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The main ideas from this information are: - The WRAP podcast discusses regional and national rugby in Wales. - The hosts discuss recent rugby results and their personal lives. - The Scarlets rugby team has confirmed the departure of 15 players, including Wyn Jones, Scott Williams, Brian Combier, and Jonathan Davies. - Team manager Sarah Davis and strength and conditioning coach Rhys Jones are also leaving. - The hosts express surprise and discuss the implications of these departures. 61-14, 34-13, 31-20 and 44-21. That's a pretty shit week you get every weekend there boys, but there we go. That's Welsh Rugby for you. Nobody's allowed to complain about how much the WIU give us. Let's start the show. Welcome to the WRAP podcast, the place to catch up on all the regional and national rugby in Wales. You can find us on all the usual social media platforms and message us through there if you want, or you can email us on welshregionalrugbypod at gmail.com. With all the boring stuff out of the way, let's talk Welsh. Hello and welcome to this week's edition of the WRAP podcast. I'm Lee G, joining me as always, full crew, Jamie, Harley and the return of the grift. Okay yeah, you can tell James is back. He's not got any panda eyes or nothing. How are we gentlemen? Let's start with the new dad I think. I'm good, I'm good. Yeah, back to work on Friday and then back up with the little one on Saturday and back to work this week now. I'm feeling good boys. It's been a long couple of weeks obviously, but I'm feeling good. Welcome back. That wears off mate, that feeling good bit just kind of wears you down over 18 years and you get to 18 and they go, I'm off to university and you go, I'm fucked for that and then they're gone. My partner did say, are you going to record mate? Are you going to take another week off? The first week back at work and I said no, I listened to last week's podcast, it was a fucking shambles. Every time I'm gone there's no decorum, there's no sense of camaraderie, no balance. I need to get back. It's the opposite on the WhatsApp group, you're the one who causes all the problems. Strangely enough last week's figures went through the roof mate, so I don't know what to do. To be fair I won the year last week either, so I reckon it was big M, it was big M last week. Celebrity appearance. The comedian gave a follow in. I tell you what, he's on holiday this week, I couldn't remember which week he was on holiday so I sent him a message, I said are you on holiday? And he sent me a photo of himself sitting in the sun with his budgie smugglers on. Even as I'm saying it now there's an image in my head that just won't leave me and this cheesy grin and the big beard and then Martin. I love the guy, but there are some images you just don't need to see. Only Martin with time is holiday at the end of the community game. It was all sewn up by then mate, it was all sewn up. Let's do drink of the week then boys, so let's see how the last couple of weeks have affected you James, what have you got mate? I have gone for a Northern Monk, it's by Northern Monk, which I believe is a Danish company, I think it is. It is called Transient and it is 7% hazy DDH APA. What I'm more concerned about, it's not the wanky bollocks, that's fine. Clearly it's a Stella can with the sticker on it. I thought it was printed on, but it's not a sticker, so it's clearly a Stella can. So the wanky bollocks we've got, get lost in haze, a blazing hazy APA that will take your taste buds on the ultimate trip. Craft brewed with Northern pride and packed with ripe juicy flavours, always fresh from the North. I haven't had a sip of it yet, so I'm going to have a sip of it now. So, did you do a traditional? That's the 7% kicking in. Are you sure it's not one of those sour things that Jamie likes? It's alright, it just wasn't what I expected it to taste like. Did you wet the baby's head properly? No, we haven't seen anyone at all. I literally, so we got messed around with the dates for my partner's C-section quite a bit. So I was under the original impression that I was going to be able to go to my Rugby Awards evening, but they moved it to the day after, sorry, the birth was the day before. So we got home on the Friday, he was born on the Thursday, and then about half an hour later I said, right, the baby's asleep, I'm going to FaceTime into the Rugby Awards. And so we haven't had a proper wet the baby's head yet, so I believe we're doing something soon. I'm back in Wales in two weeks' time, not over half ten, bringing the baby down, so I'll leave the boys with a few ideas there then. That's bloody inconsiderate, not timing the birth of the baby in line with the end of season awards. Well, I have been fined for not attending. I believe at the next possible opportunity I do have to buy a jug. It's got to be a jug of baby shampoo, Jamie. No, it's got to be a jug of lager, and I also do have to do a pint, because I won an award I wasn't meant to collect it. That's fair enough. Jamie, what have you got in your fine keeping of alcohol this evening? The latest ale from Wales Ales, I have got Mumbles Like from Mumbles Brewery. So this is quite, well it is very light, it's 3.4%, so it's not going to get you pissed, you can have a few of these and you don't have to worry. Wanky Bollocks, let's see what it says. It's a new recipe and under a new name. We made it lighter in colour, lighter in body, lighter in bitterness and lighter in strength. We give you a highly sessionable, semi-pale ale with a crisp flavour and a subtle blackcurrant aroma. I'm not picking up much blackcurrant, I've got to be honest, but it's perfectly fine, it's drinkable, it's not too heavy like some beers can be. So, yeah, that's Mumbles Like from the Mumbles Brewery. Did you think with blackcurrant in it it would be dark? Do you know what I mean? Yeah, for YouTube viewers you can see it is a very light colour. It's fine, this is fine. Would I buy another one of these? No, probably not, if I saw the supermarket, but I like trying different ones. Yeah. I've got a weird question. Is perfectly fine a Newport saying? Because Gav says it all the time and I just thought it was something he said, but he does say it a lot as well. I don't know. I just like the idea of perfectly fine as being the most Newport attempting imaginable. Well, apart from the values being Gav's, so it could be a values thing, couldn't it? So, yeah, it's a Charlie Atkinson of anything. You've got affinity then. Affinity. Let's not go down that route. What have you got, Holly? Well, speaking of Newport, I'm doing the J-Muse this week and I've got Tony Reber of 505 in honour of the Arctic Monkey song, one of the best set closers ever, and that's not up for discussion. The wonky box on this is, we have one rule, never just make another ice cream, which is a bit big at Swansea as well with Joes. I cannot speak as a former Joes employee. I'll just take a point there. Yeah, so it's 6.2, just very nice hoppy. They call it a Neepo, which I think, well, I don't know if they're trying to say it's a Newport idea or a New England idea or whatever, but it's nice. I've also got some Coke to wash it down with because 6.2% of the amount I drink these days I'll be on the floor. Well, I picked up one of my strangely named beers and put it in the fridge at lunchtime and didn't actually check the back of it. And then about an hour ago, I was going, right, okay, let's get ready for the pod. And then I looked at the back of it, given some recent experiences of drinking 8% alcohol on the pod, and this was 8.5, so I thought, bollocks to that, I'm not going to have that one. I picked up a bottle of cider that I had lying around. So what I've had before was a Pembrokeshire cider company, it's the William Marshall cider, and the only blanky bollocks on it is that he's from Pembroke and William Marshall is from Pembroke and they make it in Pembroke. He never actually visited Pembroke, as far as I'm aware, but he gets all the credit. So, yeah, it's a nice case. It is quite dry, and it is quite nice, but it's a summer drink, and it's just pissing now, and it just doesn't feel right, but it's nice, it's a nice one. Right, okie dokie. Let's crack on then with some Newsdesk, Jane. And while you're doing your Newsdesk, we're all going to be on our phones to see if Cardiff have actually announced it. So if we all start getting excited, it's because Cardiff have announced something while Jamie's talking. Go on, mate, you crack on. Okay, let's start with the Scarlets then, shall we? So, big clear up down west. Last week, the Scarlets confirmed the departure of 15 players, and that included the likes of – I'm not going to name them all because we haven't got time, quite frankly, but it's including guys such as Wyn Jones, Dan Jones, Scott Williams, Brian Combier, and Jonathan Davis-Foxey, who at the age of 36 is not retiring. He's just looking for a new club. So it will be very interesting to see where it ends up. That's got America or Japan all over that, isn't it? So, yeah, interesting to see where Foxey ends up. And then off the field, team manager Sarah Davis and the strength and conditioning coach Rhys Jones are also leaving, with the latter having worked with the Scarlets for 16 years. So it's a big clear up going on here. Lee, what was your reaction to the news? Anything that stands out to you in those lists of names seeking a club? Yes and no. I mean, there's some that probably should have gone a while ago. I think the one that a lot of people are shocked by is Combier. He was all singing and all dancing 12 months ago and just hasn't had a look in the last 12 months. Had an all-right game on the weekend. And, yeah, just don't really understand that one. The rest of them, I mean, Wyn Jones is another one that people are a little bit, you know, he's probably got the scrimmage in that we need as he got the all-round place. And there's rumours going around on Facebook and social media about background stuff that I'm not going to get into for various different reasons. We were told at Christmas time it was going to be 15 and then it slowly drip-feeded. Sarah, I think that's a big shock. We were told something different at the time. We were told it's a restructuring of finance and it's just going to be financed by the WIU rather than Scarlett. And then the next day she's gone, which is ridiculous. But we were also told that Charlie Titcombe was probably leaving and he's not on that list, so he's staying. So that's a big bonus. And Leatherbarrow as well. We were told Leatherbarrow's probably leaving and he's not on that list. And we were told Lousey's going. And we were told Craig was going. So there's names that were kind of expected that are staying. So it is what it is. We'll see what comes next season, to be honest. Moving on to the Ospreys then. Bad news for the Ospreys and Wales. Zlock hasn't been accepted in this Wales this summer matches because of an ankle injury. Toby Proof said he fell out of a line-out near his ankle. I can't see him playing for the rest of the season and it will be difficult for him to tour this summer. I know we've always spoken about Adam Beard being a Marmite player, but for me that's a big blow for Wales in the summer tour. It's a big blow for Ospreys as well, of course, but he's highly rated as far as I'm concerned. I think he's a really good player. He does need a rest. Disappointing news. I mean, there is stuff as well. He hasn't stopped playing rugby. Probably non-stop since the start of the 2021 season. He toured at the Lions, then straight into Ospreys. Barely missed a game for Wales. He is a Marmite player. Obviously, the Facebook have been loving it. What does he bring and all that? But it is a huge, huge loss for us. In a position we're already short in because we've got so many second-row injuries. Yes. I can still see Adam taking him anyway. Even though he's injured. He took him when his appendix literally exploded. In Japan. Gatland loves him. Gatland will have him just so he can cuddle him at night. It's the son he wanted as opposed to the son he's got. It's not brilliant. Yes, anyway, so Beard is likely out for the season. And then today, Ospreys have announced ringer slash centre Tom Florence. He signed a new deal. The 21-year-old has made 11 appearances for Wales under-20s and featured in three separate Six Nations Championships. So, yes, good news for the Ospreys. They're keeping hold of their young talent. Let's move on to Cardiff then. Seven-story Rory. I'm sorry. I've got to say this, right? I spoke about this on the group. What is it with Cardiff and his supporters and fucking cringy nicknames for players? It's so cringe, isn't it? Seven-story Rory. So, yes. I'd rather cringe your performances than the awful nicknames that you're coming up with. It's really, really bad. Excuse me. Who's lost 10 in a row? I mean, that's dragons form right there, Harley. So, given that Jamie's brought up just how bad nicknames can be, I think we all need to ask our social media followers for a nickname for Jamie for next week, and it's got to be as equally cringy as seven-story Rory. Nothing will be as cringy as that. The Lane train left the station, genuinely. Lane train. It took years off my life reading that sentence. Honestly, I'm not so in Lane's biggest fans, right? But poor Sod. And he's Welsh as well. That train didn't even leave on time, bless him. Go on, Jamie. Bristol as well, so I'll get it twice because they've got Rich Lane, who they call the Lane train. Of course, yeah. What other ones? Jinkin, Jarrod, Hot Stepper. That's Willis Halahola. We never did a description of Halahola when he was fully fit. Nipper was fine. I didn't mind Nipper. Nipper got originated in Ospreys. I didn't mind Nipper. That was an Ospreys nickname. And it's also nicknamed Simba. Yeah. Again, not cringy. Seven-story Rory is like a fucking wrestling meal. Oh, it's fucking awful. That's late-stage WCW there. That's like fucking Eric Bischoff fucking. What's Thomas Young's? He must not have one. He doesn't really have one. Yeah. No, he's not. No, he's not. Yeah, I suppose. He's got more to do with him than Derwin's boy. Yeah, I guess so. That's Lewis Chung, who has two nicknames. He's Derwin's son and Cyclops. Enough of Cardiff news then. Yeah, anyway. Kieran Parker, he's going to retire from rugby at the end of the season to pursue a career outside the sport. So, the Tiedead have played six times so far for Cardiff after arriving last summer. That was a bit out of the blue. A bit out of the blue, aren't you? What do you expect in that one? No. It was, wasn't it? You asked. Yeah, just... I mean, I just feel like it was... I don't know who it was. I think it might have been Hugh who said, did Kieran Parker have the ultimate Cardiff season? Like, turns up, gets red carded to nearly killing a guy and then retires. But the boxers are retired after 1-0, aren't they? He was just sticking around and Cardiff didn't want to offer him another contract and he just went, oh, fuck it. It's a bit like what happened with Ian Academia. He never did anything to warrant a contract for me. Like, he was below average in... To use the Gwent Valleys expression, he was perfectly fine. Okay, so that's the Cardiff news then. Just a little bit of track. I'm sorry, James, you've got to set this up now. Dragons... No, it's not field tier tier either. They've appointed a key member of Gatlin's backroom team as the new head of performance, so Dr Ryan Chambers, who is currently head of sports science with the WRU. He's been employed by them for the past 15 years. He's going to join the Dragons this summer and he will be replacing Dan Bow, who, of course, is leaving to link up with the Georgian. So, it's not field tier tier either. He's going to join the Dragons this summer and he will be replacing Dan Bow, who, of course, is leaving to link up with the Georgian. National team. And then my final bit of news. Welsh Premiership final. So, Llandudbury made it back-to-back titles after edging out Newport 14-7 in the Welsh Premiership final at Church Park on Saturday. Really good game, this, by the way. Commiserations to Newport. They've had a fine season. Ty Morrison's men have won... Well, they did win 15 matches in a row before this final, so, yeah, fairly entertaining game. Congratulations to Flanders. We've won another well-deserved title win. The EDC is looking quite good for next season, apparently. So, let's... I'd say we're all quite happy now. Jamie's given us some good news. We've had some cheery bits. There's people coming in. And now we've got to discuss last weekend. Here we go. Right. Another sobering weekend for last Friday, wasn't it? I wish I wasn't sober for it. Jamie's must be sitting there going like, maybe I can stretch the whole paternity thing for another week and just ignore rugby for another week. I was considering that. We should be used to this. We should be used to this now, shouldn't we, though? These weekends. So, start us on Friday night, then, Jamie. Dragons of Salk. I mean, it was a lovely night. Let's start with that. It was. It was a lovely night, wasn't it? It was a beautiful night. Well, the first thing I want to say, I want to give a shout-out to Brock Harris. So, Brock joined us on the Dragon's Lair, Paul. We did a bonus podcast with him. And he was talking to me from the Stormers Tea Hotel in Cardiff. And what a nice guy. Genuinely lovely bloke. We had a good chat before and after we recorded. Just a really nice guy. Great chat. Yeah. So, I want to thank him for coming on, giving up his time. He, I don't know, just finished his captain's run and he jumped on. And, yeah, it was a really interesting chat. Just talking about his upbringing, his career. He talked about the differences between scrumpture and the loose and the tight. Talked a little bit about Stormers. So, it was a really good chat. I really enjoyed it. And he was a bloody nice bloke. So, thank you to Brock for joining me last week. In terms of this game, then, Stormers head coach, John Dobson, said the final scoreline was probably one of the most unfair ones I've seen in rugby. And he is 100 per cent right. Because that scoreline does not tell the full story. So, if you haven't watched this game, but you just saw the score pop up on your phone, on Twitter or whatever, you look at it and go, oh, well, that's just as expected because the Stormers won by 20-plus points. That's what a lot of people had in doubt to win by. You just think, well, yeah, fine. But, like I said, that doesn't tell the full story. So, I actually thought Dragons, for large parts of this game, had forced the Stormers into making a lot of errors. We were the better team in our first half. We had 72 per cent possession and 77 per cent territory. And yet, going into halftime, we were only winning by one point. Which is pretty disappointing because I felt our dominance should have had more points on the board. But an error from Wilbeed, who failed to collect it up and under, led to their first try. It was a lovely kick from Gallant, by the way, to set it up, but it came from an error. And it came out to the blue, that's right. Because, in our first half, the Stormers didn't really fire a shot. We were well on top. But, like I said, going into the game just one point ahead, into halftime, just one point ahead, it felt a little bit unjust. But, in the second half, I think the Stormers were much better. They came out and started the play with a lot more energy and tempo. But, we stuck at it and we were leading. In our final quarter, the Dragons were 21-16 up. Aaron Wainwright was doing Aaron Wainwright things. He was outstanding again. He's right player of the season. Aaron Wainwright, I think he's been absolutely outstanding. Led the charge yet again for the Dragons. Harry Keddy worked incredibly hard. I thought Roderick Jones was excellent. It's no coincidence that when he went off, our Scrum went to shit, which I'll talk about in a bit. But I thought he had a very strong Scrum Gym performance. Dane Blackhurst was pretty good. I know Dane Blackhurst has set the world alight since moving to the Dragons from Scarlet. But, he had a really good game against Connacht. And he had a really good game against the Stormers. So, he's had two really good games now in a row. And I think that he will progress and get better. But, yeah, it was a good performance from him. The Dragons went toe-to-toe with one of the best teams in the UFC. But that game, unfortunately, like a lot of games this season for the Dragons, it was lost in the last 10 minutes. And I don't know what that's down to. I don't know about his fitness or mentality. But the last 10 minutes is where it really goes tits up for the Dragons. So, Rodrigo Martinez gets a yellow card for persistent Scrum offences. And I have to say that I was really disappointed with Martinez. Because he is a pretty decent Scrummager. But when he came off the bench, that's all he did was just give away Scrum penalties. And Chris Busby warned him several times. And then he had no choice but to send him off. So, I was pretty disappointed with that. And then, Angus McBride comes off the bench. Great to see him back making these returns of injury. And then he gets taken off injured. So, that reforces then. You know, we have to reshuffle our backline. So, we've got Steph Hughes playing a fly half. Then we've got Seal Tomlinson moving into midfield. And then we've got a Scrummer, Tate Blacker, on the wing. And then we bring on Morgan Lloyd to make it his senior debut. So, it's a disjointed backline. And, of course, we have to play the game with 14 men. The rest of the game, that time, is with 14 men. And, oh boy, did the Stormers punish it? You know, they scored three tries in the last eight minutes. And it's a shame, really, because that made the scoreline look far worse. The worse should it be. And it doesn't do the Dragons justice. But, look, you know, there were plenty of positives to take from that game. I do think it was probably the best Welsh performance this weekend. And the Drivers seem to let their wounds down. We'll go on to Swansea, where they got a Welsh derby to look forward to. But, yeah, positives, but, you know, several frustrations in terms of game management. Particularly in the last quarter of the game. I read the stats on the weekend. They said the Dragons have led in the last quarter of six games. But they've only won three of them. It looks like, I don't know if that's mentality or fitness. I mean, that needs to be addressed. They've got to start clearly, given their performances. Or they're just going to keep losing week in, week out. But, yes, a positive performance. But, unfortunately, no reward from it. So, from that team on Friday, people have probably heard what Cuthbert had to say about Tier 2 coming in as defence coach. And, basically, kicking people out and what have you. What do you make of that, with that team from last Friday, Jim? Was there players on that pitch that just don't deserve to be there? Or, how are you reading it? I think Dragons have a core of players. And Chris Kerwin from the South Wales Argus, we talked about this on the Dragonslayer pod. The Dragons have a core of players that are probably not URC standard. And I would argue that we've been loyal to certain players who we probably should have let go a couple of years ago. And I'm not going to name names on this podcast. I'm not going to do it on Dragonslayer. I'm not calling players out. But I think we all know there's certain players. You look at a team, you can pick one or two out from Friday. And you look at the Dragons squad as a whole, and you go, I'm not going to name names, but you look at a guy and you think, would he go into any other team in the URC? Probably not. I think some of our guys are Welsh Championship standard. But I don't disagree with a couple of us. I don't see how Theo Theotia is just going to kick people out. Because, at the end of the day, Dave Bramden is the head coach. But I actually think Theo Theotia, he's not just coming in as a defence coach. I think he's going to take on a lot of responsibility. I think he's clearly there to support Dai, because Dai has talked about having someone experienced to lean on. But it wouldn't surprise me if Theo Theotia ends up making a lot of, you know, corner, a lot of shots. So don't be surprised if he needs to go there, change the culture. And I think Dai will lean heavily on him. And if he does go tits up with Dai, you know, and he's not getting the start, I wouldn't be surprised if they say, okay, make Theo Theotia head coach, because he's got that experience, as we know. But I don't disagree with Casper. Yeah, you know, I think he makes a fair point. Yeah, I think some players are at the dragons for the wrong reasons, as he said. But it's just how it is. I think all of four teams are probably carrying players who we think, yeah, they're not quite good enough, but with budget restrictions and everything else in depth, I guess we've got to keep hold of those players every week, you know. Yeah, you'd better have somebody in rather than an empty space. Where's the Theo Theotia thing? Obviously, I didn't get my chance to fucking rant about it last week, you bastard. I am a big non... I hate rugby's obsession with the old school, right? You know, these players have no bottle anymore, or, you know, bring back Rakim and all that bollocks, right? It fucking does my head in. And unfortunately, rugby punditry is still dominated by, you know, leading rugby figures or people who talk about rugby like that. But there is something to be said for having someone like Figo Theotia in your system. That's not necessarily he's going to go out and say, right, you're going to kill some fucker today. Jamie and I were talking in the rap chat earlier about the Dragons-Ospreys game last week, where Guy Flan had said to his players that Osprey's got a young 10 out in Jack Walsh. Go out, pressure him. Let him know you're there. The classic Sunday league thing, or Saturday league rugby, where you're like, you're first hit boys, let them know you're there, all that. And the Dragons players, particularly Fairbrother, Moriarty and Tomkinson, took that as, let's kill this poor Australian boy. You know? Subjected him to physical torture. But there is something to be said about that when you have a character like Theotia in, you know, Sean Holly said in comms that, you know, if you can keep Gerry Collins in check, then you're doing something right. There is a case of having that, not old school, but having that grit. I can't ever imagine Guy Flan getting shanked, let alone getting angry. So having someone like Theotia, yeah, someone having Theotia there, who's basically like his enforcer, you know, it can only be a good thing. Which he probably was. You know, Guy Flan was at the off-strips when Fila was there. I can imagine Guy Flanagan maybe looking somebody straight in the eye, and then bringing his glasses down to the end of his nose, and looking at them over the top of his glasses. I think that's about... That's about as angry as Guy Flanagan is. I'm not angry, I'm just disappointed. That's what he says to the players after every game. He just looks like he leaves a tripod laser in his... That's the extent of his anger. So I think Kasper is right, but I do think that he will bring a culture of, you're going to die for this badge, or you're not going to wear it. Because that's essentially what he did at the off-strips, when he was a player. He was 36 when he joined the off-strips, right? And he left there, a cult hero for a reason, but he had the attitude of, you are going to die for this badge, or you're not going to wear it. Yeah. Exactly what the driver sees. I think he's a guy that will command respect in that respect. So let's see how it goes. I am optimistic. It's made good appointments, but yeah. We'll see what happens. So, next game over the weekend, then with Scarlets and Ulster. I thought we made steps again, small steps forward again. I thought Tupelo came back and actually showed a little bit of the promise that he started to show last season. We were missing a couple of big names who we've relied on a lot this season, Alex Craig, Sam, Big Sam. There were some big names out, and actually the boys that stepped in actually did very well. But that first half, Ulster just didn't look like getting anywhere near. They certainly weren't getting close to beating us the way they did in that first half. So I counted three clear opportunities today where we should have actually put a better try on. If we'd have held a bit of a cool head and actually looked at what the right option was, we basically took the wrong action. And if we'd have taken the right option, then the chances are we'd have been in for at least two or three tries. But we've been slow to get off the mark. We've been slow to finish games. We had the first 20, the last 20, where we've been awful for most of the season. We played the first 40 superbly. We didn't concede in the last 15. So there are two yellow cards, two stupid yellow cards. I've still not 100 per cent on that Gareth Davies one. It didn't look purposeful. You've got to slow that down a hell of a lot. I know what you're going to say. No, no, no. You've got to slow it. You'll get your chance on the off-springs anyway. I partly agree with you. I partly agree with you is what I'm going to say. I agree with you in that. I'm of the opinion that trips are a weird thing. James Rattley had one against Ulster earlier in the season where I was like, you've got to slow that down quite a bit to see whether he stuck his leg up first, then his arms. But it's clear, ultimately, if you put yourself in that position, you run that risk. Well, when you look at it, he runs from behind the referee. He's coming at Gareth Davies. The line he's running at happens to be behind the referee. Gareth Davies is in really, really late. He's not in a position to tackle him. He runs straight through him and he trips over him. I didn't say he trips him. I'd say he trips over him. I'd say it's a penalty, and that's about as much as it goes. But it is what it is. There were some stupid penalties that we gave away. We'd given away stupid penalties in the A22. It's like going back to last season. There's nobody grabbing it by the bollocks and saying, this is what we're going to do. Can I completely stop you for a second? Neath RSC has just put out an alert. There's breaking news right now. Right. Oh, God. After our amazing end-of-season party, we are looking to make further improvements to our grounds and facilities. Our gym, recovery centre and change rooms have been updated. The Ospreys won't be playing at our ground next season or thereafter. This was after representatives from both clubs have met. We wish Swansea and Bridgend all the best in securing that contract when Osprey CEO Lance Bradley makes the long-anticipated announcement. Instead, we will focus on growing Neath RSC and the Panthers as our illustrious clubs host an elite sevens tournament and other prestigious rugby events, as well as music and food festivals, family events such as Christmas Day, Lightswitch and our Neath fireworks to contribute to the success of Neath RSC and enliven our town. It really is all happening at Neath RSC. Fuck me. Do you know what I like about this announcement? Because I'm lucky. There's a big red cross on the Ospreys logo. There's a big red cross on the Ospreys logo. Next to the big red cross. I love the logo. Brilliant. That's basically just saying, fuck you, Ospreys. Anyway. I suspect that this actually matters. Oh, yeah. I agree with you, Lee. I thought they were getting better, but they were looking better this and last year. What's going to stop them just going to complete the shit in the off-season again? Yeah, and that was our argument at the start of the season. We had three warm-up games where we didn't put any of our senior team players at all in our warm-up games. So for about seven players, I think it was, I think we counted it at the time, seven players, their first warm-up game was URC kick-off. And not Welsh players, not Welsh squad players or international squad players. It just didn't make sense. So, yeah. We're improving and improving and improving. The problem is that we take a step down over the summer and we've got to start improving again. Yeah. Frustrating. But they were plenty excited. I thought Jo and Nicholas, there were a couple of breaks that Jo and Nicholas made. Very underrated. Very underrated. I like them a lot. And I think I'd like to see him stay at full-back. I think he's a utility back, so he plays everywhere. But I'd like to see him stick at full-back just because he was, yeah, he's really starting to find his feet there. Yeah. RR2. RR2 carried well. I've got to say, though, how dull was Tame from 3-0 cards. Oh, ridiculous. Because I thought he actually had a decent goal. Yeah. He was so cynical and dull. Like, playing the ball on the floor like that, you would never get away with it. And not only that, Warren Gatland's in the stands. Like, he's trying to impress him now. He's just back from injury. He's going afterwards to Australia, and he did that. I thought, how dull, mate. Especially with Gatland watching, you know? And the thing is, is he'd had like three or four decent runs where he's coming at pace. Yeah. He's taking players out. He's taking three or four players down with him. He's creating space. And you go like, that's what I want from a big six. You know? He's competitive over the top of the ball. He's competitive in a lineup. And then he just goes and does something stupid. It's very frustrating. So dull. But that's where we need somebody like Ken Owens, like Jonathan Davies, with a bit more experience and a bit of knowledge to say, right, boys, calm it. Put the foot on it for five minutes. Slow it down, and let's just do something different. But that's leadership, isn't it? That's what me and Gavin constantly talk about on Dragons, the lack of leadership. It is what it is. Yeah. Yeah. So, talking of lack of leadership, Lyons and Cardiff. Off you go, Ali. All right, well, what can I say that I haven't said already this season? Cardiff won. Don't forget we're in the League of the Dragons, so, you know, we've always got two wins, don't we? Go on, then. And, I mean, as I'm looking at it, one half of the screen has beaten the Stormers, the other half hasn't. Second string Stormers lapsing dogshit. Yeah, go on, carry on. Don't matter. Don't matter. It was second string, though. It was nowhere near first team squad. Anyway, go on. Doesn't matter, we've still got to beat them. If you'd beaten that second string Stormer team, you'd be... Come on, get on with it. Back it out. The only surprise positive was, somehow, we were all right at the scrum. Yes. It went well, didn't it? Yeah. I mean, that's probably the only real positive, unfortunately. Our team has to be massively outkicked. There's no other real support. I mean, Cambrian was imperious, but, I mean, I'll be honest, I say that every week and it's always true. I thought Ellis Devon was very good when he came on the second half. I thought that was a tactical thing. But it turned out, Gonzalo Bertini failed a HIA, which is really worrying as he only took two scrum halves out. So, I don't know, I mean, you might be doing a Scotsman call in Mike Phillips at mid-tour. Getting the Cats a Cardiff. I'll be honest, it was just really lacklustre. There was no real execution. I had a look. Can any of you guys guess how many teams scored, how many teams from the top four men's leagues scored fewer points than Cardiff this weekend? So, top four being Prem, top 14, URC and Super Rugby. I can't remember how many points you scored on the weekend. 13. It's going to be a French team. Nope, no French team. No, okay. Carnot got 12. Oh yeah, Carnot. Gloucester got nil tonight. Which, frankly, is even more embarrassing. And then Wijnaldum, Diffika and the Drouot who scored 10 and 4 points respectively. Oh yeah. Like, Drouot might have scored 7, sorry. But either way, that's pretty fucking shoddy. For a team that's supposed to be attacking Sexy's UA Rugby, our attack is woeful. And we've been trying to sort of say, well, you know, they've got to get used to new systems, new combinations. But, we've had a lot of time there and we're just so bloody stupid. I think part of the problem is, you know when you make a mistake and then you've got to try and make up for it and then it ends up getting worse and worse and worse. There's a bit of that. So like, even like in the last 10 minutes or so when we went out of a try, you know, to superscore from the rolling ball. And then we get a penalty and we've got 8 minutes to go. We've still got plenty of time to score once, score twice, so give us a shout. And we go for the quick tap. We get isolated and then as the blind players are rushing back and the rest calls, yeah, it's all fine, it's all good, go for it. It just comes and dislodges the ball and then Shuka scores again down the other end. Because we just weren't patient and we were just trying to push things constantly and it's just, it's just getting really fucking tiring talking about it. You know, all the talk of us, oh yeah, you know, Manchester and Glasgow got picked up points. We haven't picked up points, we haven't won since Boxing Day, of which a game is such an outlier. If you take that game out of our statistics for the season, we lose half a try a game and then five points. That's how much an outlier that Boxing Day game was. And it's just getting really fucking pissing me off, to be honest. I thought Cam Winnick was good. I thought Cam Winnick was good. Yeah, Cam Winnick is fantastic every day. He looks so much better than most players on the park, whichever team he plays. That's what he is, Imperium. It's just getting really frustrating that we're scoring a handful of points a game when we should be scoring more. We have the opportunity to score more, we don't take them. You get some good performances from people. I thought Mackenzie Martin, when he was on, played quite well in Alan Lawrence, but, you know, they can't do it all. Alan Lawrence looked good, I thought. Alan Lawrence, he looks like a man with a point to prove, and I was quite impressed. He very much fits in that Johan Nicklaus category of he's not good enough to be, like, up here, but he's way better than, like, Welsh Premiership standards. He just sort of sits in the middle. Yeah. Solid reading. You've got to appreciate some good, solid... Nothing wrong with that. Did it happen? I thought Steph Hughes at Scarletts was a perfect example of that, was just, would do the job and would never let you down. Johan Nicklaus is doing it now. You know, I actually thought Dan Evans was that sort of player as well. Dan Evans was good enough to play for Wales. At his peak, he was the best player in the fucking league ever. Steph Evans fucked it up with his haircut, mate. So, the less said about Steph Evans and his haircut nowadays, the better. So, safe to say you didn't enjoy that game on the weekend, and... No, I mean, it didn't help it coincided with a teething baby with a horrific nappy dash screaming at me constantly. So, I had to deal with that. And then, so not only did I have to know that we'd gotten beaten, because it was actually quite, once again, quite close up into the last ten minutes. Then two quick throws and we're out of it. I tell you, I had to watch it back to see this. You boys and you young dads and you're all, the baby's doing this, the baby's doing that. You think you've got problems. My tomatoes haven't come this year. Yeah? I've got no tomatoes in the potting shed at all. You think you've got problems? I spent all day Sunday re-potting rotten tomatoes. You boys got nothing with my baby's got a... It's not quite the same, the only assessment. Yeah, but, the thing is, the baby's... I'm so glad I'm out of that thing. It is. I remember, anytime anyone said about it now, I look back and I go, yeah, nobody gave a shit when I was going through it, so you're fucking not having any either. James, let's talk about the highlight of the weekend and the lens the off sprays me. Because, to be fair, halftime, you were out of the game. Even with 20 minutes to go, you were still in the game. And then the floodgates opened. It's tough. It's tough. There's no... We've got lengths, there's no... You know, we're just really unlucky that because they picked up no points for South Africa, they are having... I say this as if it's their fucking place, and then they're having to play their good team. Like, because they couldn't secure a top spot, they, you know, are trying to maximise their points by playing their, you know, island players. Which is great, you know, good on them. You know, I'm glad that they're in a position to do that. It's really fucking daunting as a team when you're in it, and then they're like, yep, we're going to bring on Dan Sheehan, Jack Conan, James Gibson-Park, Charlie Nathalie, do you know what I mean? Like, it's just, what can you do? And we look... It's not fair, Seth. It's not a level playing field. Yeah, and I've sort of been saving this, right, but Hugh Griffin said to me at the start of the season, he said, it's, you know, it's not fair to compare the Scarlets to the rest of the regions, right, because they have to go, they have two tour things to South Africa, and they went straight down to Leinster then. Um, over three games, we've just done the exact same thing. And we did it in a slightly different order. We, we went out, we taped down, and then, you know, Ospreys have never conceded 60 points in their history, and we've done two in a row. And it's not down to the defensive system, it's down to the person. I don't think, I think it's just that we're so tired. We've got 10 players, I think, on 1,000 minutes now, and 15 on 800 plus. We've got no second rows left. We're just, look, absolutely fucking knackered. And you've been away from home for three weeks. And it is tough. And, look, these sound like excuses, and they probably are. But, at the end of the day, we got beaten by a team with a vastly bigger budget, who were going to bring on a vast different, you know, amount of quality. Um, they'll learn from that. We were inaccurate when we did have the ball, especially in the second half. And, you know, I tweeted out saying, that's what Leinster do, they will smother you, and kill you on transition. Like, that's exactly what they do. And then my focus is on good things. I thought, on the whole, Nagy was good. He's getting back to where he was. Great going forward. You know, probably a bit slow on the turn. Um, let's hope he doesn't use Sage. Um, because Brian Habana will have a field day with him. Um, but I, again, he's a player that's developing his game. I thought Dan Edwards, on the whole, was great. You know, um, tried, you know, that kick across with Luke Morgan, and that disgusting tackle in the air. Should be jailed for that. Um, disgusting tackle. Was a lovely one. Is he your number one, is he your number one, try scorer so far this season? Well, he tries. Mr Penalty, yeah. I need to be probably up there. Then he feels an untried bastard. Yeah, um, so yeah, um, but, I, I don't know what else I can say. I genuinely don't know what I can say that, to our three fans, that 60 points is not good enough, that I know that, but there is contextual reasons behind it. And we, you know, we can go there. What I have learned this weekend is that Leinster fans are the softest fucking people on earth. You cannot say anything about Leinster fans right now, getting a pissy fit. Oh my God. What have you said now? I haven't, I haven't said anything. Am I going to speak to my friend, Leinster again? No, me and Robbie had some great banter with them on the team. She just came out. And a lot of that was white half. And then someone, an American seller, tweeted about his general set of gifts. He does on the weekend. And then one of them was about Caelan Dorris, kicking the ball out of Reuben Moore, but it's hands the rack, which is a clear, by the law, it was a clear penalty and probably yellow card. Oh, the ball got kicked out of your hands. Yeah. I've never had to do any other team. You've taken Harley now mate. It's dark arts. You know what I mean? And I thought he shouldn't have got paid for it. And he was asked multiple times in that same rack, not to go near the ball, not to kick the ball. And then he does it. And it's given us a scram to Leinster, which I think they go and score from. And, but that gets pointed out on Twitter. And even Andy Goode, right, who I had to agree with this morning. I felt sick and had to wash myself. And, but Leinster, Leinster fans, they're just the softest as ever. And they're like, oh yes, this never happens to any other team. They're all tweeters and have like gold barbs. The thing is, is you can look at all four games over the season, over the weekend, right? And, What about your wins though, Lee? No, we talked about how, so Hugh said a couple of weeks ago about, you know, it's set in a referee's mind. Yeah. So, Leinster's first try against you was forward pass. There was a try against us, where like two or three phases before, there was a forward pass. There was one of the tries against you, Harley, was, there was a knock on. It looked like a knock on and a rock before. So, you know, a couple of phases before. And I can pretty much guarantee Jamie, there would have been something in your game as well, where, you know, it was a 50-50 decision. And referees aren't even stopping to go, oh, hang on, was that forward? You know, but the one in the Scarletts game, he passes the ball one side of the 15. You can't even see the 15, sorry, the 10-yard line. You can't even see the 10-yard line in the screen when he passes it. And the guy catches it over the 50, the 10-yard line while he was on the 15. So, you know, it's a good four or five meters forward and fairly obvious because there's a line on the pitch. And it's just not given. On yours, he was inside the 22 and he passed it from inside the 22 to outside the 22. You know, there's a fucking white line on the pitch ref. And it shows you, you know, it's not about was it, well, was his hands moving backwards and all of this kind of stuff. He was inside the 22 when he'd left the ball. He was outside the 22 when he caught the ball. You know, the, whichever way you look at it, that's a forward pass. So, best teams get away with it though, don't they? That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. The drivers can't get away with shit like that. They wouldn't be smart enough to do it either. But they would not get away with it. But your Lancers and your top teams in the league, they get away with it every time. Every time. Is this like when Nicky Smith scrummed a bit, like, not straight and then he had a meltdown? Is that like that? Nicky Smith doesn't know how to go straight, mate. Right, let's move on to previews for this weekend. Oh, absolutely. Oh, new signing alert. No, what now? No, what now? Cardiff has an alert. Cardiff has an alert. Cardiff has an alert. Cardiff has an alert. You want Stephens from Newcastle Falcon 2. I want the absolute absolute. Yeah. So you go there from Newcastle. Yeah. Throw his lid out. You want Stephens. That's my initial thoughts. I was just more on Cardiff Central Podcast as we're on previews now. Are they quick reaction to that? Stop reaction to that news? You need to throw his lid out. Yeah, we know that. Steph Evans' level is shit. It is, isn't it? Good play of ice? Good acquisition? I'll be honest, because of TNT Sports policies on broadcasting games, I've seen fuck-all. You know what I'm doing. I can give you some stats, Samuel. You want Stephens? Welsh qualified former rugby league player who's been doing amazing work. Oh, mine, Lewis, can be my DM. In fact, both Stephens and Adam Radwan have been on fire despite the general lack of success. Shane Williams' vibes are all powerfully built, has created a turnover in 20% of the tackles he makes, goes incredibly well when given any space for kicks and works really well along with someone like Adam Radwan who can create holes. Do you know who that was from? Is that the Sam Larner? Sam Larner who created that thread for me. I told you he was a secret Cardiff fan. Let's move on to previews for this weekend. So we leave Osprey's Dragons till last place. We won't do it necessarily in order. So Sharks and Cardiff are we? Chance that they're going to be holding players back for cup finals, maybe? We said that when we played a week before the semi-finals. I hope so. Maybe they want to send them all off for a week to acclimatise to London again. And if that happens, then maybe we have a chance. But honestly, I don't see it. I don't know. So we've got one fit scrum half. We haven't even taken our ultra-emergency back-up scrum half and now it's Jenkins. He's stayed at home. I just foresee pain. The reason the audience is... My name on the thing is... I've named it the Shark Chum RSC because I feel like that's what's going to happen. I think we've found the title for this week's podcast, boys. I foresee pain. We'll do some really quick stuff and then we'll come back and do predictions in a minute. Why are we starting in reverse order? Because I like mixing things up. We're not doing it in reverse order because now we're going to do Zebra Scarlet and then we're going to do Osprey's Dragon and then we're going to do predictions. Some of us have got stuff in their head, man. Calm down. Yeah, but we'll read what's in your head. You don't want to know what's in my head, mate. It's like Martin is Miltman. Right, Zebra Scarlet. We've made life really difficult for ourselves on this one because we should have beaten the Sharks. We've got to take something out of this game. We have to take something out of this game. We've come hella high water. We've just got to come away with something. I'm all in favour of, yeah, that was a good performance. Let's have a better performance and keep improving and stuff. But me, we need to come away with a win. So I don't care how we do it. We just need a win on that one. So let's look at Osprey's Dragons because I'm going to enjoy this one because James is shitting himself about this. He probably is, Hans. He probably is. He is, mate. Trust me. He is. I was on our chat earlier in the area and Lee's in there. I'm going to kick him out of it eventually. You love Hans, don't you? Or I'll just make a new one so I can freely talk about the Scarlets. I said, why do I have a horrible feeling about Saturday? And even Jess didn't. She was like, it should be the end of the season. It's a throwback. We run in the future. I mean, the drag has no shit, but it just stings at the minute. I said, I am disappointed. I had a really bad meeting this morning. After I saw that Dave Flanagan quote saying I want to upset the Ospreys, I was like, right. But what's wrong with that? What do you expect him to say? He's not going to come out and go, well, the Ospreys do quite well, actually. If we do well, then that'd be nice. They need a bonus point against us. We'll just roll over and let them go. He wants to win. How dare Dave wants to win a game? Respect the bastard. It's a blind side of this. So, Jamie, what are you making of Dragons and Ospreys? Are you as confident with the Dragons as James is? Absolutely not. So, we'll read if I've only fit an available fly-off for this game, because Angus O'Brien lived off against the Stormers. Kai Evans is out because he broke a bone in the shin. So, as things stand, we want to go one fit fly-off. That's going to be, we'll read. Ryan Woodburn and Dan Lyddiart are on their way back, and they could be in contention for this game. It'd be great to see Ryan Woodburn back. I'm a big fan of his. Ben Carter will be available. He served his suspension. So that's a boost. Yeah, I can't see us. Well, we'll do predictions in a bit, but everyone knows how terrible our away record is in general. But we haven't won in Swansea since 2010, when Tolupe Faraday was man of the match, and Dave Flanagan was Osprey's fly-off. That's how long ago. Now, if they were going to move any game to Bridgend, but you know Osprey's moving games to Bridgend. Why couldn't they move this one? Because the last time we played Osprey in Bridgend, we beat them. So this is the game that should have been moved to Bridgend. Exactly. They got the wrong game. Anyway, they should have moved this one, not the Cardiff one, to Bridgend. Do you not want the extra motivation? The Dragons could win the Welsh Shield. It's within your grasp, Phil. I don't see it. Also, if you can at least deny him a bonus point, then at least give Cardiff a chance at it. Because we don't think anyone's over with. Don't be reliable. That's for famous, that's all I say. I am going to this game. I will be at the Solus.com stadium for this one, so I am looking forward to it. And I hope there's a good crowd there, because I know Osprey's have pushed this fixture really hard. They're doing family tickets for £50, which I think is really good value. And I'm sure you'll see Lance Bradley all over Twitter, pushing and promoting this game. What are you doing on Saturday? Why aren't you at Swansea for this one? And all that kind of stuff. So I hope to get that from you. They get a good crowd. But, yeah, it's a rush derby. Who knows what can happen? But it probably won't involve the Tigers winning, if I'm honest. Okey-cokey. Right, Harley, take us through predictions then. I haven't talked about the game yet. Oh, yeah, yeah. Sorry. Moving on. No wonder I was in a good bit. Go on then, bleaty boy. On you go. The last, like, all the games, Osprey's and Dragons at .com, have all been, like, massive traces. Like, they're always really good. Because they always get some reason. We always get the one in, like, May. Or, like, in May, where it's sunny. No one really cares. So, like, the last one, I'm pretty sure, was, like, 37, 18 or something. It was Alan Jones' last home game for the Ospreys. That was a good one. That was where Jack Walsh needed therapy. Then you had one before that, I believe, which was a Morgan Morris hat-trick in that one. So they're always good games, if you're not a Dragons fan. But they are really good family games. What I like about the Dragons is they don't... They're really shit at buying ticket allocations. They don't fit with each other. So, like, whenever the Scarlets come to town, they always sit in... Well, the majority of them sit in the West End, sort of at the top, near where the Ghost Choir used to sit. And then... But the Dragons, like, were all in front of me in the East End, in the bottom tier. They just all, like, spread themselves out across the... across the thing, and then they were dotted around the West End as well. So they are always a good laugh to come down. Hopefully the weather holds up, because I hit this game in the sun. It's just a good laugh. I am somewhat confident that we can take points off Dragons here. I do just want the win. I'd love a bonus point. I would just hit the win. I've resigned myself to say that we can't finish in the top eight. People are saying 50 points might be enough, depending on results in the weekend. I personally don't think it is, but... Look at the table. We're in 11th, right, and that looks quite bad. But the points... There's 15 points between us and Sharks. So if Sharks win both their next games with bonus points, it looks worse for the Ospreys. But even if we win one of those, we'll basically finish 11th. We're basically at the bottom of the table, and then Sharks top their own mini-table, because the gap has been so big all season. So I think it will be a good, entertaining game. There's a chance to throw the ball around a bit, say goodbye to some... We're hopefully going to get our leavers list this week. Mind you, last season's leavers list still hasn't been published. As you see, we didn't get one last weekend, did we? Still waiting to hear what the contract status of Michael Collins is. But I hope that apparently there is plans to do a leavers list. So we'll see. We will see. Okie dokie. Harley, let's do some predictions, mate. You can do whatever... Do you want to league up a bit first? Do what? Did you a solid? Yeah, I know, but Elag takes it seriously and stuff. So don't expect any of that shit from me. I'm sorry, you have done too many Scarlet's Boy ones, or draws, to hedge your bets, to say you don't take this seriously. You're just bad. Yeah, I also did Scarlet's Boy 45 one week as well. So, you know, let's keep it real. Yeah, but that was when you had an 8% data. Proper green ones, didn't we? Anyway, just quickly on the league table, so in terms of total points, basically, if you're closest prediction, you get 4, 3 for second, 2 for third, 1 for fourth. So thanks to Mark, Lee has closed the gap on James from 7 to 2 points, but is still in fourth place on 123. Then we've got James on 125. Big jump up to Jamie on 156. Jamie is only 13 points behind me, so could overtake me if he... Actually, no, I don't think he can, but, you know, you'll get very close. There's still a chance you can win. They are very mathematically pleasing, 169 points, which I like because it's 13 squared, and I'm a nerd. I knew it was the right decision to let Harley do this. Go on, Harley, you do your predictions first and give the rest of us a chance. I'm going to quickly go through mine. So I've got Zebra by 3, Ospreys by 8, and Sharks by 12. Lee, do you want to read yours or do you want to do yours? Yeah, I'll do mine because I like the sound of my own voice. So I've got... I've got Skylands by 8, Ospreys by 10, and Cardiff by 1. So they're mine. We're doomed for, like, many, many point loss now. All right, who's next? Go on, Jamie, you can go first. So it's Zebra, Scarlets, it's now on Friday. This is a game I would like both teams to lose to be quite honest with you, because this is going to have repercussions for the Dragons. No, it will, because if Zebra win, they leapfrog the Dragons, we're rock bottom then, and we might not recover from that. So, you know, and then on the other hand, if Scarlets win, where they sort of pulled away from us a little bit, and it looks unlikely then the Dragons could overtake them, and we land a bottom-less region again. So if it's a draw or both teams lose, that'd be great, but I am going to go for a Scarlets win. I think they'll win by 6 points. Who's the next game? Is it Cardiff? Ospreys, Dragons, but if you want to do the Cardiff game first, you can. Yeah. Yeah, it's a difficult one, isn't it? It's like you guys were saying, what team are they going to put out? The Sharks. Are they going to let the rest of us play? I think Cardiff would be fine. They are, but they have got injury issues, and they've taken their scrum off, as you said. Do you remember last season, when Cardiff played the Sharks last season? Away in South Africa. What was the scum? I can't remember. I could generally see it be the reverse this year. I'll tell you what is interesting, right? I'm not saying this to have a dig, but if Cardiff do lose this, there will be 11 consecutive defeats. That will equal their record, because I looked it up on Cardiff's website, so that the record for most consecutive defeats is 11. If they lose against the Sharks, that will equal their record. And then we lose on Judgment Day, so it will be a new record. See? Making records this season. Okay, I'm going to go Sharks by 6. I think they'll just about edge it, but like I said, it's difficult to know when. We don't know what kind of team Sharks are about. And then the Welsh Derby Saturday. Well, look. I do like the Ospreys, and I would like them to make the playoffs, but I would also like to beat them as well. I would like us to do the double over them as well. No, I would. Yeah, I can't see that. I think Ospreys would be too powerful for us. We've got to do what we haven't done pretty much all season. Put in an 80-minute performance, and like I said, our waveform is absolutely shocking. So for me, this is only going to be one winner year. I'm going to go Ospreys by 14. And those are my predictions. Okay, Sophie. Sorry, I just got a fantastic tweet about me. Which one is it? The Ospreys won't be playing out my back garden next season, or any season after that. I intend to focus on growing my rhubarb, weeding, tattooing, barbecuing. It really is all happening at my house. Oh, I've got me tears. Thank you, Bill. Right, Debra Scarlett. What was the injury like for Scarlett on the weekend? It was too close to kind of limp a little bit, but he said it was cramp and he is fit. Other than that... Do you expect Josefita, Craig and Lucy to be back? Yep. That changes things then, so that's Debra by three. Please tell me, what were you going to predict if they weren't back? It was Debra by eight. No, I'm going to go Scarlett by six as well. I think that this will be an awful game. I actually think it will be quite similar to Cardiff's draw out there earlier in the season, where you might do some fancy shit, Costolo might do some nice stuff, and then you'll just let in some stupid tries. It has that vibe all over it, I think. I'm not sure who he's trying to insult here, Arlie, me or you. Arlie was dreaming. We were lucky to get a draw. Cardiff scored some mad tries in that game, and then let in the softest under-40s, can't be asked, business decision vibes. That was a defence for a lot of this season. Then we go on to Sharks, this is Cardiff, I'm going to go Cardiff by 35. No, you said it, now it's doing it. Yeah, it's in there. I think this is... I think Sharks will rest. I'm going to say Sharks, I will say Sharks by about 12, but it will feel closer. Sharks by 12, Ospreys versus Dragons, I will go Ospreys by 7. I'll take that. I do like the Dragons, really. Because we're proper easy. Not like them stand-alone bastards. Let's quickly run down anything we've got coming up on the feed-a-pod this week. Jamie, have we got anything anywhere close to Brock Harris this week, mate? No, but we are hoping to speak to somebody from New Tredegar RFC, to have a chat about them, because they've been expelled from the leagues recently. So we will have a chat to them about their rebuild and the state of the community game in Wales, find out what the problems are in community rugby. So that would be interesting. And of course, we'll round up the latest news and preview our trip to Swansea. So, yeah, looking forward to that, mate. Am I on that pod this week? No, you're not. Please, sir! Please, sir! Can I be on your podcast this week? There'll be another time. I'm asking Dino to come on my pod. Jamie gets that. Harley, what have you got coming up on Cardiff Central this week, mate? I imagine a lot of swearing, and Carwyn has promised he has prepared a hell of a rant about God's kick of a goal. Which is why I didn't touch on it tonight. That would be excellent. Carwyn does do a good rant. When he goes off on one, he's proper, proper good. I know, I'm thinking about making it an official segment. Because there's always something he rants about. He doesn't wait for the BBC. He doesn't anymore. James, what have you got coming up on Osprey's IRA this week, mate? It'll be a good player, won't it? Yes. No, so, we're not planning on talking about the game much, if I'm honest. Convenient. Surprisingly. Please, sir! Instead, we're going to... Actually, it spawned out of mine and Jamie's Twitter interaction earlier about kits. We might go back and look at some Dragons, Ospreys games, and kits as well. Because both have had some... I think both are definitely the more flamboyant two. You two don't tend to stray far from your regular stuff. Me and Jamie... Osprey and Dragons... You two just end up copying each other and having the same kit. Perfection! Yeah, that is true, actually. You can't stop... You had that tequila sun-raised kit a couple of years ago. I liked it! I liked it! It kind of had a little bit of spice about it. All I'm saying is, nothing is more beautiful image than peak... peak... Nothing more than Joan of London. Yeah! Did you miss it? How did you miss it? I can't say that. That's shit. I ain't going to say something else. That's like Cardiff season. He's stuckered. I don't care. He was in the promos and he looked fantastic in that baby pink jersey with BMI baby across the front. Well, I did revel in the fact that Fino TFD had gone back to another team. Well, black and gold. Because he looked good in that black and gold kit the Ospreys off. Do you remember when Dragons had discount tyres as a sponsor and you looked like a dildo? It actually looked like you had a dildo on those shirts. Discount tyres, look at that. That was one of my favourites. My grandfather has quite bad eyesight, so when we had the BT sponsorship, he was just like, why have you got a discount ball as a sponsorship? He couldn't see my kit. I was like five metres away from him. I was like, BT, Dragon. Like, come on. Sort of. Alright. Yeah. So, on Scarlett, I've just had a message from the boys. Martin can't find the signal. Really? That doesn't surprise me. Fucking hell. He didn't jerky this week. So, as a taster, so, James, you get to, so I'm going to have to do this now. I was going to do it, like, on here. I'm going to do 1H, but now I'm going to have to do it on Scarlett's fever. So you get to choose this shit dad joke, okay? So, tell me when to stop. Stop. That was shit, James. Jamie, tell me when to stop. Oh, fucking hell. Boys, come on. Harley. Stop. There we go. Stop it. Right. So, shit dad joke. The worst bar I ever went to was called The Fiddle. It was a violin. Fucking hell. More of those on... Fucking shitted everything. That was absolutely horrible. Yeah, but look how many I've got to get through. I had it for Christmas. I thought you were bowing out, bowing out disgracefully of Scarlett's fever. I was, but then the boys have just gone, there's only two of us there, and neither of us want to present. There's loads of presenting though. I know. You know what he's like. I'm going to switch my camera off and have my tea while they're talking. That's what I'm going to do. Right. Boys, thank you very much. It was really easy tonight to be depressed and down about last weekend. It would have been really easy to sit there and slag us off, slag our themes off and all that kind of stuff. When we finish, I just want to remind people of some stuff. Obviously, I've been doing my psychology degree and all of this kind of stuff. I've studied a lot about sports people and sports mentality and things like this. There was a case of a guy somewhere in Australia. I can't remember if he was an Aussie rules player or a rugby union player or whatever. He was an Australian sportsman who took a lot of what was said about him to heart on social media and newspapers and this, that and the other. He kind of went down that dive, down and down and down and down. It ended up in the worst possible place that it could end up in. Even when it's shit, even when it's like, we all got pummeled this weekend, we all got taken to task. It's still just a game. It's still just 15 men running around in little boy shorts playing with balls for 80 minutes on a Saturday afternoon or whatever. Sometimes we just need to remember that fact that nobody's going out on that pitch on a Saturday afternoon or Friday night or whatever to play a shit game. They're going out and they're doing their best. When we are putting comments on social media or on pods like this or whatever, just remember that there is somebody at the other end of that comment because you do not want to be the person sitting there thinking, was that comment that I made on Twitter last week part of the reason why that guy has ended up where he's ended up? Thank you for tonight, gents, because it would have been really easy to get down and miserable and depressed and all that kind of stuff. We kept it going. Two weeks left, two games left. If you don't laugh, you'll cry. That's the thing. If you don't laugh, you'll cry. This is what Welsh rugby is going to be like, unfortunately. We've got to look on the bright side, haven't we? Absolutely. On that note, thank you very much for your time again, gents. It's been a pleasure, as always. I shall see you next week. We shall do the same thing once again. All the best. Tata. Tata. Thank you for listening to The Wrap Podcast. We hope you enjoyed listening as much as we enjoyed recording it. Please do rate us and tell your friends because it really helps us to grow and get better. We'll be back next week with more of the same. Until then, enjoy your rugby.