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The speaker discusses their background in theater, including their involvement in community theater and writing music. They are currently studying songwriting and theater at Belmont University in Nashville. They have primarily participated in musicals and have a production company called Moon Piper Productions. They talk about their favorite roles and their process for memorizing lines. They also discuss their musical "Lorene's Reverie" and their dream of creating immersive concert experiences. The speaker mentions their interest in exploring more serious roles in the future. Yeah, it's nice to connect finally. I know. It's been a while. Yeah. Okay. So, yeah, so my plan is just to, I'm recording this now, but I'll edit it, is just to talk to you about what you're doing now. I think you're at, what university are you at again? Is it Belmont? Belmont University in Nashville. Okay. Cool, cool. So tell me a little bit about your background with theater and, you know, like what got you into it to this point? Well, I was in my first show at age five with Stage Rite Performing Arts and I got into that because of my sister and it was the same year it started. So we were both founding members of the program. And then I also participated in lots of community theater, such as Theater in the Park or Leawood Stage Company and any school shows that were available and I got into writing music at age eight for a PTA reflection competition through my elementary school. And I've been writing music ever since. So now I, as I said, go to Belmont University in Nashville and I'm majoring in songwriting with a minor in theater. That's really interesting. Yeah. Yeah, that's how I, I guess, got to where I am today with music. That's wonderful. And so with your stage writing, I've seen you've done a lot of things locally, like you just said, but are you more into musicals or even just plays themselves? I have done a few plays, but I've primarily done musicals and I've been doing musical theater for pretty much as long as I can remember as any opportunity I can. So every summer I would do Stage Rite and then when they expanded to throughout the school year, I would do shows throughout the school year and then also whenever my school show was in middle school and then high school, pretty much any chance that I could get to perform and sing. That's really cool. And so, you know, I'm one of those people that I have Stage Rite. Do you, for you, do you get used to it after so many repetitions or plays, or I'm sorry, musicals? Does that like go away eventually, you get so used to it? I think it's always, you know, nerve wracking, especially the first time you get on stage at any show. And then after maybe a song or two, you kind of get used to it and get more comfortable with it. But I feel like the kind of nervous factor of the very first time you're on stage never quite goes away, even with, you know, however many musicals or shows you do. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. So we have a gentleman who named Michael Hoag. He has an arts magazine show. He interviews people who do musicals and plays every week here in the Kansas City area. And we have, you know, we have so many, as you know, theaters throughout the metro, Casey Rep Theater, you know, I can't even name them all. But we have so many. And we really have a good community here, I feel like, for pretty much anything that people want to see theater related, you know. So are you doing a lot of things in Nashville because you're in Nashville? Or do you have some connections here in Kansas City that you, with your production company, are looking to do down the line? Well, the production company that I recently started is called Moon Piper Productions. And the mission is to connect people through original musicals and immersive concert experiences. So the first thing that Moon Piper Productions is doing is in Kansas City next summer, or this summer, putting on my original musical called Lorene's Reverie. And eventually, I would love to do immersive concert experiences in Nashville or anywhere that I can, and expanding that in the future. So I would love to do that with theater as well as, you know, concerts. That sounds really cool. Yeah, that's really interesting that you got started on that. So is Belmont University, are they, is there one of their specialties or programs theater? Would you say that's like one of the better ones? Is that why you selected that university? I, Belmont, besides the amazing location, just Nashville is such a hub for creatives of everything. That is one of the most important things about Belmont is the community in the city as well. And they really try to, you know, give you the connections as a college student to people in the music industry. And Belmont, one of their biggest majors is actually music business. And I'm in the Mike Kerb College of Entertainment and Music Business. So that's where the songwriting program is. And then my theater minor is actually in a different school, the different school section. But I think Belmont has so much to offer with music and just knowledge about the industry and learning how it works and how to navigate it as both being an artist, being in a business side of things with my company, and then also the theater side of things. I think it has a hub for all three. So it's a unique location to be. That's really cool. I've never actually been in Nashville, but I've heard great things about it. Yeah, that's, it sounds like you're in the right place for that. So do you have you gotten involved a lot with Kansas City? Well, I guess, you know, you're from Kansas City. But have you gotten involved with a lot of like production behind the scenes in Kansas City before Belmont? Yeah, so I started on a director's track with Stage Rite when I was in middle school. And I started, you know, working with smaller things behind the scenes like props and eventually moved to assistant choreography, assistant music direction. Then I switched to assistant director. And then this past summer, I directed their elementary school version of The Little Mermaid. So that was a super big step for me and working on behind the scenes. And then I also directed the condensed version of my musical Reverie at my high school at Shiny Mission East this past April. So it's been really cool to be on both sides of it and experience working with actors and using my knowledge as an actor to help other people. That's really cool. So I have to ask, what has been your favorite role so far in your career? Oh my goodness, that's such a hard question. I have a hard time picking because I always love playing the character roles, but I do have some dream shows. So maybe some of my most recent roles that I really enjoyed, especially because I got to do them at the same kind of time frame, was I was Good Word at my high school's production SpongeBob. Oh yeah. And at the same time, I was Roxy in Chicago with Stage Rite. So that was a very unique experience of getting to play those completely opposite characters and have rehearsals back to back. So I loved doing that. That was one of my favorites, for sure. So another thing, at least for me and my experiences, which is not very much, but memorizing, what is your secret to memorizing lines would you have for anybody who's wanting to get into acting or even production? Helping others figure out how to remember their lines and make it so natural, do you know what I'm saying, of a process? I would say sometimes a lot of the scenes, you can kind of logically, if you're in the headspace of your character, think about what your character would say next. And usually it kind of makes sense, but sometimes that's a hard method to do. So I think it depends on your learning style, but I am an auditory learner personally. So hearing the rhythm of words back to back with other sounds, it's very easy for me to memorize the pattern of the sound of the words. So good ways for that style would be I record myself, I do this with songs too, but lines and songs, I'd record myself speaking it and how I would say it as the character and then just play it back either before I go to sleep or while I'm getting ready in the morning to kind of just get that repetition in my subconscious. And then also having someone to read lines with me really helps. So either my mom or dad or someone will go through my lines with me. And one of the things that's difficult is the cue lines, because sometimes it's very easy to get your own lines down, but then figuring out where they all go is a whole separate challenge. That makes sense. How long did it take you to establish your production company? Was this in the works for a while? I started it two months ago, but I'd been kind of figuring out the direction that I wanted to take my musical for a while. So I started writing it in around 2020 when I, in the pandemic lockdown, I became interested in the diaries of my great grandmother, Laureen, and began this whole process of writing a musical about her life from age 10 in 1917 to her death in 1979. And eventually the company didn't come along until I was figuring out what I wanted to do for the next step for the musical. I had originally used an independent study at my high school to put it on, but I thought, you know, this show has a new destiny and there's so many things that I still dream to do about the next production of the show. And the company just kind of made sense for it to be producing the show. But I always had this dream of these immersive concert experiences, and I've dreamt about that for years. Yeah, as long as, as long as I can remember, I thought that would be such a cool concept to have different themes and experiences and mixing music with other media. So that's been a long-term dream of mine. That's a really cool dream, honoring people like that. That's really awesome. I think that's really inspirational, too. But my next question is, what type of role or genre have you not explored, but you want to? Hmm. That's interesting. I, I've definitely fallen more recently into myself as an actor. I usually end up in a semi-comedic role in a lot of shows, but I do think it'd be fun to experiment with more serious roles as well. I had the chance to be Svetlana in Chess, which was definitely a very different role for me, especially, you know, a Russian accent and a show about the Cold War, it was a very different experience. So I think it's interesting to kind of dapple in all sorts of theater styles. And I part, well, with my musical, it takes place in such a wide range of time periods that I've had the opportunity, oh, sorry, that's our cuckoo clock going off, but I've had the opportunity to sing and write in different styles from all different time periods, including like the 20s, and that's been definitely different, but fun to experiment with writing more jazzy styles for that period of the show. But yeah, I think it's fun to experiment with all different kinds of characters and writing for different voice styles besides my own, which has been very interesting with when I was putting on the last version, I was still finishing up some of the songs with the people that I had cast, so I could kind of cater it towards their voices a little bit. So it was cool to experiment with having certain people that I, oh, I know your voice, flatters this kind of music and then write a song for someone specifically for their voice type and specific character. So that was really interesting. It sounds like that is really interesting. It also is interesting, you seem to appreciate history. You mentioned the Cold War and your, I'm sorry, your grandmother, right? My great-grandmother. Great-grandmother. So it sounds like you appreciate history. What are some roles that you want to do in terms of history, whether it's world history, U.S. history? Do you have any in mind? Or maybe you haven't thought too much about that yet? Hmm, that's interesting. I definitely, the first thing that comes to mind is actually a role that I did back in middle school, but was what kind of brought me into my love of the 20s and flappers and everything was when I was in Thoroughly Modern Millie and was Millie in that, and I also have loved tap for a long time. So any role that I can find to tap in is amazing. So that really kind of brought out my love of that time period and the fashion and kind of the new age woman, and I really like that idea of that revolutionary time period for women. So that's what drew me into that in the first place, but I'll have to look into more shows about historic pieces because that would be a really interesting thing to be in more in the future. That's really cool. This is somewhat of a side note, but have you ever seen the Queen's Gambit? Yes, I love the Queen's Gambit and I also love chess. Yeah. So chess is, yes, it's one of my favorite games. So that's so funny that you bring that up, but I love that show. It's great. So I'm more into like film, getting into that as well as with my journalism. And I really like the filming, the scene aspect to each, well just the scenes they do in that series. It's really well done. Yeah. Yeah. It's very well filmed. But yeah, that's really interesting. My next question is, have you ever improvised a scene and if so, how did it turn out? Oh my goodness. I have so many funny theater stories about times that I've had to improvise things, but one of them that comes to mind, I was in the show Honk and I was playing my first villain role as the cat and the cat is trying to eat the ugly duckling. And so as I, there's supposed to be some like kids that call off off stage something that distracts me from, I have like a little fake cleaver in my hand that I'm like about to eat the duck with and the kids are supposed to distract me so that doesn't happen, but they missed their cue. So I had to kind of figure out in the split of a moment like, oh, that would really change the whole story if they weren't there to distract me. So I kind of fake missed his head and did a little fake swing and pretended like I missed rather than getting distracted. But yeah, there's all sorts of fun things and I think in one version of Into the Woods, I was playing Cinderella and I was, the prince comes on and I'm supposed to run away and my heel of my shoe got caught in a hole in my lace dress. And so I had a very hard time getting off stage and I ended up just on the ground like hopping and left off the side of the stage to escape from the prince because I couldn't run in the same way. So there's lots of fun backstage things that you don't think of, especially with my Squidward costume. I could not sit down. It was very cool. There was, you know, two legs on the back, kind of like the Broadway version and my feet were connected to another set of feet at the heels that I'd tap with and such. But yeah, I definitely could not sit down. So when I wanted to greet the audience at the end of the show, my friend who made the costume had to carry me downstairs so I could say hi to people. But yeah, there's so many experiences with theater just kind of keeping you on your toes and I think it's a good life skill to have just to be able to improvise and do, you know, think of solutions in every sort of situation that you wouldn't expect. And that's a really interesting point that you made because my next question was, what is the, you know, from not just like acting, but as a production behind the scenes, as a, you know, a musical is going on, what are some of the most challenging technical aspects backstage, would you say? I would say, I mean, most of my roles have been working more with the cast rather than like sets and lighting and all of those things. And I think that definitely has a lot of technical challenges with just even, you know, figuring out the vision and making it cohesive. And I think it's important to meet with everyone on your team before and discuss your plan for the overall vibe of the show. And with Little Mermaid in particular, I, before even starting with rehearsals with the cast, we went through with the lighting, with the scenic and decided, you know, do we want it to be more of a cartoonish aspect or more of a realism vibe or what kind of style? And every show has a different style. And whether you want to portray it close to the original or do something completely different, I think there's lots of different kinds of theater. So it's important to be solid in that before even working with the cast. So I think there's a lot that goes into it with that aspect. With working with people, I think a lot of it is just the respect and the effort. And if people know that you're putting in the time and they'll value that time with themselves too and hopefully give you the same respect as a director or whatever role anyone is on the team. But I think as long as people realize that it's a team effort and theater is always a community and team effort, then the show goes a lot smoother and people put in the time and effort because they want it to be just as good as you do. And I think as long as you have that mutual respect for each other, it helps the whole process a lot. So. Yeah, that makes sense. It's almost like, would you say it's almost like a family in a sense? Yeah, I think so. There has to be that chemistry. There has to be also, like you said, maybe more intimate effort and heart into what goes on throughout a production. Yeah, especially, I mean, theater and acting is a very personal thing, even singing as well. Part of who you are and I feel like a lot of actors pull from personal experiences into roles that helps it seem more realistic, but that's a very sensitive thing to be dealing with. People's real, like it's not a story necessarily anymore, it's pulled from real emotion in people's lives. So it's important to be dealing with that delicately and from a respectful way because it's an important thing. I think it also connects, the audience can feel that same emotion and that's why it's so powerful in the first place is because when the actors are using that emotion, it's real, it's not truly an act, you know? That makes sense. So what character that you've played to date, and this is probably, you've done so much it sounds like, but what character or characters do you relate to the most and why? I think I relate to lots of different aspects of characters and in a weird way, I feel like all of the characters I've played kind of remain a part of me a little bit. I think one of my favorite characters that I really just truly loved and would see myself being when I'm older is Tanya from Mamma Mia and I truly just loved the female friendship but her glam self and the way that she portrays herself is how I want to be when I'm that age so I think I really relate to her and her funk and yeah, she's a very charismatic character so I had a lot of fun playing Tanya but I think a lot of the characters I've played kind of stick with me and different aspects of their personality I'm sure come out on accident around my family all the time. That's awesome, that's really funny. And so I assume you've been to New York and you've been to a Broadway or Broadway musicals? Yeah. I've been a few, they're obviously really incredible but there's just so many. What has been the most physically demanding role you've taken on? Ooh, challenging. I would say physically demanding, maybe Tanya in a weird way because of the singing, her whole song is a full dance number as well and I also had mono at the time, which probably made it a little more physically demanding but yeah, singing with that intense dancing and was a lot with mono so that one was probably quite a bit. I would say Squidward was a little similar to that in the dancing with the costume and legs and everything was definitely a challenge and maintaining the different voice the whole show was also pretty challenging. But I think every character has its own challenges to it, especially characters that have a ton of stage time when you don't really get a huge break to relax and drink water. I think Roxy was on in Chicago almost every number and scene and it was the changes between costumes are very demanding to make sure that you don't miss your next cue and obviously bigger parts can be more demanding but I think every, even, I don't know, you get kind of an adrenaline from every character from going on and performing even when it is challenging, it's very fun. And so I wonder, you know people say it's really hard to, I mean it's challenging to play an instrument and sing, would that be applied to the same, in the same way to dancing and singing because you just mentioned like being on cue with dancing and singing, would that be the same, would you apply that same like challenge? I do think that there are similarities between those with kind of the rhythm of like if you're playing guitar or something and you're singing at the same time, there's different rhythms and notes that are going up at the same time, kind of like if you're tap dancing, you have different rhythms with your feet and I consider tap dancing kind of like an instrument with the, it's just a very, it's almost like playing the drums with your feet, so that's kind of a similar thing of especially singing and doing rhythms at the same time, it's kind of maybe a similar thing as instruments, yeah I never quite thought of it that way but that's really interesting. Yeah, I was just thinking that, that it's just so wonderful that people can do all that and it's really important I think to have that ability of course, but what is one of the most pivotal moments in your young career so far when you figured out that acting, well that didn't make sense, I'm sorry, what is one of the most, what got you, what spoke to you about this in terms of a career or a pursuit? I don't think I've really asked it that way but yeah, but what really got you into what you were wanting to do? I think I've always kind of been in between of oh should I be writing for theater and pop and kind of Indian mix of genres or should I be performing and should I be directing because I've always had these different passions and I wasn't sure how they were going to line up in the end and I think it all started to make sense when I started writing my musical and realized that I could both incorporate you know, my love of music, history, writing, directing, producing all into one big piece of art and that was definitely the defining moment for me when I realized that if they don't have a set career for you, you can make your own and figure out what exactly you want to do and combine anything you want. So when I started it was an independent study at my school and then ended up directing the show, playing my great grandmother in the show, producing the backing tracks and pretty much putting together the whole thing. Obviously I had a lot of help from my peers and my family and it was definitely a team effort to get it up and going but I think that was probably the most defining experience of my theater and artist career so far. So I hope to see where that can go and I'll just tell you a little bit more about the show while I'm at it but my great grandmother was a pianist and a writer and storyteller. She had dreams as big as the stars in her eyes so it was really fascinating to read her diaries and uncover the story of just an ordinary woman in 20th century America. So I feel like women's stories are often not heard from that time period so I found a first account of a treasure trove of documents describing her life that was filled with ambitions and friendship, compromises, heartbreak, loss and magic. So I was really inspired by her diaries to reimagine her life as a musical. So she was, despite being confined to a wheelchair and she faced many challenges, I think she's an example that it's the journey that makes someone's life a fairy tale and not the halfway ever after ending that's the important part. So I spent two years writing the script, music and lyrics and doing the backing track so I'm really grateful for that accomplishment and I'm excited to see the new destiny of the show which is now renamed Laurene's Reverie and I hope that anyone who saw Reverie in the first edition will see the new Laurene's Reverie and experience new script revisions and songs and the addition of aerial performing art which is one of the biggest changes so it's set half in reality and half in fantasy so those fantasy scenes will now have aerial silks and lira and all sorts of apparatus. So yeah. That sounds exciting. So I've seen you done some aerial performances as well. Could you tell me a little bit more about that? Yeah. So I started aerial silks in elementary school with Kansas City Aerial Arts and there was obviously different breaks with COVID and the studios shutting down so I came back and started a new apparatus called lira. It's like a metal hoop that hangs from the ceiling and spins so I kind of got re-into it and was in their training company and did a few shows with them and yeah I'll be interested to try and incorporate aerial into musical theater and seeing how those can combine in the future. That sounds really cool. It sounds like that is a you're really building a very versatile career when it comes to acting like you do performance you do all different types of performances. Thank you. Yeah that's really cool. Do you have any rituals or superstitions that you follow before any performance? Well I think I am kind of picky about what exactly I will eat before a performance specifically with like I know there's the whole thing about dairy where it can kind of like coat your vocal cords and of course I think you have to have it like right before and people sometimes take it further than it probably is but I definitely am careful about if I have not having ice cream or like milk or anything before a show and kind of staying off from like some desserts and stuff till afterwards. I feel like I do like a good celebratory ice cream or something after a show that's the best so yeah I kind of try to stay away from something that's going to like coat my throat weird when I'm singing or anything like that so yeah but I think it's also important the show must go on even if you're sick or have you know mono in some cases so I think for Chicago for instance I had a whole bag of cough drops just back there that in between the scenes I was sick at the time and just run back put a cough drop in and then like take it out right before I went on just to try and conserve my voice but yeah there's lots of vocal care that goes into it and I mean theater is a whole body you know experience so stretching before dancing and all that helps a lot too. So speaking of vocal do you have have you had or do you still have a voice coach? Do you ever have that sort of experience with somebody teaching you or training you? Yeah so I've had several vocal coaches throughout the years and I was most recently working with Donna West and Melinda McDonald so they're both fabulous vocal teachers and I'm not working with them currently because of college and everything but they I worked with both them for years and absolutely loved learning from them and their different expertise. Yeah that's that's really cool there's a lot of people well actors in Hollywood or around the globe that have voice coaches that teach them how to like for example this is kind of off subject but Harry Potter some of the characters that like Rupert Grint he's played several American roles and they teach them I guess I don't know much about this but they teach them how to talk a certain way and cover up their English accent it's really actually remarkable hearing that. Yeah I had I had some experience with that at my vocal lessons too for different roles specifically the I've played two kind of Russian accent roles that were difficult so that's that was a learning curve for me and there I think one of my teachers had this book where it would say kind of like different spellings of things to teach you how to pronounce them in different accents it's very interesting yeah there's I mean there's all sorts of methods but I mean YouTube works too I've definitely looked up some videos of how to do different accents for Squidward that one I had never actually seen Spongebob so I had to do a lot of research of how to talk like Squidward for that. That's funny that's really cool so in what way would you like to contribute to the development of your characters beyond the script I don't know if that's a. Sorry what did you say cut out for one second. In one in what way would you like to contribute to the development of your characters beyond the script I don't know if that's. Oh that's that's a great question so I I can't remember who originally showed me this method but sometimes they don't give you a whole you know backstory for every single character in the show and I think no matter what character you are you can always expand on your character's backstory and kind of make their motivations more clear so I started doing this like back in elementary school for some characters so I'd write kind of their whole backstory of their life and how what made them who they are today and I started out with the villain character the cat I was talking about or I was like oh why is she you know this villainous cat and how did that come to be but I think it can work for any character even if the script doesn't provide you with all of the information doesn't mean you can't create more motivation and nuance to a character and I think that all characters can be nuanced and have a lot of depth to them just like humans do so I think capturing the different sides of every character is important and bringing you know everyone has different personality interpretations of the character so you know my interpretation would be different from yours of any character so that's also an interesting way to incorporate little bits of yourself into a character that makes sense and that kind of you know it makes me ask how did you find the right balance between your interpretation of a character in the scripted material I feel like I always use the script as the base and the foundation for who the character is and I try to do as much justice to how it was intended by the creator so that's always where I start with it and obviously I add a little bit of my own flair but I think that's kind of the extra addition as long as you're staying true to the character and how it is that's the most important thing in my opinion that makes sense yeah that's that's it's I wonder how somebody for example like you how do you after having played a character of a certain like say Squidward or anything else or anybody else how do you leave that character behind after production or how how do you how do you mentally how do you what's the word how do you feel after a production is there some nostalgia or do you feel like hey you know this happened this was great how can I build off this experience this particular character for the next one I do think specifically Squidward has definitely stuck around with the with the voice you know I can channel my inner Squidward sometimes just whenever at home I'm doing something but I think it's kind of a mix of happy and nostalgia of characters and saying goodbye to roles but I do think there's always you know there's always another show another chance to try something new so I'm never truly like too sad about leaving behind a character because I know there'll always be another chance to try something else but I think kind of like I was saying earlier they always stick around and I think different parts of them I learn lessons from each one about life and just their outlook on life it's almost like living little lives in each show so I think it's a cool kind of unique experience to jump into somebody else's world and perspective for a while and see how they experience theater and their show so yeah I think it's it's an interesting perspective on lessons through theater that's a really that's a really good point um one of the things that or performances uh that I'm uh that's really well known um is Footloose have you ever done Footloose I actually just was Rusty in Footloose this summer oh cool and how was that role it was a blast it was very fun especially before leaving it was right before I left for Nashville and um I felt like I was really you know getting into my country there with my boots and let's hear it for the boy it was it was kind of a great kickoff to heading to Nashville for school so I I had a great time with that show and a lot of fun with just the characterization of Rusty yeah that's a that's a was that so when you did Footloose was that before you went to Nashville was that by just by chance or was that something that you really wanted to do before going um to the south that happened to be Stage Rite's summer show so I I had done their shows every single summer and was planning on doing it no matter what it was so it just kind of happened to be that that was the show so I think it's pretty cool that it turned out to be like that that's really really cool um well I think that's pretty much it on my end um that I could think of right now um I really appreciate you taking the time to do this um of course yeah thank you so much for having me on here yeah no yeah no problem um and just tell you know when they hear this on our website um let tell us about the production this summer you you've been talking about just the time what it is the times and the dates and everything well I don't have for sure the exact dates or venue of the show yet but I'm hoping to get that info super soon but I'm planning on having it in late July this summer of 2024 so if people want to stay tuned on more info about that they can follow along on Instagram at Moon Piper Productions or we also have a website now which is just www.moonpiperproductions.com and I'll be posting more info about the show and when it will be where very shortly wonderful um that sounds like a plan um I really appreciate again you uh taking the time to do this um and I wish you good luck on your endeavors um and uh it sounds like you're going to start your second semester coming up next year yes um well real quick actually on that note um what what kind of things are you looking forward to in the new year at um Belmont when it comes to production anything in the works for you or classes you're excited about yeah so I am starting up next semester with audio engineering and a songwriting one class and then I am starting on some of my theater minor classes so um fundamentals of production and design and there's a lab course for theater so I'm really excited for this next semester to get more into my major and minor and see what else this semester has to hold for me and then I'm also in a all girls acapella group called Intonations so we're competing in ICCAs this next semester so that will be particularly exciting our quarterfinals and Knoxville and I've never competed for acapella before so I'm very excited for that yeah that should be a fun semester yeah yeah that sounds fun um well again like I appreciate your time and um I hope to hear from you soon and uh just hit me up you know whenever and I'll also let you know when this is up it'll probably be a week or two but um but yeah I'm excited I really appreciate this I know we've been playing on this for a while but I just again thank you so so much uh I appreciate yeah of course yeah yeah um well thank you for thinking of me yeah yeah no problem well uh you have a good day and I'll talk to you soon you too bye-bye bye