Under the Sea...

Amy and Rachel are two millennials who share a love for the creepy and true crime. They discuss their topic of the week, which is "Under the Sea." They also share a recipe for an ocean water cocktail. They talk about the limited exploration of the ocean and the vast amount of species yet to be discovered. They also mention some interesting facts about the ocean, such as the deepest part being 36,200 feet deep and the existence of colossal squids. Amy discusses the Bermuda Triangle and its mysterious disappearances of ships and airplanes. Hello, I'm Amy and I'm Rachel, we're just two millenials who share a passion for the creepy and the spooky, harbor a true love for true crime, and share our favorite spirits. So sit back, have a cocktail, with two creepy ghouls. Excellent Amy. Thank you, thank you. So what is our topic this week, Rachel? Under the sea. I think you mean, under the sea, I can't do it, take it from me. But more importantly, we each have a topic for under the sea this week, but since we're going with a sea faring theme, what is our drink? Ocean water cocktail. Is it salty? It could be. Ooh, a salt and sugary rim, oh my god, that just gave, mind blown, you could totally add that to this drink. So I know you guys are probably getting a little tired of me and my use for blue carousel, but that's one of the ingredients for this week, and it's a needed ingredient. So the ocean water cocktail is going to be two ounces, or a fourth a cup of coconut water. Pineapple juice, either use two ounces, or a fourth a cup of that, and then blue carousel, either use two ounces, or a fourth a cup, and then use one ounce, or two tablespoons of your coconut rum. So we've got coconut water, pineapple juice, blue carousel, coconut rum, put that in a cup over ice, and give it a good stir, and then for decoration, like I said, you could do the salt and sugar rim, and add in some Swedish fish. Oh, I love that, that's a great idea, fish in your ocean water, so I was just like chowing down, eating my Swedish fish, drinking this drink, and I was like, that's so lovely, and you can see my shareable bag on the kitchen table, if we want to chow into that, but yeah. So yeah, you have a cute little drink for our lovely little topic, and it looks like ocean water, it's sweet, it goes with the summer, it goes with the steam, and it's just adorable and delicious, so I love that, that's amazing, I can't wait to try it, I can't wait to post a pic of it to our Instagram, which by the way, I'm going to just plug our Instagram pages now, because we do have an Instagram that we would love for everybody to follow who is a fan of our podcast, we will have updates for our new topics that we're getting, and of course our drink recipes, and our handle is Two Creepy Ghouls, so please, give us a follow, check it out, give us a like, see for our updates, because that's what we're using, that is our social media, that's basically our social media, yeah, so yeah, there we go, great to come there, but let's get into our topic of, first, let's see, do you want to start us off, or do you want me to? Well, I was going to start off with a little, about what we have and haven't explored yet, if you don't mind, oh no, probably, yeah, absolutely, and I have some facts to add, so great, start us off, please, so I'm pretty sure we all know that the ocean makes up like three-quarters of the earth, but technically, I guess it's 71%, so oceans make up 71% of the earth's surface, but only about 5% has been explored, that's terrifying in itself, yep, so about over 80% of the world's ocean is not yet mapped or observed, exploration difficulties include cost, technology limitations, high pressure, and cold temperatures in the deep sea, as we probably learned, Titanic, yeah, so considered also just the size of the ocean, its surface area is about 139 square, 139 million square miles, and its average, average depth is 12,080 feet, I'm picturing a dark pit, throughout these depths, yeah, it is, throughout these depths, there is life, seafloor mapping provides a sense of what may lie beneath, and guides decisions about where to explore, like deployed submersibles, or remotely operated vehicles, which, if I say ROV later, that's a remotely operated vehicle, gotcha, yeah, while the entire seafloor has been mapped using data collected from satellites, these data provide only a general picture of what's there, details limited on these maps, because it neglects some important geographical features, like seamounts, and objects like shipwrecks remain unseen, because it's like just a rover, basically, I'm not quite, I think it's more like sonar, is how they get the bottom, so they're not really getting everything, and it says about, as of 2023, 24.9 percent of global seafloor has been mapped with modern high-resolution technology, oh yeah, multi-beam sonar system, usually mounted to ships that can reveal the seafloor in greater detail, while almost 50 percent of the seafloor beneath the U.S. waters has been mapped, so not even all of like our waters have been mapped, I forget how far out it goes, like if you're in Florida, how far out it goes as like the U.S. seawater until it becomes like ocean water, like international, yeah, it says, I'm sorry, well almost 50 percent of seafloor beneath the U.S. waters has been mapped to these modern standards, the nation's seafloor is larger than the land area of all 50 states, the District of Columbia, and the five territories combined, thus there's still a significant amount of seafloor left to be mapped at a high resolution, which technology is just now improving for them to be able to do this, you know, yeah, so more is known about the seafloor than the species that call the ocean home, seafloor maps can provide information about potential habits, but they can't identify species on seafloor or in the water or provide about how they interact with each other and their environments, scientists estimate there may be between 700,000 and 1 million species in the ocean, mostly animals and excluding most microorganisms, which of which there are millions, roughly two-thirds of these species, possibly more, have yet to be discovered or officially described as almost 2,000 new species accepted by the scientific community each year, isn't that crazy? That is crazy, I have some facts of my own that I can go without reading crazy, give me some trivia facts, and I mean I just picked some, there's so many facts out there, but I will list kind of my top ones that I've picked out, so I did read that the deepest part of the ocean is approximately 36,200 feet deep, that is so, oh my gosh, and in meters that's a little over 11,000 meters, yeah, the ocean can literally crush you to death, yeah, it hits the, what was it called, the titan or whatever it was called, yeah, I think because it showed a picture of a scuba diver, so I think this is especially if you are like scuba diving and you are going in deep, like it can crush you, it can, it's so pressured, the ocean is full of black holes, get out, I don't want to see that, full of black holes, and there are hydrothermal vents known as deep sea vents that can reach up to 700 degrees in Fahrenheit, so it's like volcanoes in there, yeah, you can be boiled to death, so yeah, a little, just imagine when I saw those mini volcanoes, yeah, and it's estimated that there are approximately three million shipwrecks at the bottom of the ocean, I was wondering how many shipwrecks there may be, three million, three million, and it's, it's just crazy because I was just googling also famous shipwrecks, I did a list, a list of a few shipwrecks that were found in 2022, oh just in 20, okay, I didn't get that, there were 16 shipwrecks found in 2022, but only like less than three to show like, it's in varying degrees of what year these ships were sunk and how much they know because of that, so that's really cool, we'll get to that, awesome, there's colossal squids that do exist, aka the kraken, god bless, in 1857 the giant squid was classified as a real living species for the first time thanks to examinations of their brakes, great white sharks, this is a fun one, congregate in mass every year at a remote spot in the pacific ocean known as the white shark cafe, the white shark cafe, that's kind of cute, I mean, I like it, it sounds enticing, yeah, all right, so I guess picture a starbucks for great white sharks, okay, and just one milliliter of ocean water can contain approximately 10 million virus, or not viruses, but, or no, I did put viruses, do you think organisms, or maybe it's organisms, no, I'm going to say 10 million like viruses, okay, that's what I wrote, so remember that when you get water in your mouth, um, oh, that's, I liked those facts, those were great facts, yeah, it's like great, great, the great wash cafe, great shark cafe, and, but they also will make you look at the water twice, I think, well, yeah, yes, I didn't realize, I'm not a big ocean person, I like to go and see it to maybe put my feet in it, but, yeah, you don't go all out, I do not go, like, deep in the swimming, I think the one time I tried to go snorkeling in Hawaii, it was just a disaster, never, never again, no, I like it, the one time I snorkeled was in Florida, and that was a good time, but, you know, we're ruining the planet, so the coral reef was, like, almost non-existent, it makes me sad, I know, it was sad, the closest I think I've ever gotten a coral reef, really, is watching Finding Nemo, yeah, same, to see, like, all the beauty and stuff, but, yeah, it's, it's scary, and so I think our topics are really going to point that to your home, I think, would you like to go first, or would you like me to, sure, I can go, yeah, yours is more scary, mine's more, like, scary, fantasy, and, like, maybe based off some truth, but go ahead, so I will be discussing the Bermuda Triangle, also known as the Devil's Triangle, for real, is, and it's also, this is an urban legend that's focused on a loosely defined region in the western part of the North Atlantic Ocean, where many ships and aircrafts are said to have just disappeared mysteriously, and more than 50 ships and 20 airplanes are said to have mysteriously disappeared. The triangle shape reaches from the Atlantic coast of Florida to Bermuda, to the islands known as the Great Antilles. Reports and unexplained occurrences in the area date back to the mid-19th century, since some ships were even discovered completely abandoned for no apparent reason. Some had transmitted distress signals and were never seen or heard from again. Aircrafts have been reported and then vanished. Rescue missions are said to have vanished when flying in the area, but wreckage has not been found. There are theories of the supernatural, but many believe it to be geophysical, and environmental factors are likely the probable cause. One hypothesis is that pilots failed to account for the agonic line, the place at which there is no need to compensate for the magnetic compass variation as they approached the Bermuda Triangle, resulting in significant navigational error and, of course, catastrophe. Another theory is that the missing vessels were taken down by so-called rogue waves, and these are massive waves that come out of nowhere, right? Yeah, they can come out of nowhere. Yeah, and they have been spotted, or like they've come off of people's, like, their sonar radar for scientists. It's insane. Yeah, they're, and so these are just like massive waves, and they can reach heights up to a hundred feet. Yeah, it's like perfect storm. Well, no, because that's a storm, but like the height of those waves, if I remember that movie. I only saw it once because it terrified me, even though I... Well, and this also makes me think, and have you seen those TikToks of people crossing, um, I forgot what the channel was, but it's like luxury liners and cruise ships can't go through this area. I think it's in, is it Iceland, or? No, but okay. It's in the country, but you see these huge waves just come up, and they like smack against the ship, and they're just like, and people are just in their rooms, like, watching as these waves come up, and I would be a nervous wreck. I would, I would too. No, I would just be, I don't know, I would lose my mind. I would have like a little wife preserve on me, probably sitting on the toilet, because I would be probably shitting myself. I would be a mess. Plus, I would probably have a bottle of vodka. Yeah. And I would be like, oh my god, I would probably just be like, so it's family Robinson. I would be shouting off different things. What's another one? Castaway? No, yeah, go ahead. What's another one? Message in a bottle? Like, I would just be doing all these shits that like, or what's that one? Beside the bridge? Oh, gosh. And I would be like probably shouting it, like in a high-pitched voice. Yeah. And that, like, I would be hysterical. I would be that one crazy person where they have to put him in a life. He would be the only one. Or what do you call it? A straitjacket. And I'm just like, yeah, I cracked. But so, and in theory, this would be powerful enough to destroy a ship, these rogue waves, or even an airplane. And the Bermuda Triangle is located in an area of the Atlantic Ocean where storms from multiple directions can converge in marking rogue waves, very likely. So, this area has different storms can come from different directions, converging to this one massive storm that can take down a ship, and even an airplane is what they're surmising. And according to the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, called the NOAA, there is evidence that mysterious disappearances occur with any greater frequency in the Bermuda Triangle than any other large well-traveled area of the ocean. Let me read that again. Because that was weird when I was reading. So, there is evidence that mysterious disappearances occur with any greater frequency in the Bermuda Triangle than in any other large well-traveled area of the ocean. Okay, just making sure. Yeah, and the Bermuda Triangle was traveled often for like trade purposes. And a lot of warships. So, you have a variety of ships that travel through this area. And boaters and flyers continue to travel through the triangle without event today. But, so, I think maybe before we have all our technology, there was more occurrences. But I do have some kind of theories, other conspiracy theories, if you will, that kind of explain what they think is the probable cause for the Bermuda Triangle. So, here's just some. So, I'm going to just have a quick recap. So, Bermuda Triangle located in the South Atlantic between Florida, Puerto Rico, and Bermuda. So, that would be a great epicenter of shipwrecks and plane crashes. Okay, we got that. And so, our theories behind these could be causes of supernatural weather, all kinds of things. So, here are seven chilling conspiracy theories. Love it. Also list a total. So, there have been 14 men and five torpedo bombers, 31 passengers on a commercial flight, U.S. naval ship carrying 306 men. These are just some of the victims of the so-called Bermuda Triangle. Oh, wow. Let that sink in for a minute and marinate in your brain. Wow, total unplanned. But the first mention of the Bermuda Triangle, also called the Devil's Triangle, was in 1964 when a writer named Vincent Gaddis cataloged the catastrophes that had taken place since the late 1800s in pulp magazine called Argosy. Ten years later, Charles Berlitz released a best-selling book about it named The Bermuda Triangle, which sold more than 14 million copies. Another fun tidbit is that today there are more conspiracy theories about the Bermuda Triangle than there are ships in the sea. And here are some of those popular ones. So, that was just some fun facts. And the first one is Atlantis. Don't spoil too much. I don't think I will. So, Charles Berlitz himself brought forth this idea of the lost city of Atlantis was somehow responsible for the shipwrecks and plane crashes. With his theory, it is argued that technology developed by the Atlanteans, including crystal energies, is still active on the sea floor, causing mechanical malfunctions in the boats and planes above. That just made me think of Aquaman. I know. Like the new 2018 with the Atlanteans. Yes, and their technology was pretty great in that. Then we have rogue waves, which we mentioned before. I think that's probably the answer. I think this is pretty probable because, like I said, these are large, unpredictable swells of water, typically twice as tall as the waves around it. Scientists at the University of Southampton in England claimed that the waters of the Bermuda Triangle were especially ripe for rogue waves due to storms moving from all sides, like we've already discussed. And, of course, there are even being some known to get up to 100 feet in height. So, this could easily explain crashing vessels, but they don't think it can explain plane crashes necessarily. I guess if the plane was flying a little lower than usual, it could totally swipe it down. Gotcha. So, that one, I think it just depends on where the plane is. And then we have magnetic forces. The Bermuda is one of the two places on Earth when a compass will point to true north instead of magnetic north. While true north is the fixed point where lines of longitude converge on the map, magnetic north is constantly shifting. It's the point on Earth's surface where its magnetic field points directly downward. The difference between the two is called declination, and all trained ship and airplane pilots know to account for it when sharping their course. So, the conspiracy theory behind compass malfunctions has been debunked. Yeah. And then, of course, we have UFOs. Yes. Aliens. Aliens. They only care about this part of the ocean. Right. Just this one. So, conspiracy theorists believe the Bermuda Triangle is a portal for UFOs to get to our planet. That way, they can gather technology, research to study the human race. So, this could be just the portal, because we did say there are black holes in the ocean. So, that could be a way for them to travel in and take what they need for research and no trace of human or anything. We have methane bubbles. So, talk about a gas. In 2016, a group of researchers from the Arctic University of Norway discovered massive half-mile craters at the bottom of the Barrett Sea off the coast of Norway. The craters, they theorized, were caused by sudden explosions of deep underwater methane deposits. Many have latched onto the notion that this phenomenon might be responsible for shipwrecks in the Triangle. So, just the ocean farting. Yeah. Wormholes, number six. Another portal to space and time. A pilot by the name of Bruce Guerin stated that, I didn't believe in travel and teleportation until it happened to me. The pilot alleged that a fog surrounded my craft and I leaped ahead 100 miles. Guerin went on to document his experience and put it in fine details, publishing a book in 2017. Water sprouts, the last one. According to NASA, water sprouts are spinning columns of moist air that form over warm water. Think of it as a tornado in the ocean, pretty much. Water sprouts can have wind speeds of 125 miles per hour, since the Atlantic Ocean off the coast of Florida is one of the most active areas in the world. Due to severe weather phenomenon, believed to contribute to disasters that have occurred. So, a lot of weather disasters. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah, that's great. Tell me a tale about Atlantis. Okay. So, I didn't know this until I looked it up, but did you know that Plato created the legend of Atlantis? No, I did not. Yeah. So, why is it still popular, even though it's a 2000 year old tale, quote unquote? Plato told the story of Atlantis around 360 BC. The founders of Atlantis, he said, were, you know, half God and half human. Okay, cool, cool. They created a utopian civilization and became a great naval power. Their home was made up of like a group of islands separated by wide moats and linked by canal that penetrated to the center. The lush islands contain gold, silver, and other precious metals supported by an abundance of rare exotic wildlife, because you want half God, half human and rare wildlife, right? Absolutely. There was a great capital city on the central islands because that's where the capital belongs. There are many theories about where Atlantis was, in the Mediterranean, off the coast of Spain, even under what is now Antarctica. I didn't have a lush land near Antarctica, but whatever. Pick a spot on the map and someone has said that Atlantis was there, basically someone said, every place you can imagine. Plato said Atlantis existed about 9,000 years before his own time, so like 9,000 BC, basically, or 10,000 almost, and that its story has been passed on by poets, priests, and others, but Plato's writing about Atlantis are the only known records of its existence. Few, if any, scientists think Atlantis actually existed. Ocean explorer Robert Ballard, from the National Geographic, which I love, discovered the wreck of the Titanic in 1985, notes that no noble laureates have said that what Plato wrote about Atlantis is true. Still, he says the legend of Atlantis is a logical one, since cataclysmic floods and volcanic explosions have happened throughout history, including one event that has similarities to the story of the destruction of Atlantis. About 3,600 years ago, so it would still be before Plato's time, a massive volcanic eruption devastated the island of Santorini in the Aegean Sea near Greece. At the time, a highly advanced society of Minoans lived on Santorini. The Minoan civilization disappeared suddenly at about the same time as the volcanic eruption. But Ballard doesn't think Santorini was Atlantis, because the time of the eruption on the island doesn't coincide when Plato said it was destroyed. Also, Santorini kind of still exists, it's not like below the sea level, but maybe it was like an island off of it that maybe had submerged. Well, because Venice is sinking, so... Venice is sinking, yeah. So it could... Definitely. Yeah. So, some believe Plato created the story of Atlantis to convey some of his philosophical theories, because he was a philosopher. He was dealing with a number of issues, themes, that run throughout his work, his ideas about divine versus human nature, ideal societies, a utopia, the gradual corruption of human society. These ideas are all found in many of his works, Atlantis was a different vehicle to get some of his favorite themes. The Legend of Atlantis, which I don't know if many people even know about it other than that it's lost, is a story about moral spiritual people who lived in a highly advanced utopian civilization, but they became greedy, petty, and morally bankrupt, and the gods became angry because people had lost their way and turned to immoral pursuits. As punishment, the gods sent one terrible night of fire and earthquakes, but caused Atlantis to sink into the sea. Yeah. So, but I do think if it were anywhere, which who knows, it doesn't tell us how much of you know the area around Europe has been explored in those little areas if there's a little island below with buildings and things like that. You know what, I like to believe it. I mean, it's probable. But I do have, I don't know if you looked any of this up, but I did look up some recently discovered ocean creatures. You know what, just scare me to death, let's do this. No, no, no, I didn't get scary ones. I got funny kind of ones. I didn't get any big ones. Oh, but so it's actually hilarious because as we were doing this, we started watching National Geographic's Welcome to Earth, which is with Will Smith. And with Will Smith, every episode is something different. So one was, the first one was about volcanoes. The third one was about watching the wildebeest like do their famous migration every year in Africa. I can't remember what part. And then the second episode, though, was about him going underwater, like below depth. And he actually went into like a legit submersible and they went 3000 feet below the sea level. And it was so fascinating. I totally forgot about this. But the reason the ocean's so blue is it's like the last line on the ROYGBIV spectrum. So when light leaves us, blue is the last thing that's there. So as Will Smith went into the submarine with a red, red shirt on, and as they were getting close to coming to the end, and there's no light, it looked blue, like a dark blue. Oh, my goodness. So they went down to the bottom. And then there's like this big mountain, not mountain, but like a wall there. So they went around it. And there are some creatures there. And they're most of them were like, none of them had like eyes or anything. Obviously, most of them were like jellyfish kind of looking things. One was kind of bright red. But the lady was saying no one down here sees red. So he this creature looks invisible to everyone else. And then there was a jellyfish that was literally, it was clear, but it has rainbow lights, like sprinkling off of it. And the lady said, that's not what it usually looks like. It's only because we're showing light on it, but that's showing up. Normally, it would just show us clear and no one will see this creature. And then there's this white fucking lizard, where you see where I would have been, but it's been like skins over it, because it doesn't need it anymore. And they say this used to be like a way, way, way distant of what humans could have been or like we branched off of, live on the ocean floor. And they just walk around. And they only need to eat once every 10 years, because they're so slow. It takes them 10 years to like grab a bug or a thing that's down below, because they're really slow moving. But they just walk around and they're able to survive. I'll see eating once every 10 years, and they just walk. And they can't see or anything. I mean, most things down there can't see. But they don't see with eyesight. They like see with sound and things like that. Yeah, it was pretty fascinating. That's interesting. But I'm like, okay, so a little bit more. Scientists have discovered more than 5,000 new species living on the seabed in an untouched area of the Pacific Ocean that has now been identified. This is really recent, the last couple of years, has been identified as a future hotspot for deep sea mining, according to a review of the environmental survey done in the area. It includes 5,578 different species of which an estimated 88 to 92% has never been seen before. So they now have called this unknown biodiversity the Clarion-Clipperton Zone, CCZ. And it spans 1.7 million square miles. And it is between Hawaii and Mexico in the Pacific. So it's this big rectangle almost between Hawaii and Mexico, and that there's this new ocean floor of biodiversity that's completely been untouched. This research will be critical to assessing the risk of extinction of the species, given contracts for deep sea mining in the near pristine area for... Sorry, in the near pristine area. I forgot what I was saying. But anyways, most of the animals identified by researchers exploring this zone are new to science and almost all are unique to the region. Only six, including a carnivorous sponge and a sea cucumber, have been seen elsewhere. Isn't that insane? I'm just picturing SpongeBob. Yeah. Being a cannibal. I like this part. So they said it's an amazing place where despite the extreme cold and dark, life thrives. One of the characteristics of the abysmal plain is the lack of food, but life has a way of preserving... Sorry, persisting down there. It's a mystery, which I think is so fascinating. Well, it's like Jurassic Park. Life finds a way. Yeah. Okay. So here are three new creatures. And these are not all with this new zone that they found of biodiversity. This is just... Every year, there's about 2,000 new species discovered. These are just three that were discovered throughout all the oceans. Okay. So there's something called the vanilla vader woodloose. It's a colossal, creamy, woodloose relative with a vague resemblance. It looks like Darth Vader. I don't know how to describe it. It was discovered deep below the ocean surface in the Gulf of Mexico. This new zone species was caught in a baited cage trap set about 2,000 feet to 2,600 feet below sea level. Researchers initially thought it was a specimen of the closely related... I'm going to butcher this, but the bathynomus gigantus. But DNA analysis later revealed it was a never before seen species. At more than 10 inches long, the creature is 2,500% larger than the closely related terrestrial woodlice, also known as the roly-poly. I'm going to try to Google it. That's what it looks like. Oh my goodness. Yep. Ugh. Yeah, it's not pretty. No, it's not pretty. I was expecting something kind of cute. No, it's not cute like a roly-poly. No. It's hairless and everything. So then we have the translucent jellofish. Not jellyfish, jellofish. N-O-A-A, which we've talked about, researchers were surprised after reeling in a bizarre looking jellyfish as they trawled the seafloor off the coast of the Aleutian Islands, which is in Alaska. So now we're up north. This gelatinous fish is known as a blotched snailfish, had a translucent body covered in ring spots and an unusual suction cup on its belly, which is actually a modified fin that allows it to cling to the seafloor. Yeah, it looks like that one. Blotched snailfish can live in waters up to 2,723 feet below the ocean surface. Their jello-like consistency allows them to withstand the crushing pressure of the deep sea and their translucent bodies help to hide them from predators. However, large parts of their life history remain a mystery to scientists. And the last one, because it's the funniest one, is called the luminous lump of spaghetti. That's like a wig. It does. Bad one. I love that they said, let's call it the luminous lump of spaghetti. We just gave up giving it a name. A bizarre seafloor creature covered with luminous orange spaghetti-like tentacles caused a stir online. Researchers from the Monterey Bay Aquarium Research Institute, MBARI, first spotted the spaghetti worm from the genus Beremis using a remotely operated vehicle in 2012 while they were exploring in the Gulf of California off the coast of Mexico. This pasta-mimicking worm has no eyes or gills and uses its colorful tentacles to catch tiny pieces of organic bitterness, often known as marine snow, that falls to the seafloor. Most spaghetti worms live in burrows or tunnels below the seafloor and only poke their noodle-like tentacles into the water to snatch up bits of food. But this worm spends its life above the ocean bottom and has previously been observed swimming through the water or crawling along the seafloor to find locations where food is plentiful. So, that's just three. I know, so, those were just three. Out of the thousands that are out there. And they are so funky looking ones. Like, they look so, they look alien-like, almost. You know what I mean? Yeah, because, I mean, probably because we're not used to seeing it, but, you know. Probably, and then the ones that live in the dark depths, you know, they are just so translucent, and they're clear, no eyes, and then, what do you call the thing that has this little thing that comes out of its head? A antenna? Yeah, you know what I'm talking about? It has the big teeth, and it tried to kill Nemo. Oh, yeah, I don't know. I'm not really good with, uh, well, that's not a creature. Yeah, that's the one I was, like, we're going to have something like that, but. Well, that's something cuter. No, but I can tell you about some shipwrecks. Please, do go on. All right, so, only, I don't know about only, because I'm pretty sure these people are exploring, 16 shipwrecks were discovered in 2002, and a couple have already been found in 2003, but this is showing, like, the range of what they find and how much they know. So, they found the English warship Blockbuster found off the coast of Norfolk, England. It sunk May 6, 1682, and the cause was called a ran aground, and I looked that up, and it means that they didn't know that the sea level are, um, it's shallower than they thought, so the ship probably ran into, like, a big rock or a part of the ocean that, um, I guess was very shallow, and it basically caused the ship to crash, or sink, excuse me, crash and sink, and so it was carrying James Stewart, the future king of England, so that kind of changed history. Oh, yeah, that did, for sure. Then you have the Barkantine Endurance. It was found in the wet old sea in Antarctica. It sunk in 1915, and the cause of sinking, crushed by ice. And then last, which I thought was so fascinating, a Norwegian ship was found in Lake, I don't know, Mejoso in Norway, and they say it was sunk sometime between the 14th and the mid-19th century. They had no idea, so I guess there's, their ships didn't really change too much in those, like, five centuries. They're, they can only say it's sunk between this time, which is 500 years stand, and of course the cause of the sinking is unknown, so I can only imagine, like, what's left of that, but the fact that they knew it was Norwegian, and all, isn't that insane? That's, that's really, or maybe they just assumed it was because it's found off Norway, but it probably had some kind of writing, or things like that, you know, some wood, yeah, um, but the most exciting one, which I don't know if it was discovered, it was discovered this year or last year, I can't remember, um, but I found it very interesting. So, a preserved sunken ship was found in Shipwreck Alley after 230 years. I'll get to Shipwreck Alley in a minute. Um, well, it's in Lake Huron, which I forget those lakes are so big. I'm used to lakes not being big. These lakes are huge. So, um, the cold freshwater lake in Lake Huron, freshwater in Lake Huron, kept the sunken ship Ironton, oops, intact for over a century, because it's freshwater, I forget that, so then, like, saltwater kind of, like, deteriorates a little more, a little faster, so the, um, kept it intact for over a century, including all three of its masts, and a lifeboat that took five lives, but also brought the ship's destruction. So, since this is a little, ah, so since this is a little bit, um, more recent, they know a little bit more about it. Sorry, Wendy is wanting to have a conversation about this. Um, the Ironton sank in September of 1894 after colliding with a steamer ship named the Ohio. The sunken ship had been missing for around 120 years, with only rumors of its location. So, see, even they knew where it was in the lake, and they didn't find it until 120 years later. Recently, researchers from the state of Michigan, um, the Ocean Exploration Trust and NOAA, discovered the ship in what is known as Shipwreck Alley. Hundreds of feet below the water surface, the Ironton is one of the historical shipwrecks that the sanctuary protects. The ship itself is 191 feet long, 772 tons, and can carry around 1,250 tons of coal. Crazy. The vessel, the Ironton, was in transport for 22 years before the night of the wreck. On September 26, 1984, the steamer that was pulling the then Ironton suddenly had a failed engine. To avoid colliding with the disabled steamer, the Ironton cut the towline, but Lake Huron's winds, or windblown seas, led the ship straight toward the Ohio, another ship, causing a head-on collision. So, the Ironton sank as it drifted out of sight. Nearby sailors rescued the 16 crew members of the Ohio who escaped on lifeboats. The lifeboat on the Ironton did little saving. As the Ironton sank, all seven crew members climbed aboard the lifeboat, but it was still tethered to the vessel as it went down. Only two crew members survived, clinging to a sailor's bag and a box before passing and steamer could rescue them. In their discovery of the Ironton, researchers found the lifeboat still attached to the vessel. Crazy, right? It's very crazy. All right, so what is Shipwreck Alley, you ask? A really cool bar? It probably is, but this, it's called Thunder Bay, this little area of Lake Huron, got its name Shipwreck Alley, A-L-L-E-Y, because of the nasty storms that were common in the area. 12 ships sank from one single storm in 1930, 1913, excuse me, which claimed 248 lives. One fucking storm just wiped out 12 ships and about 250 people. And because of the congestion of the trade ships, ships used the canal to transport goods such as wheat, coal, corn, lumber, and iron ore. And since it came to a toad point, many ships converged within a small area. Today, the Thunder Bay National Marine Sanctuary protects nearly 100 of these historic shipwrecks in Lake Huron, giving insights to the commercial shipping industry that lasted 200 years. So, I guess it's named for a really good reason, right? Oh my god, that's insane. I know. Well, I have one shipwreck, I mean, I just like touched on it, it's not a very long story or anything, but it's really, but there is something really cool about it. Yeah. So, I have the Mary Rose, and it was an English warship commissioned during Henry VIII's reign that often served as the flagship of the fleet, and it served for wars that they, it served for 33 years in several wars against France, Scotland, and Brittany, and it was built in 1536, or wait, it was rebuilt in 1536, but it was built in Portsmouth, England between 1509 and 1511. It sunk in 1545, and the wreck was raised in 1982, and it was later put on display. And I have here that it was put on, it's at the, actually you can see it at the Portsmouth Historic Dockyard, just five minutes from Portsmouth Harbor, and accessible by train and bus, but here are some images of it. I'm going to show you. That's Craigley, where they had it up and on display, and you could see it, and I mean, it's huge, and a good portion of it is actually still intact, so you can have an idea of how they built the warships, and yeah, how many people it could carry, and so forth, so it's really, I just thought that was really cool, because they got that story, yeah, and Mary Rose, I thought that was really pretty, but I almost did more of a modern, I guess, warship, but I'll tell you the one I was going to do, because it's actually in one of the film recommendations I have, which is Jaws, the USS Indianapolis, I remember the one where our sea captain talks about his experiences in the USS Indianapolis when it crashed. I haven't seen Jaws in forever. It's on Peacock, and it's just a movie I always go back to, 1975, to me it's a classic, Spielberg, that was one of the early films, and it's just, it's really good, it will make you afraid of the water, yep, but another really cool thing, so when I visited Martha's Vineyard, that's the one, they actually filmed some of it there for Amity Island, and they had this thing called the Jaws Bridge, where they filmed part of it, but where I got my Jaws t-shirt, the owner of that t-shirt shop was actually a kid, and used an extra in that film, so that was a really cool tidbit, but that's the recommendation I have, just because you have the ocean, you have essentially, I think Jaws was supposed to be, like it was a great white, but I think he was kind of supposed to be a megalodon, he's supposed to be something scary, I know that for sure, and just a big ass shark, but no, that's a great one, I also have the Meg on here, which talks about megalodons, huge, we've mentioned it before when we talked about, because I think they have had sightings where they believe that there are megalodons, Aquaman, the big of Atlantis, Atlanteans, both in your story and my story, 2018, if you just want to see a nice hero film, and you have a thing for Jason Momoa, I like to call him Jason Mimosa, but there's that one, Atlantis, the Disney film, I've actually never watched it, but I was like, it's been years, I need to re-watch it, and I want to, because I feel like that's a Disney film, and one of the ones, I feel like you're going to enjoy that, I think I would be really into it, you know, about the lost empire, technology, goes in that whole gamut, and 1899 is actually a mini-series on Netflix, I've heard of it, but I haven't finished it, I think it's only one season, I don't think they got renewed for a second, but I don't know for sure, or I wonder if it's one of those series where they have the beginning, middle, and end, and it's all done in 8 episodes, but I can give you a brief summary over it, it's from 2022 on Netflix, and it's a multinational immigrants traveling from the old continent to the new, encounter a nightmarish riddle aboard a ship adrift on the open sea, so I think this one has to do with the Bermuda Triangle, oh, I like it, I think that's what it hints at, I could be wrong, but still a great ship, lost kind of thing, we got that whole vibe to us, and I also have the Goonies on here, nice, 1985 classic, that was kind of wrecked, kind of not, but a great film, so these are all my film recommendations that I kind of was jotting down, so do you have anything to add, other than Atlantis, well, really, I really do like the Walks into Earth on National Geographic, which you can get if you have Disney+, it's really, I mean, I know it's just one episode, but we haven't finished it, we've only seen the first three episodes, I think there's six, but I just love watching all that stuff, but the second episode, the deep sea, and it's very fascinating, because I can't describe to you what they see down there, it's just so cool though, and Will Smith, as I would be too, was extremely terrified to go down, but they did well, or he did well, and then, other than that, no, the only thing that came to mind, which I don't even think I've seen before, and I think it only involves the beaches, beaches, that Miller's good friend, yeah, yeah, that's the truth, is, oh, The Perfect Storm, oh, The Perfect Storm, that goes into our Rogue Ways, it like, I watched it in probably middle or high school, and it was really good, but it like, terrified me, I was like, that is, I mean, so horrible, the waters are so terrifying, even if you're watching The Deadliest Catch, like, my dad used to watch that show all the time, oh, I used to watch it back in high school, yeah, I liked Deadliest Catch as a good one, because you would see the crazy weather they go through, they go through it, and you're just like, oh my god, how are you, I don't know how you do it, yeah, and I would look for another employment, yeah, I know it pays well, but I don't know, I don't know how I feel about it though, you're like, uh, my nerves can't take this, I can't, I can't, again, I would be like, Gilligan's Island, let's go, I would just be like, uh, yeah, just a bundle of nerves, like nerves, so, yeah, yeah, I'm done talking about the ocean, you're just like, we're on a landlocked state, we're not in a landlocked state, there's a river right there, I don't count that, just don't look at it, we're not near a beach, we're not near a beach, that's, you know, that's one thing we have in our favor, yeah, well, this was great, that was a good one, I enjoyed it, yeah, makes me want to go home and watch National Geographic again, which I'll probably do later, makes me just want to eat Swedish fish and drink my ocean water, just sit there and watching movies, and that's what I want to do with the life, it really is, it is, well, thank you all so much for listening to 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