 51. Welcome. How are you? I'm great. How are you? I am good. Nice. I got to get a mani-pedi today. Oh, fun. I'm feeling fancy. Oh. Nice. I went to church, that was it. I did go there, too, as well. But then I met my friend, Gwen, for lunch. Actually, I have family pictures scheduled for this coming weekend. Actually, on... You have a busy weekend. I know. One of our favorite cousins' birthdays is coming up in exactly one week. I don't know whose. It's Jess. Anywho, I have family pictures scheduled for that day, so I had to pick up some clothes for my children to wear. I don't know whose. It's Jess. Anywho, I have family pictures scheduled for that day, so I had to pick up some clothes for my children to wear. I don't know whose. It's Jess. 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I mean, when you think about famous couples, like out, infamous couples, Bonnie and Clyde are probably one of the top of the list, right? Well, I don't, honestly, I don't really think there are too many if you think about it, but I mean, I think they're the most romanticized. Absolutely. A hundred percent. A hundred percent. I agree with that. I would definitely rank them up there with the British, the Moores Murders from Great Britain. That was a couple. Oh, okay. They ended up being serial killers. I don't really know. Like, Bonnie and Clyde weren't serial killers. They were. No, they were just. I think they're considered gangsters because they're out of that era, but they weren't associated with the mob. They weren't mobsters. I think they were more gangsters. They weren't mobsters. Through this, I learned there was a difference between the two. I mean, I think really, they were outlaws. Yes, absolutely. They weren't Old West outlaws, but they were just outlaws because they weren't really with any kind of gang. They didn't call themselves a gang. Oh, they did. They did. They were the Bloody Baron Gang. Oh, they did call themselves a gang. Yeah, the Bloody Barrow Gang. Well, I mean, so it's just like. Maybe they didn't call themselves that. Well, I guess what I mean to say is they weren't. They don't really fit the gangster type. No, no. Because it wasn't like they were with a big group of people. Right, right. There were some others with them. Yes, yes. So, there's a famous quote describing this one of the, I mean, this has got to be one of the most famous crime couples in the world, and it's by none other than Charles Arthur Pretty Boy Floyd himself. This is how he described Bonnie and Clyde. These two give us all a bad name. They were nicknamed the Bloody Barrow Gang, and like I was saying, we're talking about Bonnie and Clyde. And I remember the first time I had really ever heard about them, I had, I think my parents were watching the very famous Hollywood movie, and I was just fascinated with this thought of these two people, this couple, and they were just, they were a bad guy and a bad girl, and it was just fascinating. And then I swear to you, I see that movie, and we went to visit the State Fair of Oklahoma, and I don't remember how old I was, but it claimed to have the Bonnie and Clyde car there. And for $1, you could go and look at it, and my dad wouldn't give me $1, let me go look at it, so. Aw, shucks. You know. So, this couple did become famous about 40 years after Flora Quick and Ernest Lewis's love affair with each other in crime. So, now, like I said before, neither are Oklahomans, however, they did spend a significant amount of time during their criminal careers here in Oklahoma, and they often loved traveling along Highway 69 between Texas and Missouri, and what's between Texas and Missouri? Oklahoma. So, let's start with Clyde Chestnut Champion Barrow. He gave himself the middle name. He gave himself the middle name, Champion. Oh, probably because he didn't like chestnut. Chestnut is interesting, though. He was born March 24th, 1909, in Talico, Texas, or Talico, Texas. He was the third of eight children, although some sources did say he was the fifth of seven, so I don't know if a sibling, I'm assuming a sibling that had passed away at some point. His father's name was Henry, and his mother's name was Kumi. His father was a sharecropper. By age 12, the family moved to West Dallas, and Henry opened a filling station. Clyde really struggled staying in school, since his family was always having to move around to follow the crops, so by fifth grade, he dropped out. Well, how old was he when his dad started running a filling station? Twelve. Okay. So, it was actually reported that even when Clyde was in school, he actually spent more time with the police than he did in the classroom. Other sources I did find say that Clyde officially quit school at the age of 16, so he could work full-time. So, I don't know if he dropped out, and then came back, and dropped, and just wasn't consistent. Well, I mean, he could have been helping his dad with the sharecropping, because, I mean, I know, like, Pretty Boy Floyd, that was his issue, too, his dad was a sharecropper, and he didn't want any part of that life. Yes, and that's going to be a theme here, that, between both of these. They both come from generational poverty, and they both are struggling with that aspect of their life. So, at age 17, Clyde was caught with his brother, and future gang member, Marvin Ivan Barrow, aka Buck, or sometimes called Ivy, and they were selling turkeys. Buck does claim that, at the time, Clyde didn't know that the turkeys were stolen. What did he, what, do you think they were wild? I'm not, I'm not, it doesn't say, Buck just said that he didn't, that his little brother did not believe, did not know that the turkeys were stolen, but apparently they weren't. Okay. So, Clyde, after this, he quickly turns to auto theft and safe cracking, so this is a big acceleration from stealing turkeys to stealing cars. During his youth, he was arrested eight times, and he was released each time. Now, if you haven't figured out by now, Clyde, he came from an extremely poor family. They often had trouble making ends meet, hence the life of crime. Many times, the children of his family had to be divided up and passed around to different relatives, and as the siblings got older, Clyde would find himself staying with his older sisters or brothers and their spouses. One account said that the family had to resort to living under their wagon when they first arrived in West Texas, in West Texas, West Dallas, until they could afford to purchase a tent. Clyde's first official arrest happened in late 1926 when he was 17, so I don't think the turkey robbing was really on his, or any of his small time thieveries when he was younger was on his record, but at 17, he ran from police because he failed to return a rental car on time, and here's a quote from his sister. One night, very late, Frank Hardy and Clyde came by the house and got me out of bed. They had four bricks of ice cream, a handful of pocket knives, some hot water bottles, and a lot of other stuff, which they spread out on the kitchen table. When I demanded to know where they had found all this junk, Clyde told me the most marvelous lie I had ever listened to. He said there had been a drug store fire in Oak Cliff, and he and Frank just happened to be driving past, and had seen people throwing all sorts of things out in the street, and as everybody else was doing the same thing, they had stopped and helped themselves. Naturally, I didn't believe a word of it, and I said so. Again, we had a big row, and Clyde left in a huff. I was worried to death about him by now. I had found out he had quit his job since going to live with Frank, and something warned me that things weren't going right, and that quote is from the book Fugitives, and it's a direct quote by Nell Barrow herself. A lot of quotes that I'm going to be using today are actually from family members, which is kind of interesting, because they both had large, very large families that outlived them both. Right. Now, let's talk about Bonnie Elizabeth Parker, born October 1st, 1910, in Rowena, Texas, to J.T. and Emma Parker. Her father was a bricklayer, and Bonnie was the second of three children. In 1914, J.T. passes away, so Emma decides to move the family back to Seamint City, a suburb of West Dallas. They would live with Emma's parents. Bonnie was a good student at Seamint School, and she was a prolific writer. She was a wonderful writer. In fact, one of her journals still survives. Some of her poetry still survives, and I think, honestly, if she would have just used that for good, she probably would have been very successful in whatever else she chose to do. Her sophomore year of high school, she met Roy Thornton. The couple dropped out of school and married on September 25th of 1926, six days before Bonnie turned 16. Wow. So, here again, they were not very well-off people. She drops out of school. Even though she was a good student, she still drops out, and I just, you know, stay in school, friends. Stay in school. Thornton was often absent, committing crimes, so she had a thing for the bad boy. By January of 1927, Thornton was again arrested and sentenced to 99 years for being a habitual criminal. Oh. There was never any divorce between the two, yet I don't think there was any love between the two of them either. I mean, they hadn't even been married six months by the time he was put in prison. Once Roy was sentenced, Bonnie never saw him again. She never went to go visit him, and when we get to her and Clyde's relationship, that's not something she sticks to. She habitually goes and visits Clyde, so I just don't think that they're, I think maybe they had like a whirlwind romance, but then it wasn't what she thought it was going to be. Right. It didn't turn out the way she thought. However, this is pretty kooky. the day she died. When she was found dead, it was on her finger. I mean, it could have been one of those things where she wanted to make it seem like maybe there was more to her and Clyde than ... Oh, and I think there probably would have been if they wouldn't have been outlaws, because nobody was going to marry them. They couldn't register because they'd get arrested. When Thornton was in prison, Bonnie moved back in with her mother and started working as a waitress. Now, this is a kooky, creepy fact. It gave me chills kind of when I read it. Bonnie met and often waited on Todd Hinton, and if you are very knowledgeable, a big person into Bonnie and Clyde, that name will sound extremely familiar because it is. At the time when Bonnie was waitressing and she knew Ted, he was a post office worker. Later, he joined the Dallas County Sheriff's Department and eventually served as one of the posse members in the ambush that killed Bonnie and Clyde. Oh, interesting. Yeah, they knew each other. He knew them. He knew her, at least. Like I said before, Bonnie had been a good student, so among many of her effects that had been left over after she had passed away. They found a diary from 1929, and she wrote poetry, and some of it was even published posthumously. Oh. So, as you said, they're not really gangsters, but I don't know that they called themselves the gang, more as probably the media dubbed them the Bloody Barrow Gang. Yeah, I was about to say, I thought that was more the media. So, this gang forms, essentially, and Clyde is often in and out of jail. He's either being released or he breaks himself out. You're going to find that this is a theme. Clyde teams up with Oklahoman Raymond Hamilton for a time. He was a notorious criminal as well. Together, they escalated their crimes from theft to murder. I don't know that necessarily murder was intentional, but when you're doing crimes of this sort, I think it just naturally happens. April of 1932, John Boucher was murdered. However, it appears Clyde was simply the getaway driver, not the shooter, and Hamilton was actually the only one ID'd, but he actually wasn't even there when it happened. You'll find out Clyde was very forthcoming to his relatives and his family about the crimes he committed, and this is one of them that he adamantly said that he did not. That reminds me of, I think it was Pretty Boy Floyd. Yes. They thought he was at the Kansas City massacre, and he wasn't. Let's talk about a meet-cute. January 5, 1930, the couple would meet at their mutual friend Clarence Clay's home. Clyde was 20. Bonnie was 19. Bonnie was out of work and helping a friend with her broken arm. It was love at first sight. Clyde stopped by, and Bonnie was making hot chocolates. One month later, Clyde was arrested at Bonnie's mom's house for burglary. He wasn't burglarizing the Parker home, but he was arrested. They knew he was there, and they were arresting him. Clyde was sentenced to two years of jail time. However, he escaped when Bonnie smuggled a weapon in for him. It's like the typical cliché. This had to be the start of it. This had to be the start of those clichés. Clyde was quickly recaptured and forced to serve his maximum sentence of 14 years. He was also moved to a harsher prison, Eastham Prison Farm. What gets me, though, about all of this is it's like, you know, if these people that do this kind of stuff, if they had just served out that first sentence, absolutely, I mean, they would have been done and out. You will see this happens numerous times to these two. So listen to this. Listen to this. Clyde meets Ralph Foltz here, and Ralph is another very infamous outlaw during this time period. And very newly, with Clyde arriving here at this prison farm, he witnesses Ralph get beat almost to death by the actual prison guards in order to teach him a lesson from trying to escape from the farm, and Clyde witnessed this whole thing. They were trying to teach. They were trying to teach Ralph Foltz. Okay. So Clyde was very upset by this, yet he was also often seen sporting wounds. This quote from his sister, Nell. Once I visited him and found him with both eyes blackened, I learned that Clyde had received a beating because he had complained that the paste set for chopping cotton was too fast for him. He also told us that often the guards would ride them down if they lagged behind. Once, after I had been with him, he said the guards accused him of having passed a note to me. Although Clyde denied it, the guard beat him severely for it. When the long days were finished, the convents were returned to the farms and were forced to run all the way back about two miles. The guards behind them were on horseback, and if they failed to keep pace, they were slated for punishment. I mean, I know all of us have probably heard horror stories from prison farms and how they treated the prisoners, and knowing that that's what Clyde Barrow went through, I think he started to become hardened. Well, I mean, you could very much so see why he would be resentful of any kind of authority like that, of law enforcement, because, you know, you're already there doing a crime, and then you're working as well on top of that, which, I mean, whatever. But, like, to be beaten for unfounded reasons, like... Yeah, exactly. I mean, I get that's how it was, but... I know. We get to look at it through the lens of 2023. You can see and understand why he had that resentment, and probably why he went on the path that he did. Absolutely. It was also reported that Clyde was repeatedly sexually assaulted. Oh. He would retaliate by beating and killing his tormentor by bashing his skull in with a pipe. Oh. However, when he did this, he had befriended this lifer, Aubrey Skelly, who decided he was going to take the fall for the murder since he was already in there for life. So Clyde didn't take the fall for it. Interesting. So here's another kooky fact. In an attempt to get moved from the prison farm to the same unit his brother Buck was located at, Clyde cut off two of his toes with an ax because he was like, oh, well, then I can't work on the prison farm if I'm missing two toes. If that wasn't enough, if he would have just waited, his mother had already petitioned for his release. And six days after chopping his toes off, he was actually released. His mother's request was granted. So for the remainder of his life, Clyde walked with a limp for no reason, except for he was trying to get out, and if he would have just waited, he would have gone out. Well, I mean, I don't even have any words. You don't. You don't. You don't. So February 2nd, 1932. Clyde is paroled, but like we said before, he is now very hardened. Friends and family all saw serious changes in his personality when he emerged from the prison farm, that he was just a completely different man. He probably also had some PTSD, I imagine. Oh, yeah. So this is a quote from his brother Buddy. My grandmother said when he came out of prison he was a changed human being. He told her, there will never be another human being put their hands on me like that again, and he hated some person who had authority and rubbed his nose in it. He hated that, and it was all because of what this 19-year-old boy witnessed in prison. He was traumatized after that. That was actually a video interview that Buddy gave later in life. Clyde tried to be a law-abiding citizen, but he was just constantly harassed with people. He was constantly harassed by the police simply because of his reputation. So it was hard, it was impossible for him to keep a job because the police would just show up at his work and take him downtown if anything ever went wrong, and so then he'd get fired. Yeah. So right after this prison release, Bonnie and Clyde do rekindle their relationship, and Ralph Foltz ends up getting out of prison as well. So the two of them meet back up, Clyde and Ralph, and they start robbing again. They plan to raid the prison farm. Thus, they started stealing lots of money and lots of different firepower. An Oklahoman, Raymond Hamilton, he joined in, and they created this Lake Dallas gang. Our aunt lives in Lake Dallas. The first thing I thought of, I was like, oh, our aunt lives there. Bonnie and Ralph actually were arrested April 19, 1932, after a failed robbery of a hardware store. Bonnie ended up never being indicted. However, Ralph was sentenced to time back at the East End prison. So this is a quote that I found from Wikipedia. Having lost all their money and guns in a police raid of their hideout and still intent on freeing Foltz before he could be tried and sentenced, Clyde and the remaining Lake Dallas gang decided to pull some more robberies for quick cash. On April 30, Barrow was the getaway driver in a robbery in Hillsboro, during which store owner N.J. Boucher was shot and killed. Boucher's wife identified Barrow from police photographs as one of the shooters, although he had stayed inside the car. Raymond Hamilton was also identified, although he took no part in this particular crime. So things are hot in Oklahoma. No, I erased that. So things are hot in Texas. So let's go to Oklahoma. August 5, 1932. The deadly duo commit their first crime in Oklahoma, or at least one of them do. Stringtown, Oklahoma. Clyde, Raymond, and Ross Dyer, another guy they've picked up, are three well-dressed gents coming upon a county dance. So they decided to stop. It was unclear or unknown why they decided to stop. I suppose they were just looking for a good time. I mean, how can you not in a town called Stringtown? Right. Did I mention they rent a stolen car? No. Another theme of this entire story, stolen car. Well, I mean, they can't steal a turkey. Right. I don't know, even though this is kind of tongue-in-cheek, I don't know if Clyde Barrow ever paid a dime for a car, ever in his lifetime. Clyde and Raymond stayed in the car drinking whiskey while Ross must have been off flirting with the town girl. Oh, man, because whiskey helps everything. And remember, this is the height of Prohibition. This is during Prohibition. This did not settle well with the sheriff or the deputy. So Sheriff C.G. Maxwell and Deputy Eugene Moore approached the car to question the men. Upon approach, probably fearing the worst and knowing they were on the run for the Boucher murder, Clyde and Raymond opened fire, killing Deputy Moore and wounding Sheriff Maxwell. He was shot six times. Oh, my gosh. The trio hightailed it out of Oklahoma and returned to Dallas. Here's a kooky fact, though. While fleeing, the trio wrecked one stolen car, then lost a wheel from the next stolen car, and still managed to evade police. Oh, man. Well, so I don't know if they just happen to be the luckiest criminals on the planet because this is, again, a theme. There's so many themes in this. They're always stealing cars. They're always able to get away. They're always released early. They're always able to escape. It's crazy. So once Clyde returns to Dallas, he picks up Bonnie, and their crime spree was on. It was on like Donkey Kong. Within two days, Clyde is wanted for murder in Oklahoma along with Raymond. So we're going to talk about the years 1932, 1933. This is really the height. Or really 1932, 1934 is really the height of their whole career as criminals. Clyde, Bonnie, and Raymond flee to New Mexico where they hide out with Bonnie's aunt. There's just too much pressure in Oklahoma and Texas, so they go to Mexico. Well, with a murder hanging over your head. Right. Officer Joe Johns notices a stolen V8 at the aunt's home in New Mexico. And while inspecting the car, Clyde and Raymond emerge guns drawn. The men took Officer Johns hostage. This is the first of many hostages taken throughout the careers. Clyde, Bonnie, and Raymond, with their hostage, return to Texas and eventually release Johns in San Antonio. Officer Johns was able to get to law enforcement who tried to set up roadblocks. However, Clyde spotted the roadblocks, turned the car around, all while shouting at the officers. Like a movie, like, ah, I think you're going to get me. I don't know. I don't know what he was shouting in there when it was recorded. Probably some choice words. Yes, I'm sure. On October 11th of 32, Clyde allegedly killed Howard Hall at his store in Sherman, Texas. This murder is another one of those murders that is highly doubted to be Clyde's. He denied this murder while admitting to all the others that he ever committed. So his family really does believe that he did not commit this one either. Well, I mean, I have to kind of agree with them on some of those things because it's like if they're so willing to admit to every other murder Right. But not to, like, one specific. I mean, yes. That's okay. Well, if they're going to have all these other murders up there, yeah, I did that. Well, it's one more murder. Right. Exactly. December 24th, W.D. Jones, age 16, joins the gang. He was a childhood friend, and together they all left for Dallas. On December 25th, W.D. and Clyde shoot and kill Doyle Johnson while trying to steal his car. In January of 1933, Raymond is now in police custody. Clyde goes to his sister and convinces her to smuggle a hacksaw in to help Raymond break out. Oh, man. Now, what Clyde didn't know was that the police were actually hiding inside of his sister's home waiting to ambush Odell Chambliss, not Clyde Barrow. Oh, no. Chambliss was actually wanted for bank robbery. And it was unclear to me, like, how they thought that Clyde's sister knew Chambliss or was housing Chambliss or where he even played into it. But they were there for Chambliss. They didn't get Chambliss. When Clyde was confronted, a shootout ensues, and he kills Deputy Malcolm Davis. Oh, man. It's like the situation just gets worse and worse. Right. It does. It just, yeah. So, by January 26th, a Missouri motorcycle officer, Thomas Purcell, believes someone is attempting to steal a car. Shocker. It was Clyde. Officer Purcell pulls over and approaches the car. Clyde steps up and throws a shotgun at the officer. Clyde is able to get a hold of Officer Purcell and take him hostage. Good night. Officer Purcell is released shortly after on some back road. The gang did steal the officer's gun, and later that same gun was used as a prop in some of the game's most infamous pictures. And we'll get to the pictures later. Interesting. Now we're on to March 22nd. We're in 1933. Buck Barrow is paroled. He and his wife, Blanche, set up a hideout with Bonnie and Clyde. Blanche is highly against this, and we'll get into Blanche here in a little bit. She really wanted Buck to live the straight and narrow now. He was out. He'd served his time. She wanted him to live a life, a good life. She didn't necessarily approve or agree with the lifestyle that Buck had previously had. She didn't necessarily know what it was when she first met him and fell in love with him, and it was one of those where I think she was so blinded by her love that she just let it go. She wasn't really enthusiastic about housing Bonnie and Clyde because she knew that they were kind of wanted in connection to something, but she went along with it, and they set up this hideout in Joplin, Missouri. The goal was thought to have Buck and Blanche were going to convince Clyde to give himself up to the law. Serve his time, then he'd get out. However, it ended up being a giant party, so loud and belligerent that neighbors called reporting the loudness and drunkenness and even hearing gunshots. In some sources, it says this is when Clyde started breaking into national armories. Others say, but this is kind of, it's confused because some other, like this one, this is like March of 1923 or March of 1933, and some of the timelines I think are a little bit confused because there's another armory in Enid that claims to be the first one that was ever broken into. But this one in Missouri is claiming that it was the first, and really they were only months apart, so they were probably maybe close together. Anyway, the armory in Joplin was robbed, and this is where Clyde was able to obtain his favorite, and I would dare say his signature weapon, the M1918 Browning Automatic Rifle, often called the BAR. In addition to the BAR, they also got an M1911 pistol, and 12 and 16-gauge shotguns. Oh, gosh. So, on April 13th, believing the gang to be bootleggers, five policemen confront them, and a gunfight happens. Not that we're surprised at this point. No. The gang got away, yet left most of their belongings behind, including Buck's three-week-old parole papers, tons of the weapons they had just stolen, all the important things, Bonnie's poems, and a camera with undeveloped film. Oh, interesting. So, being nosy, the police ran to get the film developed, and this is where the world was given the gift of all those famous pictures of the couple, goofing around with guns and cigars, posed in front of cars and with each other, those ones. At this point, Bonnie, but especially Clyde, had become public enemy number one, right after Pretty Boy. Not only in Oklahoma and Texas, but now Missouri, and really nationwide. So, this is another quote from Wikipedia that I really liked about both Bonnie and Clyde. John Dillinger had the matinee idol good looks. Pretty Boy Floyd had the best possible nickname. But the Joplin photos introduced new criminal superstars with the most titillating trademark of all, illicit sex. Clyde Barrow and Bonnie Parker were wild and young and undoubtedly slept together. Over the next three months, the gang traveled between Texas and as far north as Minnesota. They robbed two banks, one in Indiana and one in Minnesota. The gang became infamous for kidnapping people during these events. Victims were typically released far from their homes. These were kind gangsters, Jessica. Many times, the victims would be released but given money to get themselves home. That's so nice of them. In late 1933, the gang really does start to become more desperate. They really could no longer visit any hotels or restaurants because they were famous. So, they had to camp. They had to bathe in streams. They also fought constantly. Well, I'm sure it wasn't fun. There are five people crammed into one typically Ford V8 type car. Right. So, it's not like they were racing around the country in a giant SUV from today. Right. June 10, 1933, Wellington, Texas. Clyde, Bonnie, and WD are in a very serious car accident while visiting family. And you will also notice that they often go back to visit their family. And so, police are always looking at their families. While trying to escape a possible ambush when meeting the family, Clyde misjudges a turn on a bridge washout and crashes the car overturning it. Bonnie is gravely injured when either gasoline or battery acid burns her leg, resulting in third-degree burns. It was so bad that the muscle contracted and drew up. WD was later quoted as saying, she'd been burned so bad none of us thought she was going to live. The hide on her right leg was gone from her hip down to her ankle. I could see the bone at places. Oh, that does not sound pleasant. So, Clyde and Bonnie escape, and Clyde is carrying, running her away from this police ambush. And they happen upon a local farmer there. And the farmer did help the couple, like providing aid for Bonnie's leg and, quote, calling. And it's not really stated here, but one can probably, you know, put two and two together. I'm really unsure if they really called the doctor, and the doctor was suspicious knowing the wreck had happened, or if the doctor was actually the police. However, the farmer said he called, I'm using air quotes, the doctor. However, a county sheriff and a city marshal showed up at the farm instead of a doctor. Clyde and WD kidnapped both officers. Then later, while traveling north, handcuffed the two lawmen to a tree with barbed wire outside of Erick, Oklahoma. Well, that sounds painful, but on top of that, like how incompetent are these lawmen if they get kidnapped? How many of them have gotten kidnapped? I think we're up to four, right? Knowing how high the heat was in Oklahoma and Texas, the gang flees to Fort Smith, Arkansas. And remember, Bonnie is gravely injured. Right. So they staged many hold-ups and hold-ups. They staged many hold-ups and robberies simply to pay for the medical needs and bills that Bonnie has because she is going to see doctors, and I'm assuming they're just paying them under the tape. They're just paying them, not giving her real name, that kind of stuff. July 1933. The Red Crown Tourist Court in Platte City, Missouri, and this is a place where you can go visit today if you'd like. The gang rents two cabins. This definitely marks the beginning of the end for the Bloody Barrow Gang. Blanche is the least recognizable of the gang members, so she requests the two cabins for three guests. Yet right away, people notice five people coming and going from the cabins. Now, this is really funny. The neighbors notice that the car was parked in the garage between the two cabins in a suspicious, quote, suspicious-slash-gangster style. Do you want to know how gangsters park? Yeah, tell me. That means they parked backing the car in. So a quick getaway. Quick getaway, yes. And so really now look at everybody who was able to back cars in and be like, oh, you're suspicious. What are you trying to get away from? Right. Blanche was also spotted purchasing five meals during mealtime to take back to both cabins. She would buy five beers at a time, and everything she paid for was paid in coins. Buck and W.D. were seen in town purchasing atropine tablets Buck and W.D. were seen in town purchasing atropine sulfate, medication used to treat Bonnie's specific injuries. Law enforcement had been tipped off knowing that Bonnie was injured, and these were the type of medications that were needed for her. So law enforcement was able to warn communities to be on the lookout in Arkansas and Texas and Oklahoma for people buying those medications. I can't imagine the pain she was in. I can't either. Lawmen watched the house and quickly called in reinforcements from Kansas City. They came complete with an armored car and machine guns. It's about time to start fighting fire with fire, I think. Right. Once the plan for an ambush was put into place, officers decided they could not let the car get out of the garage. So the armored car was placed in front of the garage to block it in. Justice proved to be futile. The officers were no match for Buck and Clyde's firepower. Remember, they had robbed armories, military armories by this time. Right. The armored car's driver quickly backed away from the garage once he was injured from the shootout and didn't pursue the escaping car. During this siege, Bonnie and Clyde were easily able to get into the garage and their car to escape. Buck and Blanche, however, were not. So I guess there was a door from one of the cabins into the garage, but the other cabin there wasn't. They would have to go outside. So in the crossfire while trying to make it from their cabin to the garage and the getaway car, Buck is gravely wounded with a bullet. This is just going to be a trigger warning. This is pretty gory. That resulted in a large hole in his forehead. Bone and brain were exposed. Oh, my gosh. Additionally, Blanche was blinded due to the glass shards landing in her eye. In the end, Blanche would regain eyesight, but only in one eye. July 24th, the gang stops in Dexter, Iowa. Buck is in and out of consciousness. He's bleeding profusely. I don't know how he lived, but he's alive. Blanche is completely blind in one eye. Bonnie is still recovering from her leg burn. So W.D. and Clyde decided it's time to camp for the night. Things are just going bad. Oh, yeah. It's going to get from bad to worse. Oh, yeah. While out and about in the field, locals found bloody bandages and contacted the law. They believe the Barrow gang was in the area, especially because news was traveling fast about their recent evasion of police again. Right. Lawmen collect a group of 50-plus people and surround the camp. Oh, my goodness. Again, a shootout ensues. W.D. is shot in the left calf, left wrist, in the chest, and thumb. Clyde is shot, too. But he and W.D. are still able to escape. In the car. Gee, Louie. The car gets stuck on a tree stump, so it had to be abandoned. A second car is located to steal. However, the posse hits that car with a barrage of bullets. 64 shots later, the car just dies, and so the gang, well, actually three of them, Bonnie, Clyde, and W.D., are now on foot. Buck and Blanche get separated from Bonnie and Clyde and W.D., and they are caught. Blanche is half blind. Buck has a severe head wound. Both are taken down and immediately carted off to hospital. In fact, Blanche, at one point when they found her, the shots were being fired. She actually throws her body over Buck to protect him because he can't protect himself. So she is there. Of course, she's blind in one eye, and the police are able to get up on her. In fact, there's pictures of this, and I'll put it on Facebook and stuff, of her. It looks like she's freaking out because the police have her. But later she says she thought the cameraman had a gun, and they were just going to kill her right there. And so she was, like, freaking out. So they are carted off to a hospital. Five days later, Buck does succumb to his injuries in Perry, Iowa. Blanche is sent to prison. Now, while this is all happening, escaping through the woods, Bonnie has to be carried by W.D., who also has many gunshot wounds, but they are able to get away. Oh, my gosh. That's crazy. It's insane. The gang steals another car from a local farm family but later abandons it in Polk City, Iowa. At this point, it seems the gang members, or what's left of them, it's W.D., Bonnie, and Clyde, have no idea where to go, what to do. They literally travel all over the U.S. for the next six weeks. They are in Colorado, Minnesota, Mississippi, Illinois, and then end up returning to Dallas to visit family. W.D. leaves Bonnie and Clyde and heads to Houston, where he's promptly arrested and goes to jail. November 22, 1933. After visiting family, now it's just a couple, they barely escape again. Police were tipped off that the duo were in town visiting their family, so they surround the family home. A shootout occurs because why wouldn't it? And both Bonnie and Clyde were wounded in the knees. Badly injured, the couple makes their way all the way to Salisaw. It's just like, how could this be worth it? I have no idea. You know what I mean? At what point do you just say, I'm done? I'm done doing this. I'm done doing this. They make it to Salisaw, where allegedly Charles Arthur, pretty boy Floyd's brother, takes them in and cares for them. Oh, that's interesting. This ambush enrages Clyde. We already know that he is hardened. He is a hardened criminal. He has no respect for law enforcement, especially law enforcement that is big on themselves. He is enraged because the shootout happened, the ambush happened, with both his and Bonnie's mothers present in the home, and it made him mad. Because in his mind, it's one thing to come after me and Bonnie. It's another thing to come after us when our mothers are with us who have done nothing wrong, except maybe aiding and abetting. So seeking vengeance, Clyde stalks two of the lawmen responsible for the shootout. It was Smoot Schmid. What was the name? Smoot Schmid and Bob Alcorn. On January 16th of 1934, Clyde extracts his revenge on the Texas lawmen by orchestrating a raid on Eastham Correctional Center, freeing Oklahoma criminal Raymond Hamilton, Henry Methvin, and others. This now begins the federal manhunt for Bonnie and Clyde. Texas Ranger Captain Frank Hammer is called back from retirement to hunt the couple down, yet he always seems to be one step behind them. April 1st, 1934, near Grapevine, Texas. Two officers are murdered, allegedly by Bonnie herself, when they approach the couple's car to see if they needed help. This is reported to be the first time Bonnie actually pulled the trigger. However, it is later, Henry Methvin later says it wasn't Bonnie. It was him that did it. Henry, who was traveling with the couple, claimed later, like I just said, he claimed later that he was the one who pulled the trigger, when he mistook what Clyde meant when he said, let's take them. He was unaware that Bonnie and Clyde typically kidnapped lawmen. They didn't usually murder them right off the bat. Key words, right off the bat. Right, right, right. Well, without a shootout, I guess we should. So, this is a quote about the event. The officers had ridden in and were leisurely racking their motorcycles, apparently with no thought of danger. Let's take them, Clyde says to Henry. Henry had been with Clyde only a short time and had never been in a situation where Clyde had kidnapped officers before. To him, let's take them meant only one thing. Of course, he was badly frightened. He was an escaped convict and wanted for a number of things. Also, he and Bonnie had been drinking. He seized the guns, whirled and fired a steady volley. Both men crumpled to the ground without a sound, their guns still in their holsters. Clyde was white with rage. He was cursing furiously as he slid over the seat and under the wheel. Bonnie told me that Clyde swore at Henry for two days because of the blunder he had made. Not that Clyde was against killing policemen, but simply that he saw no sense in doing it unless it had to be done. So, by Henry's own words, he was the one who had killed the policemen, not Bonnie. And even Clyde kind of backed that up, saying that Bonnie hadn't done it. But I believe, in the court of public opinion, it was Bonnie who had done it, who had did it. This is a rollercoaster ride in the media. The media definitely loved Bonnie and Clyde one day, feared them the next, and then hate them and thought they were disgusting the day after that. And it changed daily. They were one of the original media power couples, though. They were sensationalized, and definitely to the point that their notoriety lasted well beyond their deaths. I mean, we're still talking about them 100 years later. With Methvin in tow, the couple heads to Oklahoma to escape the Texas law. While parked on the side of the road sleeping, a farmer sees the group and reports the car as two passed-out drunk men with a girl in the car. Alarmed that the girl was in trouble, Constable William Campbell of Commerce, Oklahoma, responded with Police Chief Perry Boyd. Campbell is quickly shot and killed, but Boyd was taken prisoner. He was later released in Kansas with a clean shirt and money to get home. Before being left by the threesomes, Bonnie had one request of Boyd. Can you guess what it was? No. She told Boyd to, quote, tell the world I don't smoke cigars. Because remember when those pictures were developed? They were released to the public, and there's one where there's cigars in her mouth and she's got the gun. Yes. Well, I guess, you know, the media was like, ah, she's smoking cigars, and blah, blah, blah. I mean, because that's the worst thing she was doing at the time, smoking cigars. And she just did not like that that was her reputation. Oh, that's funny. May 1934. Clyde, at this point, has 16 warrants out for his arrest all over the United States. Texas Ranger Hammer has been tracking and watching the trio since February of that year. He has noticed their patterns, and he has begun to be able to predict where they go. And he is confident that his time has come. The three often trade off visiting and hiding out with different family members, including Methvin's family in Louisiana. Hammer decided to get a posse together. Six men, himself, Ted Hinton, that I mentioned before, Alcorn, which was mentioned earlier, B.M. Galt, Henderson Jordan, and Prestis Morrill Oakley. With a name like that, you have to be in law, I think. Like, look at that name, yeah. May 21st. An ambush was set up along Louisiana State Highway 154, south of Gibsland, towards Sales. The six men were in place by 9 p.m. They waited all through the next day. They believed Bonnie and Clyde would take this way to pick up Methvin from his family's home, because he had been dropped off and then subsequently caught by police at his family home. 9-15, May 23rd. A vehicle approaches an almost given up posse. They were about to give up. Methvin had pulled off the side of the road in his father's truck. The posse was hoping this sight would lure the couple into pulling over to help. Clyde's V8 approached and slowed down, as hoped. Instantly, though, Clyde is shot in the head and most likely killed right then. Bonnie, on the other hand, did not fare that well. Her screams were heard all over the place. 130 rounds of ammunition later, and the last two members of the bloody Barrow gang were dead. I just feel like that's overkill. I mean, you know what? 130 rounds? We're going to get to that. But, no, I agree. That was complete and utter. I mean, I get that they didn't want them to escape. I think some of the biggest issue and controversy in this is that they were never given the chance to give up. Now, would they have given up? Probably not. But they were never given that opportunity. And there's a part of me that's like once you realize that Clyde was dead and Bonnie was I mean, I don't know why. I don't know. You're right. I think it was complete overkill. They had the opportunity. They could have stopped and not have to possibly not kill Bonnie at all. I guess they just wanted to make sure. I think they wanted it over. They just wanted it over. Yeah. 112 bullet holes were found in the car. 17 bullet entrance wounds were found on Clyde. 26 entrance wounds on Bonnie. Several of those shots were direct head shots, including a shot that severed Clyde's spine. Oh, my goodness. This is kooky facts. Undertaker CF Boots Bailey had a hard time embalming the bodies due to all the bullet holes. I mean, at this point, why would you? Yeah. This is another one. It's another kooky fact. The posse was temporarily deaf due to the ambush. That I believe. Yeah. Now, this happened. Everybody around this town or this community that was outside of this road heard it. Yeah. I don't know how you couldn't hear it, you know? Right. I mean, not with that racket going on. Right. There was a mad rush to the scene of the ambush by civilians, and Bonnie's hair was literally cut off of her. Pieces of her bloody dress were torn off of her and sold as souvenirs. I mean, it's the 30s. I know that was like a thing. Well, I mean, they were notorious. Exactly. So, they're going to clean out the car. More than a dozen guns, several thousand rounds of ammunition, automatic rifles, sawed-off shotguns, semi-automatic shotguns, assorted handguns, and 15 sets of license plates were taken out of the car. Geez, Louise. This is another cookie fact that I found out during this. It was common at the time for furniture stores and funeral parlors to occupy the same space. This was the case here. So, you could buy a new couch and purchase your casket at the same place. This event became a circus event in this little tiny Louisiana town. Oh, I'm sure. They went from a town of 2,000 residents to 12,000 within hours. It put them on the map. Absolutely. New tourist attraction. Oh, for sure. This is another cookie fact. H.D. Darby was an undertaker at the McClure Funeral Parlor, and Sophia Stone was a home demonstration agent, both from nearby Ruston. I think the home demonstration agent was the furniture person. Both of them came to Arcadia to identify the bodies because the Barrow gang had kidnapped them in 1933. Parker reportedly had laughed when she discovered that Darby was an undertaker. She remarked that maybe someday he would be working on her. Darby did assist Bailey in the embalming. I think I would feel really sad if that was me, if I was Darby. I'd be like, I don't know. It might have been not so sad because she kidnapped her, but I'd be like, oh. In the end, the couple did wish to be buried side by side, but the Parker family would not allow this to happen. 20,000 people attended Bonnie's funeral. So many so that her family had a hard time attending. Cards came from Pretty Boy Floyd and John Dillinger. The largest flower arrangement at Bonnie's funeral was sent by the Dallas Newsboys. She sold their newspapers. Now, here is a kooky fact. A lot of researchers and people who are very knowledgeable in this area will say that this indicate this was the end of the big gangster era. Capone was getting right, he was off in jail now at this time. A lot of the big mobsters were kind of very hidden and underground. Two months after Bonnie and Clyde were killed, in Gibsland, Texas, or in Gibsland, Dillinger, here's a kooky fact. Two months after Bonnie and Clyde were killed in Gibsland, John Dillinger was killed on the streets of Chicago. Three months after that, Pretty Boy Floyd was killed in Ohio. One month after that, Baby Face Nelson was killed in Illinois. Here's another kooky fact. Parker's niece and her last surviving relative is campaigning to have her aunt buried next to Clyde still. Barrow's enthusiasm for Carr was evident in a letter that he wrote from Tulsa in Oklahoma. Kooky fact. Sorry. I think I wrote this twice. Anyway, because I rewrote it again over here. February of 1935, 20 members of Bonnie and Clyde's family are arrested and tried for aiding and abetting. All 20 either pled guilty or were found guilty. Both mothers were sentenced to 30 days in jail. Blanche was sentenced to 10 years but was paroled in 1939 for good behavior. She's at the Missouri State Penitentiary. She's almost kind of a victim, but not really, because I think at any point she could have walked away. I'm at the end now, but I just want to jump in to just mostly Oklahoma connections. On Monday, June 26, 1933, the Bloody Barrow gang reportedly stole Dr. Julian Field's car while the doctor was inside the Enid General Hospital. The next day, the car was located, abandoned, but Dr. Field's medical case was gone. So it is speculated that the medical equipment was needed to tend to Bonnie's leg injuries. Now, I had mentioned that there had been that armory break-in and that there were two armories that kind of argue which is the first that was ever robbed in the U.S. I don't know that you'd want that title, but whatever. I mean, if it's by Bonnie and Clyde, probably. Yeah, probably. So in Enid, of course, there is an armory there. July 7, 1933, it is on the record books, the first recorded break-in at a National Guard armory there in Enid. This is what was stolen. Thirty-five automatic pistols. Forty. Forty-five caliber guns. Three pairs of field glasses. One pair of triple-power French observation glasses. Eighty magazines for the pistols. Numerous fingerprints were found and recorded. Two machine guns were also taken along with 2,000 rounds of ammunition. The cache also included a Browning automatic rifle where Clyde would later weld three 20-round clips together making a short, maneuverable, 56-round machine gun that would fire five to ten rounds per second, and he nicknamed it his scatter gun. Jeez. Additionally, during this robbery, the gang obtained five of those Bar machine guns that he really loved, 46 Colt .45 automatics, and 10,000 rounds of ammunition. I just have to, like, seriously, what is going on at this armory where, like, five people can bust in and steal all that crap? I think it was literally reported that they, like, backed a car up in, opened it up, and just started throwing stuff in there. What's that say about their security? Yeah, exactly. It's alleged that the couple often would hide out in Cookson Hills with Pretty Boy Floyd's crew. This is per Billy Parker, who was Bonnie's sister. In November of 1933, when I had mentioned that they had arrived in Salisaw and sought out Pretty Boy Floyd's help, he claims that he refused their help, but many people believe that his brother did, in fact, take the couple in, especially because Bonnie's leg, that was just right when it happened. He could have refused, but his brother might have. Now, after releasing Chief Boyd from his kidnapping up in Kansas after the murder of the Sheriff Campbell in Commerce, the couple was believed to have hid out in Tulsa seeking the help of retired gangster Willis Newton of the Newton Gang. Retired gangster. Yes, yes, he's retired. It is believed that while housed by Newton, Clyde penned his famous letter to Mr. Henry Ford of Detroit, Michigan, himself. The letter that arrived to Henry Ford was postmarked from Tulsa on April 10, 1934. And here's what the letter said. It's from page 76 of that book, Oklahoma Scoundrels, by Robert Barr and Smith and Lawrence Nyden. It says, Tulsa, Oklahoma, 10th April. Mr. Henry Ford, Detroit, Michigan. Dear sir, while I still have got breath in my lungs, I will tell you what a dandy car you make. I have drove Fords exclusively when I could get away with one. With sustained speed and freedom from trouble, the Ford has got every other car skinned and even in my business hasn't been strictly legal. It don't hurt anything to tell you what a fine car you got in the V8. Yours truly, Clyde Champion Barrow. That's hilarious. So here, this is about it. It makes me wonder what Ford had thought about that. I wish that we knew what his reaction was. This is a kooky part of it. The letter's validity has been called into question, especially since 17 days later a similar letter was mailed from Tulsa from John Dillinger. However, handwriting experts believe the handwriting looks that of Bonnie's, making the letter authentic. And we have Bonnie's handwriting samples. We know that she was a good writer. So she could have just penned it for him while he said it. And to wrap this up, even though Bonnie and Clyde weren't from Oklahoma, their wild tales and lives were all over the state. Blanche Barrow herself was an Oklahoma girl. She was from Oklahoma. She was madly in love with Buck and had no idea what she was signing up for when they were married. And I just think that she was blinded by love, and yes, she probably could have walked away at any time, and she just chose not to. We could do a whole episode on Blanche Barrow herself. Yeah. And maybe we will. Maybe we will one day. Yeah. But that is the story of Bonnie and Clyde. Crazy ride. It was. It was very interesting to research it. I didn't know all of it. I mean, I knew that they were sensationalized. Right. I knew that they had just this tumultuous life. But I really think that despite all that, they really did love each other. And if they didn't, why would they stay together for so long? Right. And I just think, like, they literally physically could not get married because her husband – her actual husband didn't die, I think, until 1937, and he was in prison. And maybe – I don't know. I don't know if she would have asked if he would have gave her a divorce or, you know, at that time period, he just was looked down upon. There's no telling. No, but she wore that wedding ring, and I think it's like you said. I think it was to make people think that she was married to Clyde. And maybe in all ways she was minus the legal paperwork, I guess. Right. Because it's not like they were going to be able to walk into a courthouse and get married. Not with their lifestyle. Right. Right. And maybe they could have gone to a different state. Maybe they didn't think about that, but it probably required money. Well, like you said, I mean, finding that roll of film, you know, they probably could have gotten away with a lot more if that hadn't been found. Right, because that put their picture everywhere. Because that put their picture out there. People knew who they were. Yes, exactly. And obviously it made it more difficult for them. Yes, yes. So, yeah, that's the story. It's a good, I mean, that's a good, crazy, crazy story. You know, it doesn't happen like that anymore. Thankfully. No. Thankfully. It doesn't happen like that anymore, but what a time to be alive. And it's funny because this whole time all I'm thinking about, oh, my gosh, my grandmother was alive during this time. I'm sure she doesn't remember. They were killed when she was two. Right. So she probably doesn't remember it, but she probably had siblings that might have at one point. I bet our Aunt Catherine probably would have remembered it happening. But, yeah, so that is, wow. I hope you guys enjoyed it. It was a long one, sorry. You took us on a wild ride. I apologize. I hope you had fun. 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