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The PhysioForce podcast explores musculoskeletal injury management through interviews with experienced clinicians. The podcast aims to bridge the gap between chiropractors and physiotherapists for the benefit of patients. Chiropractors feel that physiotherapists have limited hands-on time with patients and provide generic exercise sheets without tailoring them to the individual. However, there is evidence showing that combining manual therapy and exercise leads to better outcomes. Both chiropractors and physiotherapists believe they are better at their respective jobs. Chiropractors face stigma and feel defensive about their profession. The podcast highlights the knowledge and expertise of chiropractors compared to physiotherapists. Resume. Okay, so welcome to the PhysioForce podcast where we explore current evidence and musculoskeletal injury management by interviewing guests, hopefully providing you with some useful insight and pragmatic takeaways from your practice. In this wider series, we'll be interviewing accomplished clinicians who've had a variety of musculoskeletal injuries to tap into the combination of their patient and physio experiences, hopefully providing you with practical learning opportunities. Today, we have an experienced chiropractor from Romsey, Kyron, Harman Morgan, who's here to help us, educate us on the work that chiropractors do, and to help get us bridged the gap between the two commissions and the two types of professions, which can only really help benefit patients in the long run. So, Harman, thank you for coming on. Can you introduce yourself to the crowd? Audience. Oh, no audience. I'm Harman, and I have been graduating for six years from the AECC down in Bournemouth, and now working in Romsey with private patients. Excellent. So, to start off with, do you have a few things that you feel that physios think that chiropractors do? Do you have an interpretation of what we think chiropractors do from your end? I'm not sure what physios disagree with chiropractors, although I do know what chiropractors disagree with physios. What's that? It's very hands-off. If it's from the NHS module, very limited hands-on time with the patient, very broad, vague examinations, and sort of just exercise sheets being passed over the generic kind of areas of the body. Oh, you've got back pain. There's your lower back exercises. There's no sort of real tailoring to the patient. I think that is a point of contention. I used to have that as a sports therapist. I knew that very strongly and held on to that until working with physios and then training with a physio, realising that it's not the clinicians necessarily. Unfortunately, it's the time constraints. It still doesn't help the output, because the end result means that patients walk away feeling a bit frustrated. There is some evidence which is starting to rebuild the connection between manual therapy and physiotherapy, and the paper will be shown in one of the corners here. The link is in the description. A paper by XYZ, Joe Bloggs, recently published to show that there's a stronger link, actually, between better outcomes when you combine manual therapy and exercise. In terms of the beef that has long been held between the two questions, is that there from the Kairos as well, or do you think it's a one-way street? There's probably beef from Kairos. I think we both think we're better at one job than another. I have to say, jumping in there, when I first met all your Kairo friends going to a wedding in Sweden, the first thing they did was throw abuse at me. I'm sure that was very well-intended, lots of tongue-in-cheek, but that was definitely thrown the other way. I think Kairos get a lot of stick in the mainstream medical system, where a lot of professionals are horrified if you say, oh, I saw my chiropractor, and they're like, oh no, don't do that, don't go back, or you shouldn't do that. A lot of it's just stigma about not knowing. If you get an osteopath, for some reason, people are more likely to go, oh yeah, go see an osteopath. They deem it more regulated. I feel like there's a lot of stigma about us, and we get quite defensive when we know what we do. We have quite a lot of medical training as well. That's the difference here from the reason that the inspiration for this podcast was the fact that we've been going on for a few years now. Half a decade. Half a decade. Half a decade, yeah, that's about right. Seeing and hearing you talk about your work makes me realize that you're ahead of physios in a long way. That's obviously speaking about my knowledge, which is not massive. There are plenty of smarter physios out there, but learning from Carmen and her knowledge makes me realize that physios are definitely off the mark when it comes to thinking they know more, especially the first case initial assessment environments where your knowledge of medical and red flag stuff is actually very sharp. Before the camera dies, we're going to finish there. I think that was actually quite a good little chat. Stop the red beeping. Oh, the red light's gone off.