WOM REBOOT EP14-THE HEART

Nate and Shelby discuss the concept of having a pure heart in their podcast. They reference a scripture from Matthew 5 that says, "Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God." They talk about how they thought they had pure hearts because they went to church and believed in God, but they have realized that their hearts are tainted with impurity. They compare this to congestive heart failure, where the heart begins to fail and decay. They believe that it is important to constantly evaluate and clean our hearts in order to prevent further decay. They also talk about the Holy Spirit as a defibrillator that can shock our hearts back into alignment with God's will. They acknowledge that it is difficult to be like Christ in a world filled with evil, but they are grateful for the Holy Spirit's help in keeping their hearts pure. What up? Welcome to Word of Mouth podcast with Nate and Shelby to Reboot. We are back in the building. What it do? Man, we're excited, happy. Nate's excited because he knows I'm ready. I'm ready. I can call myself out on the carpet. Oh, my God, I'm ready. Well, we're going to call ourselves out today, right? Oh, yes. As we always say. You, you're going to call yourself out. Oh, okay, okay. You're going to call us out. Nope. I do it every time. Oh, whatever. I do. Listen, we're excited today because we're going to talk about this thing called the heart. Mm. Mm. Mm. Woo. We ready to talk about it today. Now, we're going to unpack some things. We're going to put some scripture to some things, and we're going to make it make sense. Not for understanding from a psychological place, but being able to understand the revelation behind why it's important to have a clean heart. Amen? Yeah. I was just noticing your watch band, just in case you forget your name. She's talking about me. It was a gift from my daughter. Okay, and I'm not, I'm not, I just think, I was like, what? When did he get that? Oh, my God. She's messing with me. So, um, uh, yep. I'm glad y'all can see my watch band right now, but we're going to talk about this thing called the heart. Can we open up with a scripture, Shelby? Yeah. You ready? Yeah. Let's do, let's do Mark. Mark 7? 21? No, no, not that one. No? No, let's do Mark 5. Mark 5? Mark 5, yeah. I think that's... You switched it up on me. Did I? Yeah. Because ain't Mark 5, uh, blessed are the... Oh, the Beatitudes? Yes. Oh, it's Matthew. Is it? That is. I'm sorry. No, it's okay. Matthew 5. Good job. I'm starting to get my, my attitudes, my Beatitudes. I'm starting to get my Beatitudes right. I'm starting to get my addresses. Yes. Thank you. She knows her words, y'all. Thank you, Jesus. Okay. Matthew chapter 5. Go ahead. Uh, you want the blessed are the pure in heart? Yes. Please. Guess what they get to see? Who they get to see? They get to see God. Listen. Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God. For they shall see God. Blessed are the pure in heart. Mm. How many of us are those? Mm. Mm. Mm. We gonna open this thing, for real. Because, you know, I thought I was a pretty dang good person, but, uh, Lord's been... You and me both. Lord's been opening my eyes to my tainted heart this last few days. Tainted heart. I love it. Tainted. You and me both. We thought we had a pure heart because we go to church. I'm, I'm a good old believer girl. You know, listen. I've been thanking God and praising God since I was, as long as I can remember. So, I thought I was just that good old guy on my way. Fighting evil. Come on. Doing the right thing. Walking by faith. Fight the good fight. And my heart is full of stuff. My heart is pickled with taintedness. It's good. I love that one. So, let's talk about it. Pure heart. Let's talk about it. Pure. Pure heart. So, can you honestly say that you have a pure heart? No. Okay. Why? Oh, because I'm flesh. Well, yeah. Yeah. And I live in this world and I'm weak. All of the above. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to have to agree with that. My heart is not pure all the time. I'll be honest. I know y'all think I'm perfect. I know. I know. Yes. Sorry. Well, we know there's no one that's perfect. There was only one perfect being, and he's here, but he's not here in the flesh any longer. Say it again. Amen. And we thank God for you. We're supposed to try to be like him, but we fall short every day. Every minute. Every second. For me, every... Every breath. This heart thing, it causes me to really take self-evaluation checks every day. So I'm going to give you kind of a scenario. So my mom had what you call congestive heart failure. Yeah. My dad did too. So I know you can relate to this. In congestive heart failure, it causes the heart to begin to fail more than normal. Now at the time that I'm guessing the doctor caught it, it was a little too late for her to receive a transplant because her age and the cavity around it and stuff like that. So she just kind of had to wait it out. And from a spiritual standpoint, I begin to understand that some of us in the spirit realm have what you call congestive heart failure. We've been damaged or that thing, that muscle has been damaged so much that it's failing daily. That it's starting to decay. Pieces of the meat is starting to come through other organs. Necrotic. Yes. And it's decaying all the time. But I believe, I believe that from this side of it, especially when it's spiritual, you can still receive healing from it. I believe. Oh, I sure hope so. Because it hasn't failed. It's failing. Right. But it hasn't failed. And I think what happens still in the spirit realm, what happens, any time you allow your heart to be in a thing, whether it's friendship, relationship, job, school, work, whatever it is, and it constantly goes through the ringer of life, if you don't get it cleaned or fixed or back in. Cleaned up. Yes. If you don't get it right standing, I think it's going to continue to fail. And I think some of us have went through congestive heart failure for so long that now it's starting to decay. Because we've let it just go and not even tried to understand that our heart's supposed to be pure. Help. Please help me. Help. Help me. I'm looking at myself like. Help me. Help me. Man, I don't want to go. So they had to put, going back to my mom, they had to give her a thing called a defibrillator. And the defibrillator is, because of the failure of the heart, the defibrillator is to shock it back. Right. Thank God for the Holy Spirit. For the Holy Spirit. He's our defibrillator. So the defibrillator is supposed to shock us back. Well he shocked me this weekend. Thank you. Thank you too. So the defibrillator is supposed to shock us back into that place where we understand, yeah, God, that wasn't, that wasn't you. I think I was in my flesh. Ouch. Ooh, God. I wasn't supposed to say that. I think that was all me right there. That wasn't you. That was me. So thank you, Holy Spirit, defibrillator, for being that. Because sometimes we need to be shocked back. Do you think that we literally can walk through our day being like Christ the whole day? No, I don't believe that. No. No. I don't believe that. That's why I thank God for the defibrillator. Yeah. Thank you, Holy Spirit. That's a tall order, man. It really is. Think about it. You know the culture and the world and the system we live in. Yeah. People act weird. We're in the last day. We read a scripture earlier and we'll read it later. We're in a day and age where people are prone of being rude and treacherous and mean and hurtful and murderful. Murderous. Yeah. Murderous. Did I say murderful? Murderful. Okay, Nathan. People are known of just being evil. And people are known of just being evil. And people are known of just being evil. And people are known of just being evil. And people are known of just being evil. And people are known of just being evil. 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Please, ladies and gentlemen, write this down. There's a difference between solution and pollution. Yes, there is. If you think that all the time you have to have the solution and your heart is that way, you're polluting people because the solution is geared back to God. I'm raising my hand. Me. I'm talking to me. No, we're talking about me right now. Jesus. And can I just say something because it says mean looks. Oh, my God. Fix our face. What's the other thing that God's been dealing with me about? Be quiet. Be quiet. You don't need to talk all the time. You don't need to have an answer. You don't need to. Okay, so be quiet. But if anyone knows me, my face doesn't shut up. So your face is screaming. Oh, and I can't control it. I can't even I don't even realize it's making the faces it's making. But if you know me, just understand. I don't know how to make my face shut up. I can shut my mouth. So can you wear glasses? Like, no, it doesn't make any difference. We need to go back to COVID. I just put a big old mask on. Just walk away and put your head down. Oh, my God. Our facial expressions tell. Well, mine do for sure. I even have a T-shirt that says if my mouth don't say it, my face will. Oh. That sucks. That sucks for me. And I know that some of you all can relate to that. Like, your face, you don't have to say a word. If something is out of whack, weird, a little shaky, blah, blah, blah, you looking like, mm. Mm-hmm. Mm. And it will your face probably said a thousand words. Yeah, but you have a poker face. I have no poker face. Y'all sign up. If I ever play poker, you need to sign up because you'll beat the pants off me because I don't have a poker face at all. Shelby is not telling the truth right now. So, Shelby and I, we have an opportunity to minister in song at a ministry that we work for. And I try my best to get my face intact. You do a really good job. Honey, you know I don't. I mess up and they look at me and I'll be like, oops. Are you okay? Everything good? I'll be trying to play it off. Now, when your face twitches, when your eye twitches, then people know someone's going to get it. Someone's going to get it. Our face. Our face. So, thank you for that scripture in that version, though, because our facial expressions, I mean, we're still thinking it, basically. A gentleman thinks in his heart, so is he. Okay, well, there's one thing at a time. Seriously, if I have to keep my mouth shut, I can't control my face and my thoughts and everything else. That's real. I love it. We have to claim our victories. If I can keep my mouth shut, that's a big victory. That's a victory. So, let's hold on to that victory and then we'll go to the next. I got you. Yes. If this strong, independent woman can just zip it. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And look away. Just look away. I don't know about looking away. I'm asking too much. Our hearts, our hearts can tend to become so filthy and so dirty and so messed up to where we have to go through a heart wash in my Shelby voice. Not a car wash, but a heart wash. Now, a heart wash is not in the physical realm. And it hurts and it's not fun. Whoa, say it again. Sometimes we think that if we go and just, you know, I'm just going to be quiet and isolate from people. That's not washing your heart. No, it's taking the easy route out. So, you're going to call me out like that. Okay. I know we don't like it. I don't want to tell you right now. If you're not faced with the stuff that makes your heart ugly, you can't get over it. I did it for years. I thought if I isolate, it would just go away. I'm cleaning it up. Cleaning the island. And it didn't clean it up. It actually made it worse, to be honest, because I still had to face it. Well, and not only that, but you get so set in your ways. Oh, you're talking about bitter? Yeah. You're not tolerant of anyone because you're used to you. Yes. And so when you're around, especially the people that may have contributed to the bitter, you start realizing how deep that root is. It is a very deep root. And when you're around that entity, you have to be a person. When you're around an entity, you're like, why am I acting this way? Why is my face all messed up? Why am I thinking these thoughts? Thinkity thoughts. Why am I feeling this way? Because I didn't go through the heart wash. And I have to say that one way that I'm dealing with it and trying to get it managed is, like as soon as I'm starting to think one of those thinkity thoughts, those stinking thoughts, thinking, thinking. I like that. I'm learning to just be like, no, that's not my thought. So you take it into captivity quickly. Yes. That's so good. But if I don't take it right away, yeah, it'll run away with me. Wow. And that goes back to I'm learning the things that I'm preaching. Hello, thank you very much. Wow. Live in the moment. Live in the moment. But, you know, I have to say that I was in such a place of, and I don't want to say survival. It hasn't been survival because I've been very blessed, but such a place of fighting that I take what everyone says as an attack. And that's what's created the bitterness because I think everyone's motive is to be snide or to have a motive behind it that's not good. Yeah. And it's humbling. You have to get humble and be like, I can't make a determination as to where they're coming from. That's not up to me. You're so right. And I just have to deal with the moment, and then the moment's over. And not go back to the moment. I like to go back to the moment. So based upon what you just said, so we're not giving anyone a chance, even if it's new people or new entities that come in our life at that moment, at that time, because we're so bitter, we're so closed off, that we're not giving anyone a chance. Not a fair chance. That's it. Not a fair chance to even show that they are genuine, to show that they have some type of authenticity of themselves because we're closed off. Well, and for me, it was a protection from wanting – I didn't want to be disappointed. I don't want to be disappointed by people. You're absolutely right. It is protection. So it's just a protective device. If I keep them in that place of they're just going to hurt me, they're just going to piss me off, they're just going to – their motive is such and such. They just want something from me, whatever. If I keep them in that box, then I'm not really shocked when they disappoint me. Wow. So that's such a defense mechanism that so many of us carry that we don't even know we're carrying it. Right. There are people that God sent, and I believe this with all my heart. There are people that God sent. Excuse me, Cricket. Mr. Cricket wanted to jump in there. Okay. Thank you. There are people that God sent into our lives, God sent to our lives that we would probably be suspect of because of what we… Okay, really? Because of what we haven't healed from. Right. And it causes us to always be on defense because we're not healed. We haven't went through the heart wash. Everybody's wicked now. Everybody wants… Something. Something, or they want me to… Or they're not being honest. They're not being truthful about their intentions or their feelings or whatever. They just want something. I believe it, and I believe some of us have lived that life for so long that we don't even know how to get rid of it. That's why we're talking about it today. And you know, as much as I did not like to hear the words reflect on your behavior, if I hadn't, I mean, God used that, and it may have not been reflecting the way that the person who said it was thinking I should, but it created a whole situation for me that opened my eyes to a lot of stuff about myself. Well, look at how it says reflect on your behavior. That means you have to look. And you have to see your reflection in the mirror. And I did, and I didn't like it. Oh, my God. But it really wasn't about the situation that I had left. It was about the bigger picture. Sometimes we never see a reflection because we're always looking at everybody else. And sometimes we don't want to see the truth about ourselves. Who wants to do that? I was going to say, who wants to? That sucks. To think, you know, I think I'm a pretty good person. And then I get that, and it's like, you're not. You're right. You're really not. Ruggle bus. Yes, yes. And that reflection teaches us, yeah, let me clean this stuff up. I'm not as good as I thought I was. And it's not comfortable. No, never has been. It is not comfortable for me to be quiet. Say that one more time. It's not comfortable for me to be quiet. And it's so funny because when I was a kid, I was a quiet, introverted, introspective, really deep kid. And then I got into my sauciness, I guess. Oh, sauciness. Come on. And I do think that there's a certain amount of confidence that comes into maturity and stuff like that. It comes along with it. And so you do get tired of the bullshit, and you're just going to call it as it is. But at the same time, I could shut up. Well, do that come with, and I want to ask you this question, especially for the people that have went through a lot of trauma, do you think that that is a helpful tool for them to begin to learn how to speak or how to not be quiet because they've been told to shut up for so long? Do you think that's a helping component of now they're not silent anymore? When people have went through so much trauma, maybe it was mental and physical abuse. Right. And they couldn't speak for themselves. And so now to be able to speak, do you think that can be a helpful thing? Yes. I think that, yeah, because you can get stuff off of your spirit that needs to come off. Because you're speaking it now. Right. And you're acknowledging it. And there is some truth to acknowledging stuff or at least speaking it out because then it is an acknowledgement. So do you think that it's a balance? Sometimes you have to speak. Absolutely. Yeah. And, you know, we've been talking about the call to action. So speaking is definitely needed. I'm not going against what we've been talking about. I'm just saying that from my own – I mean, this is my own life I'm talking about, what I'm learning. I just think it's a balance. You have to understand. It's more of a understanding who you are and learning yourself more. We were reading in Ecclesiastes earlier. And it says it's a time to speak and it's a time to refrain from speaking. These are seasons. So there are times where you just got to shut up. I know that was hard for some people to hear. Yeah, and I think that for us who have just maybe gotten our voice or gotten comfortable with our voice, are strong independent people, which really ain't that strong or independent. It's like, well, why would I do that? Why would I want to be shut up? I don't – like I just got here. I just got my strength. I just got my independence. I just got this. Why would I shut up? When God tells you it's time to shut up, you got to shut up. Even when the person looking at you is going, why are you so quiet? Because I've been told I need to be quiet. You just be quiet. It's not that I don't have a lot to say about the subject. Believe me. Oh, I can speak if you want me to speak. You can have a go at my damn tongue. Well, I ain't going to say nothing right now because I don't want to say anything out of character. I don't want to say anything that is not pleasing. Also, this is a part of reflecting. I'm reflecting on what should I say and what shouldn't I say. Yeah, is this a time for me to speak or not? Period. But that also leads into what we speak. It does come from the heart. If I say something and my heart is not right, it ain't going to come out right. And I may say something that can really hurt not only them, but me too. There have been times, Cheryl, that honestly, I had to shut up. I had to. For my life, I had to shut up because I wanted to say something so bad. I wanted to destroy people with the words. You know, in the book of James, it says that our tongue is full of deadly poison. I can rip you apart, not with my hands, but with my tongue. But I know I had to shut up based upon the repercussions for me, but also the repercussions. Because I knew I was going to destroy them, but I had to shut up for me. I don't want to reap that harvest of destroying someone with my mouth. Death and life. Are in the power of the tongue. It didn't just say life. I was just going to say that. Death and life. Yeah. My heart ain't clean. I need to shut up. It ain't clean. Where's the heart wash? Is it on a certain street? It's on the corner of God and Jesus. Come on! We got to get to that heart wash, y'all. And humility. Yes. And I think, you know, we do have to stop and be honest with ourselves, which is not a comfortable place to be. No. Not at all. Not at all. But I think if we really were honest with ourselves, we would see a lot of impurities in our hearts. And just because I've had a revelation does not mean that I'm pure now. Believe me. Is it just one revelation now? Yeah. No, I'm all better. My heart is all good. No, it don't work like that, buddy. It definitely don't work like that. I think we fall prey to thinking that, I think you said this earlier, because I'm a good person, that we think that that's going to be the doorway. Have you looked at least at your heart? Go back to what David said. He was talking about creating in him a clean heart. Now, all through Psalms 51, his enemies was pissing him off. You read it. Really? Yeah. Really? I know nothing about any of that. I mean, literally, his enemies was like coming against him. They were speaking all kind of craziness, trying to kill him. And he was like, nah. I've had bad enough of you. Right. I'm going to say this. I'm going to say this. He was like, okay. Creating me a clean heart. God, renew my spirit. God, renew my spirit because I'm angry. Yeah. I'm frustrated. Yeah. I'm tired. Yeah. And my ego just got dinged by someone telling me to reflect on my behavior. There's a little sting there. Just a little bit. Just a little bit. Just a little bit. But I'm willing to take the sting and I'm willing to pay attention. Thank you. And I'm willing to go, hmm, well, I'm not perfect. I'm pretty damn good, but I'm not perfect. And then God went, no, honey, you're not even damn good. Oh, my God. You're good. Wow. But let's have a talk. Let's get real. I think we said this last podcast. Can you handle the truth, like the honest truth? Can we honestly hear the truth from God when he literally tells us about ourselves for real, for real? Well, I left the ministry going, Lord, I'm sorry I'm such a wretch. Oh, my God. That's truth. It is truth. Because we start examining ourselves and then putting someone next to us and now we're trying to compare. Yeah. But I'm better than them. I'm better than them. I didn't do this. I didn't do that. I didn't go over there. I didn't buy it. Yeah. So we're comparing now. Comparison always kills. Yes, it does. Because we'll all have sinned. And I don't think God is comparing based upon your good deeds and their good deeds. I think it's the sin. God says the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life. He's not based upon how much good you've done. He's not based upon how many times you go to church. That's why it's not by works, because then we'd really be comparing ourselves, wouldn't we? One up on each other left and right, trying to get into heaven. All the time. Can we still do that? Can I talk about it? He's not even based upon what kind of title you got. Uh-oh. No. Sorry, y'all. That's not even based upon. You still toe up from the floor up. You messed up, dude. And you need to go through the wash. Our hearts are, as the Bible says, it's full of deceit, and we've got to get it cleaned. Well, and I can say right now that I just think, like, God's just kind of washed the surface. I'm waiting. I'm waiting for that scrub brush to come out. I'm waiting for that pumice stone to come out. That's good. I'd be like, oh, we're going to get in there. We're going to really clean this sucker. Were you growing up, or even now in your house, do you have what you call or go through those moments of, like, a deep clean? Yeah. Okay. It's been a while. Don't tell anybody. Okay. So I'm going to build upon that. So it's been a while for a deep clean, but you clean, right? The surface. Surface clean. So when you deep clean, does that take time? Mm-hmm. Effort? Oh, yeah, you've got to put elbow grease in there, man. I was just about to say, does it take some elbow grease, some getting on them knees and scrubbing and cleaning? It takes you addressing things that you have not addressed in how long? Stuff you've put back on the shelf way in the back, put in the corner, because you don't want to see it. You know, especially if you've got to, like, clean out closets and stuff and get real about the shit you don't need. Because it's been sitting there for how many years? It's been sitting there for how many years. You need to get that out of your rearview mirror and just clean it out. Oh, I'm not talking about clean it out. I'm talking about actual. I'm saying. She said it, y'all, and you can't lie and say it's not the truth. Well, you can, but you'd be lying. Some of us are surface cleaning our hearts. Didn't we talk about truth last time? It'll set us free. It'll set us free. I need a heart wash, complete heart wash. Get it out of me. Every day, there's a particular scripture that I always say every day during prayer. God created me a clean heart. I renew my spirit. I repent. I say these things every day, but I've got to start acting them out. If I'm going to ask God to create in me a clean heart, I can't turn around right after that and flip somebody off. I'm not saying it's not going to happen, people. We're thanking God for deliverance every day, but it should be a conviction. Some type of conviction needs to kick in somewhere. If you're still doing the same thing constantly and there's no change. You're just rolling with it. You're just going with it. Like, wow, your heart ain't even reached water yet. You haven't even dusted it. It's got dust bunnies and cobwebs. Oh, my God. Staying serious about your heart. We've got to clean it. We've got to clean it. I noticed something. I think we were talking about my mom, your dad, congestive heart failure. I noticed something in that. If she was a recipient of a heart transplant, she would have had another heart. Some of us, because it has failed so much, we can actually get on the list of another heart. Because this one has been damaged. We've been damaged so much to where it will still seep out fluids. The tainted, toxic stuff? Pickled. We need another one. God, I need you to put something inside of me that you created, that you put together for me to continue to live. Because I'm dying slowly. Yeah, and a lot of times there's only so much we can do in the flesh. God's the only one that can create in us anything new. Yes, ma'am. Like a mouth or an arm or, you know, all kinds of things. That's it. The only one. I noticed something else with the heart. You do know that you could be completely brain dead and still live. Absolutely. Wow. But you have to have a heart. The other way around don't work. If your heart dies, your brain can't survive. Once the heart stops, that's it. So that is the center of your being. Come on. We got to clean this thing up. Mm-hmm. We got to clean it up. I don't know. I know. You don't have to tell me because he's been working on it. Me too, honey. Me too. It's not fun. No, it's not. I think we've not even cared about having those heart attacks. Now we're in congestive heart failure. Oh. Heart attack. Heart attack. Maybe that's what I had. Really? My heart was attacked. Yeah. With anger. My heart was attacked with bitterness. Oh. My heart was attacked with frustration. My heart was attacked with tiredness. Fatigue. Mm. Mm. Jesus was attacked with it. The Bible tells or it says something so great in Galatians 6 and 9. It says don't get weary in well-doing. You get tired of doing good. I wonder why he put that in there. Do you think that we might have needed that reminder? Oh, that's funny. Good Lord. I get tired of doing good for inducing. You do get tired of doing good. Let me tell you. Yes, you do. And I could do a lot more good. I ain't saying I'm lame at it. I mean, I am. Jeez. I'm weak. But you do get tired. Of doing good. Of doing good. I wonder why that scripture was there. Yes, exactly. Thank you, Lord, for putting that in the word. Yes. I think because he knew somehow because he is Alpha and Omega. Somehow. He probably felt that way. Yes, of course. Of course. It says in due season you shall reap. But he didn't act out of it, though. But we do. Yeah, we do. Damn right, we do. We get real tired of doing good. Some of us shut down. Some of us do worse than that. Yikes. Tuck, tail, and run. Oh, my. See ya. Call me out again. I'm going to start playing with the thing. Call me out. Tuck, tail, and run. But we got to stop. We got to stop. Let's get our heart clean. I think there's a scripture in John. I think it was John 14. I actually read it earlier. Jesus said something that was powerful. He said, let not your heart be troubled. Because if it gets to a place of trouble, then you won't be able to acknowledge me, nor would you be able to see God. Because blessed are those that have a pure heart. They shall see God. If your heart is troubled, everything is blurry. You can't see. And like I said earlier, I have not heard. I have not been hearing God. Gee, maybe it's because my heart was in a bad place. You think? How many of us can relate to that, though? Thank you for saying that. Like, God, are you even talking? I've been talking. Your ear's clogged up. Yeah, exactly. I mean, you know, that's the thing. Like, he never leaves us. We are either just busy, distracted, whatever, have our earbuds in and ain't, you know, not our physical earbuds, but our... Our spiritual earbuds. Yeah. And just ain't in the place where we can hear him or feel him or whatever, and that's why you pray for an awareness of his presence. Yes. Yes. Or we're distracted by all the chaos that's around us, and it's causing us to pay attention to that more and not hear God. Right. And something I want to say, because you and I talked about this earlier, society says, follow your heart. Do what your heart tells you. The Word says the absolute opposite. Complete opposite. The Word says the heart is deceitful and wicked. So, y'all best not be following your heart. Unless it's clean. Right. And I'll tell you from experience, because I just got my little face slapped a little bit about there, that my heart was not in the right place. Yeah. Yeah. So, don't go along with what culture says, society says, whatever. It gets us so twisted, and we will take some culture saying or some cliche, and we will make it law. You know, I just got rid of Facebook and Instagram. Wow. Because I found myself paying too much attention to all the stupid videos and stuff. Like, these people are, okay, and here I am on a podcast. Like, I'm a professional anything. But, like, before social media, I could just live life, and I would have my own keel, right? I could decipher for myself what the truth was, what people were saying, whether they were being honest or not. And with social media, you get all chaotic, because you've got input from all these different places, and you ain't even listening to what your own discernment is telling you. So, discernment is so very important, and if we are confused because of the chaos that's coming in from outside, it's going to be very hard to discern fact and truth. So, yeah, I did get rid of it. Wow. That is powerful, Cheryl. I hear you say all the time, man, I try to copy this word because it's powerful. You use the word overstimulated. We are that because of everything that's taken. Like, it's everywhere. Everybody's a reporter. Everybody's a counselor. Everybody's a preacher. Everybody's a teacher. Everybody now. Right. You're actually getting stuff from every which way, and you're now like, okay, what is truth? What should I do? Right. You can't even hear yourself no more. No. I commend you for that. Like, ooh, that's a challenge to me. That's really a big challenge. I mean, my accounts are still there, but I deleted the apps from my phone because it was consuming too much of my time. And, yeah, I need to get back to my own discernment. Yeah. That's a really, really good thing. Wow. Because your discernment can be cloudy and misconstrued in a different way because you're hearing so much. There are three gates. I talked about this years and years ago. Three gates that the enemy try to creep in. Your eye gates, what you speak out of your mouth, and your ear. Your ear gates are so very important because you know if faith come by hearing, everything else can come by hearing. And he's a counterfeit, so of course he's going to try to copy God. Imitates everything. Yes. If I can get in that ear. He does it very badly. And we have to be able to at least discern the difference. That's why we need discernment. Your eye gates are so important. What you're watching is what you're paying attention to. It costs. You're paying attention. That's Nathan's favorite thing. Man, that's so good. Thank you for saying that. That should be a challenge for some of us. I want to discern for myself. I don't need 25 counselors, 67 teachers, 240 preachers, and a bunch of psychologists. Everybody's telling me what to do. Exactly. And you know, I think that I've been tempted to read the book of Enoch and not that it's wrong or anything. Right. But something keeps saying to me, you just need the word and that's all you need. You don't need extra anything added to it. Find your answers in this one book. My God. And so I haven't done it because I think that I'm supposed to find the answers in the one book, the Bible, and not go beyond that. Now, I'm not saying it's wrong if anybody is, and they've been directed to do other things. I'm just telling you what my voice has told me, what I have heard in my own self. I appreciate it. This has blessed me. Thank you. This is a segment where we go into Shelby's Corner. We're going to call this Shelby's Corner because she's going to pray and all that. But I want to encourage some of you all. You put me in the corner? No. Shelby's Segment. Shelby's Segment. But I do want to encourage you all to please, please take a moment to reflect on the things that you are actually doing. Don't be cloudy in your discernment. If your heart is not pleasing or pleasing God, get it cleaned. Get it cleaned. And be honest about the true motives behind what you're doing. Yes. Because I can tell you my motives had gotten pickled. As you said, ego. A lot of people won't admit to that. I'm serious on that. When you talk about pride and ego, that's a touchy subject because a lot of people won't agree. I'm not prideful. I don't have an ego. Seriously? No. Just to admit it says a whole lot because a lot of people will not admit that they walk an ego. Who do you think you are? It's not fun. It sucked. I was not pleased. I was not having a great day. But I'm feeling a lot better about it now. And if anybody can take away anything from my experience, then I'm going to share it. Can I share a quick story about this ego real quick? I was blessed to be able to operate in music. Blessed with a voice. Nathan has a very good voice. And I was singing on stage one time. I was with a praise team of people and I was singing. And oh my God, I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm going to say it. Out yourself. I've operated in such an egotistic way that it was terrible. And I set off in a corner somewhere like, God, I need your forgiveness. Please forgive me for that. Is that why you get so weird about singing now? I do. I really do. He won't take any credit for singing. So I'm going to tell you what happened. So I'm on stage. I'm with this praise team. I'm singing. I'm singing. And I saw people, sad to say it, but I'm going to say it out loud. I saw people walking up to the stage where I was and they were putting money on stage. Like on the altar. And I'm like, huh. So I'm singing real good. So I'm going to start singing a little harder. And they're constantly putting money on the stage. And I'm like, well, that's for me. I'm the one singing. Dang. So I'm thinking shit. This was for me because I'm doing this. Oh yeah. I'm in the church like this is me. This ain't got nothing to do with God. I'm killing it. What? And God sat me down. Oh my God. Oh yeah. And was like, who do you think you are? Oh, yep. Yep. I got that speech. To talk about it. When people say, well, you can. No. I give God the courage. Now I understand. Man. I understand better. I was so hearty in that. I was so. Oh man, I was so full of myself. And even with singing other kinds of music. I will. I'm going to go ahead and out this part. I sang another style of music. And I would tickle the ears of women. Because of the music. Were you very white? I really thought that it was all about me. We do that. We twist things. We get up in our flesh, man. I'll tell you. I'm example number one. So thank you. Thank you. For at least talking about it. Because this type of wash. This is not the normal wash. When you have to wash it. When you have to reflect. It's not the normal wash. You're ready to reflect when it comes to other people. Oh yeah, we're ready to reflect on other people all the time. Come on, you know. But when it's you, man. That's called judgment. You better know it. Thank you Cheryl for letting me say that. Because I was messed up. But God, I still repent. And that was years ago. I'm talking about 2001 and 2002. But I still repent for that moment. Because that feeling right now. It disgusts me. Because I thought I was above God. Yeah, I know. But isn't it freeing? Yes. To acknowledge as much as it hurts. And it does not feel good. And it's like, oh wow. I suck. Seriously, I suck. But then you are like, well. I'm feeling better. So wait. He turns things around, yeah. God turn it around. Yes, come on. Thank you. Are we done? This is Shelby's segment. My corner. On the way here. There is someone. And I think there's more than one person. You know, you've heard the saying. That if a tree falls in the forest. And no one's there. Does it make a sound? There's someone who wonders. If they fell. Would anyone hear them? Because they feel so alone. So I want to say. To that person right now. My heart's like beating a million times. A minute right now. You are not alone. Nathan and I. Love you. And. God loves you. And. You would most definitely be heard. If you fell. So trust in him. Lean to him. He will catch you. And then he'll rebuild you. He'll renew you. Which is something we've been talking about. So don't think that. You won't be heard if you fall. Don't think that no one cares. Don't think that. You go unnoticed. We see you. I feel you. Because God put you on my heart. So you got me for sure. And if you need to reach out to us. Please do. Please. And on that note. I'm going to pray. Heavenly Father. We humble ourselves before you Lord. We really do. And I want to also mention that in my study today. It was about. Our calling as high priests. And Lord. How privileged we are. That that veil was torn into. And that we can be in your presence. At any moment of any day. Of every day of our lives. And that we can pray to you. At any moment of any day. Of every day of our lives. But Lord we. And I'm speaking me. Take it for granted Father. We take it for granted. That there is no barrier between you and I. Or you and us. There's nothing between us. We don't have to go to a priest. We don't have to go to. Another person to pray for us. We don't have to go to anybody. Because you have allowed us. The ability to do that. And I speak for myself to say Lord. Forgive me. For taking that for granted. Help us Lord. To come to you with reverence. And the understanding of the privilege. That it is to be in your presence. When we come there. And also Lord. Like we said earlier. You never leave us. So Lord I pray that the people who are listening. Understand the value of your presence. That it would envelop them. And that it would be shown to them. In a very personal and tangible way. That it would be undeniable. To them. And that it would even be a testimony. And a witness to the people around them. So it would create a ripple effect. Father God. I pray for the men in this world. I think that they are so. Sometimes lost in their identities. And I pray Father that they would identify. And they would know their identity in you. Before they know their identity in anything else. Lord help them to take up their identity in you. And to understand what comes with it. And to do whatever they have been called to do. Without any qualms. To be bold. And for the women too. But I think. I think the men need to understand. Their identity in you. Father God we just thank you. For our ministry. And we thank you. And we thank you. Father God we just thank you. For our many many blessings. That we take for granted every day. And I am speaking again for myself. There are so many things. That I take for granted. And I know that as flesh beings. We do it all the time. And know I am not alone. So Father we take these moments right now. To just thank you. For all the things we take for granted. Pray Lord for our service men and women. Wherever they may be. That the blood of Jesus covers them. And that they go out. And pronounce you to the world. And the places where they are. And they give you the glory. And they come home in better shape than they left. Father God I pray for their families. I lift them up as well. Because they are. Dealing with times of silence. Not knowing what is going on. You know things worry. And just. The absence of those people in their lives. For moments. And I just pray that you would strengthen them. And give them peace. Lord we all need your peace. We all need your peace. This world is a. It's a special place. And we all need your peace Father. So pour out your peace upon your people. Right now Lord. In the name of Jesus. Pour out. A fresh anointing. A new wind. Everything that we might need. To go forth. And to flow. And to move forward the kingdom. Lord humble our hearts. Create in us a new heart. Help us to really be honest with ourselves. And to allow you to strip down the walls. And help us to see. Where we are really. Needing help. Where we are really struggling. Where it really comes from. And what the true root of it is. In the name of Jesus. I take authority over. This country. I take authority over. Our financial institutions. Our educational institutions. Our judicial system. Our political system. And our military. System. If you want to call it that. And in the name of Jesus. I command the enemy. And any demonic forces. To be tossed. Back to the pit of hell. Where they came from. They have no place here in this nation. They have no place in this political system. They have no place anywhere. They have to go. We are sick and tired of it. Lord embolden your people. To weaponize your word. To use it. The way they need to. Help us to have knowledge and wisdom. And spiritual understanding. And definitely discernment Lord. Please. Give us your discernment. Father God. I just pray that for everywhere. These words that the blood of Jesus. Would cover them from the top of their heads. To the soles of their feet. And that you would be. Right there with them. Let them know they're not alone. And that they're so. So very loved by you. And it's in the holy. And almighty name of Jesus Christ. That I pray. Amen. Thank you all so much for tuning in. To word of mouth podcast. With Nate and Shelby to reboot. Thank you.